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  • #21240
    Anonymous
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    This autumn, the webif schedule view seems to be showing an extra week of summer time – it doesn’t show GMT events until next weekend (31st/1st).

    The on screen schedule looks ok and the device recorded programs on Sunday correctly so maybe it is just cosmetic, but next weekend’s events are a bit confused.

    For example, Roadkill E02 (on series record) recorded ok last night, but episode 3 hasn’t been automatically set yet.

    Can anyone who has Foxsat HDR and CF confirm if their webif schedule is showing BST or GMT for events next week.

    Thank you

    Dino

    #99573
    grahamlthompson
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    dino – 2 hours ago  » 

    This autumn, the webif schedule view seems to be showing an extra week of summer time – it doesn’t show GMT events until next weekend (31st/1st).

    The on screen schedule looks ok and the device recorded programs on Sunday correctly so maybe it is just cosmetic, but next weekend’s events are a bit confused.

    For example, Roadkill E02 (on series record) recorded ok last night, but episode 3 hasn’t been automatically set yet.

    Can anyone who has Foxsat HDR and CF confirm if their webif schedule is showing BST or GMT for events next week.

    Thank you

    Dino

    Do you have nowsters patch installed ?

    #99574
    Anonymous
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    Good morning,

    Yes – I have the fourth version of settop-patch. This is the release which corrected the UTC related problem with version 3 which came to light on a daylight saving changeover a few years ok.

    The symptom I'm seeing isn't the same as what happened then though it could well be related. The attached screenshot might illustrate.

    Before next Sunday, the 'next start time column' shows the correct start time but calls it BST rather than GMT. The 'next event' column shows the start time as if we hadn't already switched from BST. From next Sunday onwards everything is properly GMT aligned.

    It is as if the webif thinks that BST switchover is next weekend.

    I'm just wondering if what I'm seeing on my webif schedule is present on other machines. If other people aren't seeing it then that will change my approach.

    Thanks for your help.

    Dino

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    #99575
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    I will boot my Foxsat and have a look.

    Looks like you are spot on

    Check the SCD reservation on Saturday and the other on Sunday. I am going to add a manual one with lots of padding for the saturday.

    [attachment=81111,1487]

    #99576
    Anonymous
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    Thank you. If you are seeing what I’m seeing then I guess it is a system problem rather than finger/brain trouble at my end.

    Recording over the weekend just gone seemed ok – apart from the one series record not propagating to the coming weekend but that could be a CRID thing anyway.

    As far as I can tell, my recording schedule for next week is all good when shown on the TV so possibly it is a cosmetic thing with the webif view.

    I don’t envy the writers of any software that has to deal with real time clock information when the time we use can be arbitrarily changed.

    #99577
    Anonymous
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    The problem could be due to a bug in one of the libraries used by the WebIf. The same problem applies to the custom firmware on the HDR Fox T2.

    I’m not sure if I should post a link across to another forum but have a look on ‘hummy.tv’ at a post with the title ‘EPG still showing summer time’.

    EPG entry times for this week have a BST flag but the ones for Sunday onwards have a GMT flag. This ties in to the explanation of the fault in the C library.

    #99578
    Anonymous
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    TimK2011 – Quite possible – my Guess is the logic for last Sunday in month has a minor error which fails if the last day of month is a Saturday.

    #99579
    aldaweb
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    I’m guessing the library defaults to USA’s DST which ends next weekend instead of UK’s BST which ended over last weekend.

    #99580
    Anonymous
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    As I read it, this bug arises in a leap year in which the daylight saving change over occurs in a month with five Saturdays.

    Next of those is due in March 2040 so strap in.

    The consensus is that the webif views of the EPG and the Schedule will be out of sorts in various ways until Sunday 1st November when it will self correct. In the meantime back to using the TV and the remote control for setting.

    Thanks to all for the links and comments.

    #99581
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    dino – 1 hour ago  » 

    As I read it, this bug arises in a leap year in which the daylight saving change over occurs in a month with five Saturdays.

    Next of those is due in March 2040 so strap in.

    The consensus is that the webif views of the EPG and the Schedule will be out of sorts in various ways until Sunday 1st November when it will self correct. In the meantime back to using the TV and the remote control for setting.

    Thanks to all for the links and comments.

    Already 75 and 76 in November. Do not expect a response 😮

    #99582
    Anonymous
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    My Foxsat HDR is only used a few times a week for recordings, and not been used since Saturday (just before the time change).

    When I switched it on today (Thursday), CH4HD which I had put into freesat via the custom firmware, had been removed and I had to put it back again.

    However, the time was correct!

    #99583
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    paulburke – 13 mins ago  » 

    My Foxsat HDR is only used a few times a week for recordings, and not been used since Saturday (just before the time change).

    When I switched it on today (Thursday), CH4HD which I had put into freesat via the custom firmware, had been removed and I had to put it back again.

    However, the time was correct!

    Did you have Nowsters patch installed ?

    If the box is on a at 03:00 we already know the schedule file that get created during housekeeping gets overwritten so you lose channel 4-HD.

    #99584
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Paul,

    Out of interest, when you say the time was correct, where are you checking this ?

    Dino

    #99585
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    dino – 4 hours ago  » 

    Paul,

    Out of interest, when you say the time was correct, where are you checking this ?

    Dino

    The epg shows the correct time and minute. Trouble is the epg does not say its BST.

    If paul sets a single recording test schedule on Saturday and another on sunday and then displays the recording schedule (see my screen grab above).

    He will see the saturday recording will say BST and the Sunday one GMT.

    If

    #99586
    Anonymous
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    grahamlthompson – 16 hours ago  » 

    paulburke – 13 mins ago  » 

    My Foxsat HDR is only used a few times a week for recordings, and not been used since Saturday (just before the time change).

    When I switched it on today (Thursday), CH4HD which I had put into freesat via the custom firmware, had been removed and I had to put it back again.

    However, the time was correct!

    Did you have Nowsters patch installed ?

    If the box is on a at 03:00 we already know the schedule file that get created during housekeeping gets overwritten so you lose channel 4-HD.

    Nowsters patch is installed.

    Box always in stand-by, unless recording or play back. So never on at housekeeping time.

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