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July 13, 2017 at 6:33 am #19134
Anonymous
InactiveGood morning. I wonder if anyone can help. Last night a number of the channels on HDR 1100s were lost to “the receiver is not receiving a signal or the signal is too weak”. It’s happened to Channel 4, 5 and most of the ITV +1 channels and probably others too. I’ve checked signal strength, it’s good and I’ve tried to retune, I think, through the freesat channels box in Your Settings. All this to no avail. Nothing has changed to the set up of TV etc and the weather is good and dish is still attached to the house. Any suggestions welcome. Thank you.
July 13, 2017 at 6:47 am #79600Anonymous
InactiveWhat signal quality is shown when tuned to these channels?
Please post details of channels including the region you receive.
July 13, 2017 at 7:02 am #79601Anonymous
InactiveHello, it shows No Signal. (I didn’t realise I had to tune to the channel then check signal strength, doh). The channels I can’t get are BBC2 (SD), BBC4, Channel4, 5, ITV HD, ITV +1, ITV2+1, ITV3+1, ITV Be, etc. The region we pick up is BBC SW, we’re in North Cornwall.
July 13, 2017 at 8:36 am #79602grahamlthompson
ParticipantGuessing the lnb has failed. How accessible is the dish ? Can you get any of the BBC SD regions and the HD nation channels ?
950 BBC 1 London
951 BBC 1 CI
952 BBC 1 E Mids
953 BBC 1 East (E)
954 BBC 1 East (W)
955 BBC 1 N West
956 BBC 1 NE & C
957 BBC 1 NI
958 BBC 1 Oxford
959 BBC 1 S East
960 BBC 1 Scotland
961 BBC 1 South
962 BBC 1 S West
963 BBC 1 W Mids
964 BBC 1 Wales
965 BBC 1 West
966 BBC 1 Yorks
967 BBC 1 EYrks&L
968 BBC 2 England
969 BBC 2 NI
970 BBC 2 Scotland
971 BBC 2 Wales
972 BBC ONE HD (England)
973 BBC 1 Scot HD
The channels you list use the following transponders
108 BBC 2 England 10773 H
110 BBC FOUR 10773 H
111 ITV HD 11097 V
112 ITV+1 10891 H
114 ITV2+1 10891 H
116 ITV3+1 10906 V
118 ITVBe 10758 V
Logically you will have lost all the channels using the above transponders.
10773 H
108 BBC Two Eng
110 BBC Four
608 Cbeebies
950 BBC One Lon
951 BBC One CI
954 BBC One East W
965 BBC One West
968 BBC Two Eng
981 BBC RB 1
11097 V
111 ITV HD 11097 V
10891 H
112 ITV +1
114 ITV2+1
119 ITVBe+1
10906 V
115 ITV3
116 ITV3+1
731 talkSPORT
10758 V
113 ITV2
117 ITV4
118 ITVBe
155 ITV4+1
602 CITV
July 13, 2017 at 9:35 am #79603Anonymous
InactiveHowdy, the guide just shows BBC One, it doesn’t show the region names, but 962 did play alright. The dish is on the side of a single storey part, so not difficult to reach. Lnbs don’t seem to be expensive, so we’ll give that a go. The dish has been up for quite some time. They can’t be tricky to replace, can they? I’ll let you know how I get on.
July 13, 2017 at 10:42 am #79604grahamlthompson
ParticipantHilda63 – 1 hour ago »
Howdy, the guide just shows BBC One, it doesn’t show the region names, but 962 did play alright. The dish is on the side of a single storey part, so not difficult to reach. Lnbs don’t seem to be expensive, so we’ll give that a go. The dish has been up for quite some time. They can’t be tricky to replace, can they? I’ll let you know how I get on.
Did you have channels 950-973 ? They should be there unless you deleted them. As the dish is old make sure you buy a lnb with a legacy adaptor.
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Check your coax cables for any sign of water ingress. If wet replace with WF100/PF100 sat grade coax and use silicone grease on the connections.
July 13, 2017 at 4:41 pm #79605Anonymous
InactiveA busy day here or I would have been back earlier.
Can I add one point, remember to note the shew (twist) on the LNB before you dismount it. Set the new one to the same skew.
July 13, 2017 at 4:59 pm #79606Anonymous
InactiveYes, those channels, 950-973, are there. I’ll give things the once over while I’m up the ladder and I’ll remember to check the shew. I just have to wait for the lnb to be delivered. It’s quite exciting really, isn’t it. Thanks everyone. I’ll report back.
July 13, 2017 at 5:03 pm #79607Anonymous
InactiveI meant skew.
July 18, 2017 at 11:26 am #79608Anonymous
InactiveWell, I tried to replace the lnb but things turned ugly pretty quickly. To cut a long story short we now have a brand new dish and all’s well again. Hooray. Thanks for all your help.TTFN
August 15, 2017 at 1:59 pm #79609Anonymous
InactiveHello. I’m new to this forum and hope that you will be able to help me.
I chose this thread because it seems to describe – more or less – my problem.
I have an HDR1000 connected by splitter to a single LNB outlet. The other end of the splitter connects to my Freesat enabled TV.
The TV works perfectly well, but the Humax tells me that the signal is too weak.
When connect the Humax directly, then it works perfectly.
Is there a solution? I really need both to work since this is my only means of watching one channel whilst recording another.
Thanks for your attention.
August 15, 2017 at 2:47 pm #79610Anonymous
InactiveAjm600 – 35 minutes ago »
Hello. I’m new to this forum and hope that you will be able to help me.
I chose this thread because it seems to describe – more or less – my problem.
I have an HDR1000 connected by splitter to a single LNB outlet. The other end of the splitter connects to my Freesat enabled TV.
The TV works perfectly well, but the Humax tells me that the signal is too weak.
When connect the Humax directly, then it works perfectly.
Is there a solution? I really need both to work since this is my only means of watching one channel whilst recording another.
Thanks for your attention.
Hello, and welcome to the forum.
Since both your TV and the HDR1000 show good signals from your single output LNB when connected individually, that would seem to point towards your “splitter” being the culprit.
What type of splitter is it? You cannot use a regular UHF splitter on LNB feeds. Only one device can control the LNB ie high band, low band, vertical or horizontal polarisation switching at any given time.
August 15, 2017 at 3:49 pm #79611Anonymous
InactiveIs it not possible to change the LNB and run another two cables?
It is not normally difficult to do yourself, and inexpensive.
August 15, 2017 at 4:42 pm #79612grahamlthompson
ParticipantThe HDR1000S is much more capable than the TV as it can use two tuners on a single cable.
https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/what-can-i-record-and-watch-using-1-or-2-cables
If you can’t change the lnb for a quad (4 output) one, best to connect the single cable to the HDR1000S.
Basically only one output of the splitter allows the satellite tuner to control the lnb, if you switch the splitter outputs to connect the HDR1000S to the one now used by the TV, hopefully it will work in single cable mode. Depending on the channel(s) being used by the HDR1000S the TV Tuner will have about 50% of the channels (see the above link) when it’s on or in recording sby.
More info on how a LNB works is here, this explains why you can’t just split a satellite feed as you can with a terrestrial aerial.
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