Upgrading the Storage Drive

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  • #12204
    grahamlthompson
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    While browsing in Aldi noticed a 1TB usb3 storage drive reduced by £20.00 to £60.00. Although you could probably make your own a bit cheaper the neat black enclosure looks good by the side of FOX T2. Duly purchased same.

    First job was to connect the existing drive to my laptop to look at the file structure. I used LinuxReader to examine the drive.

    A very simple single partition structure is revealed. Just two folders and a single file in the root of the drive

    Folders .tsr and Video (presumably the .tsr contains the time shift buffer file – mental note to investigate further :-))

    Single file epgsavedata.

    I copied the contents of the Video folder to a temporary folder on a ntfs drive on my laptop.

    Connected the new drive to the FOX T2 and elected to format it (the original FS was FAT32). Big mistake – 5hrs later still indicating writing to drive. Powered everything off and connected the drive to my PC – still a FAT32 FS.

    Did what I should have done in the first place, booted up EASUS Partition Manager (the free version) elected to delete the partition and format EXT3 (takes about 10 – 15 minutes to complete).

    Connected the now EXT3 usb drive to the FOX-T2 and elected to format. About 5 minutes later format completed and elected to use the drive as the recording device.

    At this stage the VIDEO folder does not exist, fixed by making a 1 minute instant recording.

    Transfered the drive back to the PC and mounted the drive read/write using EXT2FS and copied the contents of the archived VIDEO folder back to the usb drive VIDEO folder.

    Success all my original recordings intact.

    Hope this helps anyone contemplating fitting a larger archive drive

    #26893
    Barry
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    Just tried 2 different brand new 1TB HDD and both formatted in next to no time, sorry did not time it exactly, but under 3 minutes for Desktop versions of.

    WD Elements

    Seagate GoFlex

    Straight out of box, and connected to HD T2.

    #26894
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    Could it be related to the fact that the drive is USB3 and in an enclosure. It’s not a raw drive.

    The original 320GB drive also formatted in a few minutes. That was using a drop in cradle connected by usb.

    #26895
    Barry
    Moderator

    These are off the shelf external Desktop HDD’s, but are USB2.

    #26896
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    The drive comes with a cable that is supposed to be usb2 and usb3 compatible. The plug at the drive end is a type that I have not seen before. It worked fine with the PC, and it was this cable I first used for the original reformat. I finally connected the drive to the FOX T2 using a standard cable (the socket accepts the standard usb plug) after reformatting and there were then no problems. Was it the cable swap or the reformat solved the problem ? Was it the fact that it was a large drive preformatted FAT32. Any ideas what file system the drives you used had or were they not used at all.

    #26897
    Barry
    Moderator

    Unfortunately I connected straight to the HD T2, but according to the spec sheets both would have been NTFS, and both were recognised as soon as plugged in.

    #26898
    raydon
    Participant

    Anyone tried 2 drives connected via USB hub yet ?

    #26899
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    Not got a powered hub yet. I will have a dabble with an unpowered one though. :-)

    #26900
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    It works :-) at least for two drives.

    Second drive appears in media list. Recording takes place on the assigned drive. You can view recorded content from the second drive during recording. Pretty impressive :-)

    #26901
    raydon
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    That’s good to know. How do you assign the drive to record to ? And can you copy from one USB drive to the other ? If so, does SD get decrypted when copied ?

    #26902
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    Assigning the drive to record to is a menu option, and you can only assign a drive formatted by the box. As far as I can tell like the Foxsat-hdr you can only have the media contents of a single usb drive displayed at any one time, so there’s no way of copying the contents across. There’s no file manager as such just an option like the Foxsat-hdr media list. Incidentally in my case because the second drive was previously used as the recording drive and both had the default drive name, both have the same name. Pressing record though records to the correct drive. Going out in a bit, I will have a further play tommorow.

    It will be interesting to see what the tsr folder has in it after a watch reservation before the box is next booted.

    Maybe it’s possible to access the buffer file externally, a mere trifle to a man of your capabilities :-)

    It does though mean you can the use the media replay capability while the box is recording.

    #26903
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    Tried setting a reminder, I imagine that’s the same as the watch option on the foxsat. Other than the drive activity light you can’t tell the box is recording. I was not around during the reminder time but pretty sure the box does not fully boot. In any case after the allocated reminder I connected the drive to a PC. The tsr folder is empty, although linux reader says there are no recoverable files.

    Without some sort of file server capability it’s going to be hard to see what’s going on.

    One idea may be is to simulate a power cut while viewing to see if this leaves a file in the tsr folder.

    Any other ideas anyone ? :-)

    #26904
    raydon
    Participant

    You could try the modded firmware for the T2. This will give you telnet and FTP access amongst the many other optional packages available.

    http://hummy.tv/forum/threads/customised-hdf-file-released.232/

    #26905
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    raydon – 1 week ago  » 

    That’s good to know. How do you assign the drive to record to ? And can you copy from one USB drive to the other ? If so, does SD get decrypted when copied ?

    Thanks to Barry, you can in fact copy from one drive to the other, option+ on a recording gives you access to the other drive on the hub. This lets you move a file on the same drive or copy it to the other. SD is not decrypted after copying though.

    #26906
    raydon
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    Thanks for that info Graham. I suspected that the copy option would not decrypt SD recordings, but it’s good to have it confirmed.

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