Series link quirk.

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  • #16129
    Anonymous
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    One quirk I’ve never been able to understand or get to the bottom of with the 1000s is the series link anomaly.

    If I go into the planner prior to a programme starting and press the red button I am given the option of recording an entire series. However, if the programme has already started that option disappears. You then have to set a reminder to set the recording again for the following week when it’s available on the EPG.

    Why is that? I have two Panasonic recorders and it matters not whether the programme has started or not. Simply go into the planner, highlight the programme in question, press the red button and you are immediately given the option of single or series record.

    #56187
    Anonymous
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    I agree it’s a quirk and it has been there since day 1. I raised it in the Freesat forum when it was active and they simply confirmed that that was the way it worked.

    #56188
    Anonymous
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    I think it was the same on the Foxsat.

    #56189
    grahamlthompson
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    REPASSAC – 14 minutes ago  » 

    I think it was the same on the Foxsat.

    Yes same on Foxsat and also HDR FOX T2/HD FOX T2. Pretty sure it’s the same on The 9150, 9200 and 9300 older boxes as well and the newer variants on the HDR FOX T2 boxes.

    Not a clue about the Youview boxes.

    #56190
    Anonymous
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    grahamlthompson – 7 minutes ago  » 

    REPASSAC – 14 minutes ago  » 

    I think it was the same on the Foxsat.

    Yes same on Foxsat and also HDR FOX T2/HD FOX T2. Pretty sure it’s the same on The 9150, 9200 and 9300 older boxes as well and the newer variants on the HDR FOX T2 boxes.

    Not a clue about the Youview boxes.

    Looks like we can blame Humax for this peculiarity then !

    It does seem odd that once a programme has started it can’t be series linked, leaving the user to find the next programme in the EPG to set a recording.

    I presume Crid codes don’t fly away on Humax boxes once the programme has started ?

    #56191
    Anonymous
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    Does this quirk perhaps vary from channel to channel? I’ve just tried it on BBC 2 HD and had no difficulty setting a series link for Peaky Blinders, Mock the Week, and Panorama (none of which I normally record)

    #56192
    grahamlthompson
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    JamesB – 1 minute ago  » 

    Does this quirk perhaps vary from channel to channel? I’ve just tried it on BBC 2 HD and had no difficulty setting a series link for Peaky Blinders, Mock the Week, and Panorama (none of which I normally record)

    It only applies to a programme that has already started. Only way to record it is a one off from the recording time shift buffer and of course to get it all the box has to be tuned to the channel when the programme started. To set a series recording you have to go the next showing in the series.

    #56193
    Anonymous
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    grahamlthompson – 1 minute ago  » 

    JamesB – 1 minute ago  » 

    Does this quirk perhaps vary from channel to channel? I’ve just tried it on BBC 2 HD and had no difficulty setting a series link for Peaky Blinders, Mock the Week, and Panorama (none of which I normally record)

    It only applies to a programme that has already started. Only way to record it is a one off from the recording buffer and of course to get it all the box has to be tuned to the channel when the programme started. To set a series recording you have to go the next showing in the series.

    I see. Thanks, Graham. Never happened to encounter this.

    #56194
    Anonymous
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    If we assume that the required series link information is still embedded in the pgm EPG entry after it starts I reckon it would be a fairly simple programming effort to bridge between recording an already started pgm and setting up the series record. After all the second part of the action, setting up the series record, is already coded. It would however require that the recording from the buffer started in the background to avoid a delay while the user responded to the series link pop-up question. Altogether not impossible unless there is some show-stopper not thought of.

    #56195
    Anonymous
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    Well as said in my original post, both my Panasonic DVDR and the HW120 PVR can manage it with no issues at all. I can’t therefore understand why Humax cannot manage it too.

    #56196
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    Faust – 59 minutes ago  » 

    Well as said in my original post, both my Panasonic DVDR and the HW120 PVR can manage it with no issues at all. I can’t therefore understand why Humax cannot manage it too.

    Perhaps they can but decided they wanted their boxes to work in the manner they do, maybe they don’t consider it a quirk, I don’t. The chances are if I’m pressing record after a programme has started it’s because I want to record that programme, not the series. If I wanted the whole series I would have been more organised and set the series link earlier. Graham was right in his post #4, the 9xx0 boxes also work in the manner you describe. On my Panasonic DVD/VCR machine I can’t edit the channel list like I can on the Humax so I’m stuck with all the crap channels. Is that a quirk of the Panasonic machine or the way they wanted their machine to work. You can’t please all of the people all of the time.

    #56197
    Anonymous
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    Biggles – 10 hours ago  » …The chances are if I’m pressing record after a programme has started it’s because I want to record that programme, not the series. If I wanted the whole series I would have been more organised and set the series link earlier…

    The rest of us who are not quite as organised, and are watching a pgm they were previously unaware of and realise it’s the first of a series, we regard it as a quirk. Happens to me all the time, silly disorganised me. :D

    #56198
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    Biggles – 10 hours ago » …The chances are if I’m pressing record after a programme has started it’s because I want to record that programme, not the series. If I wanted the whole series I would have been more organised and set the series link earlier…

    That may well have applied when we only had a small number of channels. However, with the advent of multi-channel digital TV it’s nigh impossible to keep track of TV listings. I often channel hop and come across something of interest whereby I then want to record the whole series.

    I too obviously have a disorganised mind.

    #56199
    grahamlthompson
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    Faust – 51 minutes ago  » 

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    Biggles – 10 hours ago » …The chances are if I’m pressing record after a programme has started it’s because I want to record that programme, not the series. If I wanted the whole series I would have been more organised and set the series link earlier…

    That may well have applied when we only had a small number of channels. However, with the advent of multi-channel digital TV it’s nigh impossible to keep track of TV listings. I often channel hop and come across something of interest whereby I then want to record the whole series.

    I too obviously have a disorganised mind.

    You must be so disorganised that you don’t realise that you can record whatever content you have in your recording buffer and in a few steps set up the a series recording by simply skipping forward to the next full episode ( Which may well be a single keypress away).

    Frankly I don’t think I have ever seen such a pathetic argument.

    Humax boxes have worked this way for years. You appear to be in a small minority. Indeed as already posted most (including our most experienced members didn’t even know the problem existed).

    So we have a situation that appears to really annoy you, despite

    1 There’s a simple way to set up the series recording anyway

    2 It clearly isn’t an issue for thousands of Humax box owners for many years.

    So you expect Humax to modify the code for all it’s current recorders to accommodate you (and possibly a few others), to avoid you having to push a remote control button the number of times to skip to the next showing.

    So when you channel hop what do you do when you find an interesting series that is now showing episode 5 of 6 ? (Disorganised or what ?).

    Showcase is designed to help channel hoppers, not sure how much info you need.

    Either you are looking for any way to have a go at Humax, patently ridiculous in this case, or you do not have any sense of what’s reasonable.

    So yes your last statement seems to be accurate :-)

    #56200
    Anonymous
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    grahamlthompson – 1 hour ago  » 

    Faust – 51 minutes ago  » 

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    Biggles – 10 hours ago » …The chances are if I’m pressing record after a programme has started it’s because I want to record that programme, not the series. If I wanted the whole series I would have been more organised and set the series link earlier…

    That may well have applied when we only had a small number of channels. However, with the advent of multi-channel digital TV it’s nigh impossible to keep track of TV listings. I often channel hop and come across something of interest whereby I then want to record the whole series.

    I too obviously have a disorganised mind.

    You must be so disorganised that you don’t realise that you can record whatever content you have in your recording buffer and in a few steps set up the a series recording by simply skipping forward to the next full episode ( Which may well be a single keypress away).

    Frankly I don’t think I have ever seen such a pathetic argument.

    Humax boxes have worked this way for years. You appear to be in a small minority. Indeed as already posted most (including our most experienced members didn’t even know the problem existed).

    So we have a situation that appears to really annoy you, despite

    1 There’s a simple way to set up the series recording anyway

    2 It clearly isn’t an issue for thousands of Humax box owners for many years.

    So you expect Humax to modify the code for all it’s current recorders to accommodate you (and possibly a few others), to avoid you having to push a remote control button the number of times to skip to the next showing.

    So when you channel hop what do you do when you find an interesting series that is now showing episode 5 of 6 ? (Disorganised or what ?).

    Showcase is designed to help channel hoppers, not sure how much info you need.

    Either you are looking for any way to have a go at Humax, patently ridiculous in this case, or you do not have any sense of what’s reasonable.

    So yes your last statement seems to be accurate :-)

    Thanks for you usual elegant and tolerant response Graham.

    1. I would obviously not set a series record if the programme in question was for example episode 3 of 6 because I have never heard of or used iPlayer etc. which would enable me to catch up. 😳

    2. Again as said by you (so it must be correct) that I can simply jump forward in the planner to the next episode and set it from there. Or there again as has happened twice recently the next episodes have not been in the planner due to football being on the following week? 😯

    3. Even though other manufacturers can manage this feat of technology whilst Humax can’t/don’t include it in their boxes this isn’t an issue as they have been doing it this way for years. Obviously you subscribe to the school of “we have always done it this way, why do we need to do it differently”?

    Still as you say Graham it must be me so thanks for putting me right. 😳

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