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Is it feasible to replace the HDD in the HDR 2000T with an equivalent SSD ? The HDD in my unit is quite noisy (despite being quite new), so I wondered if an SSD could be fitted, given that modern drives have long lives.
Does the OS reside on the HDD, or is this booted from elsewhere ?
The OS is in NVRAM as is the recording schedule so no issue there. I would though be a bit wary of using a SSD because of the constant writing and re-writing of the time shift buffer file. The 2TB Seagate pipeline I have in my HDR-1000S is very very quiet.
Noise from the hdd in the 2000 is a common problem reported on myhumax. Reported as not from the disk itself but the mounting. Search the forum. As stated, unless you buy something like a Samsung PRO disk ( expensive! ) You may encounter lifetime write issues.
grahamlthompson – 13 minutes ago »
I would though be a bit wary of using a SSD because of the constant writing and re-writing of the time shift buffer file.
That is incorrect; the controller on the SSD will spread the wear across the drive. A Samsung Evo SSD is rated at 40GB a day for a least 3 years and a Samsung Pro will do 40GB a day for 5 years.
It sounds like an intermittent clunking noise even when the HDD shouldn’t be doing anything.
Martin Liddle – 30 minutes ago »
grahamlthompson – 13 minutes ago »
I would though be a bit wary of using a SSD because of the constant writing and re-writing of the time shift buffer file.
That is incorrect; the controller on the SSD will spread the wear across the drive. A Samsung Evo SSD is rated at 40GB a day for a least 3 years and a Samsung Pro will do 40GB a day for 5 years.
How does that work when the file in question is a fixed size one constantly being overwritten. I can see it not being an issue when you write a file and the next time you overwrite it completely. The file is re-written from the start every time you change channel but the content beyond the point you have got to is still there as you can see if you copy the timeshift file from a Foxsat-HDR.
grahamlthompson – 1 hour ago »
How does that work when the file in question is a fixed size one constantly being overwritten.
The file system thinks it is writing to the same block but at a lower level the controller keeps a map between the physical blocks and the logical blocks seen by the file system. Potentially each time the logical block is written to, the controller chooses a different physical block. Also most modern controllers will periodically move static data around to ensure the number of writes per block is roughly the same.
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You are not the only one complaining about the 2000T noise.
It can be improved by damping the hard drive and lid but it takes a bit of work and will void the warranty.
I have lessened the noise with dampers under the drive and damping the lid mounts….essentially the casing amplified the noise and I have never heard a drive with such noisy heads which seem to return to rest regularly
Its a question of what its worth spending on it. Another sata drive should improve matters. I just havent got round to that yet because why should I be spending out on something that should have been quiet in the first place.
Minstrel SE – 12 hours ago »
Its a question of what its worth spending on it. Another sata drive should improve matters. I just havent got round to that yet because why should I be spending out on something that should have been quiet in the first place.
Yes, I had the HDD on my iMac replaced with a 500GB SSD from Crucial last year, and that cost around £130 including the 2.5-3.5″ adapter, which is almost as much as a new PVR.
cs2017 – 1 day ago »
It sounds like an intermittent clunking noise even when the HDD shouldn’t be doing anything.
That’s quite normal for a HDD. The problem you have is that the 2000T was built down to a price point i.e. penny pinching. It’s basically a tin box with zero soundproofing. I have a 2000T myself, but I also have one of its siblings, the BT Youview box. This is less than half it’s size, has a plastic case and uses a 2.5″ HDD not a 3.5″ and is as quiet as the grave.
It would be an interesting exercise to fit a 2.5″ HDD in a 2000T to see the results. I suspect that too would then be much quieter.
Faust – 12 hours ago »
cs2017 – 1 day ago »
It sounds like an intermittent clunking noise even when the HDD shouldn’t be doing anything.
That’s quite normal for a HDD. The problem you have is that the 2000T was built down to a price point i.e. penny pinching. It’s basically a tin box with zero soundproofing. I have a 2000T myself, but I also have one of its siblings, the BT Youview box. This is less than half it’s size, has a plastic case and uses a 2.5″ HDD not a 3.5″ and is as quiet as the grave.
It would be an interesting exercise to fit a 2.5″ HDD in a 2000T to see the results. I suspect that too would then be much quieter.
That’s interesting.
Can the BT box be used without subscribing to BT ?
cs2017 – 1 day ago »
Minstrel SE – 12 hours ago »
Its a question of what its worth spending on it. Another sata drive should improve matters. I just havent got round to that yet because why should I be spending out on something that should have been quiet in the first place.
Yes, I had the HDD on my iMac replaced with a 500GB SSD from Crucial last year, and that cost around £130 including the 2.5-3.5″ adapter, which is almost as much as a new PVR.
Exactly! Everybody goes oh just pop another drive in but the only cheap ones are used from a dodgy trade shop and I could be jumping out of the frying pan into the fire.
I will probably do it one day…a 2.5″ drive(if they do the job) is tempting as it should be much quieter or perhaps a 3.5″ 2GB if it will accept that storage.
I have lessened the noise so its acceptable for now. It was a shock though as Ive never heard a hard drive based product so unacceptably noisy
cs2017 – 4 hours ago »
Faust – 12 hours ago »
cs2017 – 1 day ago »
It sounds like an intermittent clunking noise even when the HDD shouldn’t be doing anything.
That’s quite normal for a HDD. The problem you have is that the 2000T was built down to a price point i.e. penny pinching. It’s basically a tin box with zero soundproofing. I have a 2000T myself, but I also have one of its siblings, the BT Youview box. This is less than half it’s size, has a plastic case and uses a 2.5″ HDD not a 3.5″ and is as quiet as the grave.
It would be an interesting exercise to fit a 2.5″ HDD in a 2000T to see the results. I suspect that too would then be much quieter.
That’s interesting.
Can the BT box be used without subscribing to BT ?
Absolutely, you will find them in Argos among other retailers.
Minstrel SE – 2 hours ago »
cs2017 – 1 day ago »
Minstrel SE – 12 hours ago »
Its a question of what its worth spending on it. Another sata drive should improve matters. I just havent got round to that yet because why should I be spending out on something that should have been quiet in the first place.
Yes, I had the HDD on my iMac replaced with a 500GB SSD from Crucial last year, and that cost around £130 including the 2.5-3.5″ adapter, which is almost as much as a new PVR.
Exactly! Everybody goes oh just pop another drive in but the only cheap ones are used from a dodgy trade shop and I could be jumping out of the frying pan into the fire.
I will probably do it one day…a 2.5″ drive(if they do the job) is tempting as it should be much quieter or perhaps a 3.5″ 2GB if it will accept that storage.
I have lessened the noise so its acceptable for now. It was a shock though as Ive never heard a hard drive based product so unacceptably noisy
I think all you would need is a 3.5″ to 2.5″ HDD adapter. They are very cheap and lots of places stock them. I can’t see why a 2.5″ drive wouldn’t work. You would simply need the type that Humax uses in the BT Youview box.
cs2017 – 3 years ago »
Is it feasible to replace the HDD in the HDR 2000T with an equivalent SSD ? The HDD in my unit is quite noisy (despite being quite new), so I wondered if an SSD could be fitted, given that modern drives have long lives.
Does the OS reside on the HDD, or is this booted from elsewhere ?
I have just replaced the original disk with a 2TB solid state disk. I had to convert the disk from GUID Partition Table (GPT) to Master Boot Record (MBR). Please note that MBR has a 2TB size limit. I formatted the disk to NTFS. My 2000T recognised the disk when powered on and asked me to use the menu to re-format the disk. This only took a few seconds. The free disk space is a little below 2TB, as expected. There is a case for avoiding solid state disks but more recent SS disks are likely to have an excellent lifespan even in this heavy duty disk writing environment, perhaps better than mechanical disks which always wear out in the end. And it’s totally silent and runs cooler than the old disk. The disk was a snug fit under the original mounting frame. That blocks a few air holes but it runs cooler so I doubt if this will be a problem. I’m expecting a faster response time loading the list of recorded programmes.
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