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Have to say the Recordings / Schedule displays are not all that bad although I would much prefer a straight list (at least the schedule now shows the time they are due to start recording without having to press Info).
Two biggest steps backward in functionality for me are
1) Unable to position the playbar directly or by using the cursor right / left buttons. This one is huge as it has taken me nearly 10 minutes to FF to the end of this morning’s WSB coverage!
2) Info of a recording or timer no longer shows the episode number which can make it tricky to work out if you have already watched an episode or not (Black Sails is a series were I was a few weeks behind and having to mix watching on catch-up and recordings).
“Have to say the Recordings / Schedule displays are not all that bad.”
Pleased you’ve got it gomezz, but are you joking?
Not at all. I call it as I see it. The title truncation does not seems to too much of an issue for me perhaps because I am the only user and do not have that many recordings (only from BBC1, BT Sport / Eurosport and the occasional other BT TV programme). I also am in the habit of deleting the previous episode of a programme the day before the next episode is due to record so do not have loads of series folders to get lost in.
Thanks for that detailed reply. I now understand why you like it so much.
Sadly users with series stacks (and lots of ’em) are quite rightly complaining.
I would not go as far as to say that I like it. Far from it. Tolerable is the word I would use. I would rather they put effort into restoring playbar functionality though before adding an option for displaying recordings / timers as a list.
The timebar ‘jump to’ feature is the one I miss too. This has been fed back and will be addressed in a future release, along with a few other features.
Of course, if they fixed the Skip to random point while chase-playing an active recording of an internet channel then that would remove the most frequent and important need for being able to move the playpoint quickly.
“Of course, if they fixed the Skip to random point while chase-playing…”
Sorry, I don’t know what you mean by this.
You start watching a recording before it has finished. This is called chase-playing. If you are then skipping or fast-forwarding over ads or boring bits then you get closer and closer to the live point, maybe catching it up. This is why I tend to start watching a footy match recording 15 minutes after kick-off so I can skip over the half-time puerile punditry and go straight to watching the second half live.
The problem is that with a recording from an internet channel such as BT Sport 1 that when you press Skip instead of moving you one minute on it can throw you back to much earlier in the recording. This is the long-standing bug that it is about time they bloody well fixed.
“This is the long-standing bug that it is about time they bloody well fixed.”
I agree. I believe it happens if ones gets to or within 30 mins of the live chase play being recorded. Poor.
Visionman – 4 hours ago »
“Of course, if they fixed the Skip to random point while chase-playing…”
Sorry, I don’t know what you mean by this.
On a decent PVR while viewing a recording, you can have direct time code entry by simply tapping in a time on the remote eg 011525 will jump instantly to 1H 15 mins and 25 secs into the recording (hhmmss). Add to this the ability to store multiple labelled bookmarks for instant access.
Just an another example of the dumbed down Youview UI.
Neither of these have any relevance to DRM, basically just laziness or incompetence to add genuinelly useful capability to any pvr.
Forgive me for asking but it seems you don’t really have much experience of using many pvr’s other than the Youview ones.
That is the thing. Before the “upgrade” you *could* enter the time to jump to on a Youview box although I usually used the right/left keys to just move the playpoint along to where I wanted to resume. Neither of those are possible with NewGen.
gomezz – 4 hours ago »
You start watching a recording before it has finished. This is called chase-playing. If you are then skipping or fast-forwarding over ads or boring bits then you get closer and closer to the live point, maybe catching it up. This is why I tend to start watching a footy match recording 15 minutes after kick-off so I can skip over the half-time puerile punditry and go straight to watching the second half live.
The problem is that with a recording from an internet channel such as BT Sport 1 that when you press Skip instead of moving you one minute on it can throw you back to much earlier in the recording. This is the long-standing bug that it is about time they bloody well fixed.
Well let’s be honest it would be a lot better if you could set the skip feature in increments larger than one minute. I much prefer the Freesat incremental jumps where the maximum is just about the length of an add break.
Another minus (when our box finally gets the update, cough cough) is that we do tend to record series of programmes so I really like ‘list view’. I don’t fancy scrolling through a load of thumbnails in order to find the programme we want. Same goes for deleting after watching as I believe this too is not very functional.
You do have to wonder why Youview request beta testers if they then fail to act on the feedback. I’m sure lot’s of beta testers (if other forum posts are anything to go by) fed back issues and bugs with the update and yet they appear to have been ignored.
grahamlthompson
On a decent PVR while viewing a recording, you can have direct time code entry by simply tapping in a time on the remote eg 011525 will jump instantly to 1H 15 mins and 25 secs into the recording (hhmmss). Add to this the ability to store multiple labelled bookmarks for instant access.
Just an another example of the dumbed down Youview UI.
Neither of these have any relevance to DRM, basically just laziness or incompetence to add genuinelly useful capability to any pvr.
Forgive me for asking but it seems you don’t really have much experience of using many pvr’s other than the Youview ones.
Are those options available on the 1000s/ 2000T Graham? I know they currently are on the outgoing UI in Youview.
grahamlthompson – 1 hour ago »
Visionman – 4 hours ago »
“Of course, if they fixed the Skip to random point while chase-playing…”
Sorry, I don’t know what you mean by this.
On a decent PVR while viewing a recording, you can have direct time code entry by simply tapping in a time on the remote eg 011525 will jump instantly to 1H 15 mins and 25 secs into the recording (hhmmss).
I’m well aware of that, Graham but that wasn’t my question. I was querying the ‘random point’ reference, which gomezz has kindly now clarified. This Behavior was also prevalent on BT Vision boxes too.
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