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  • #14104
    Anonymous
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    Hello all.

    With Christmas approaching the PVR needs to be backed up, but having just hooked up my Samsung External 1TB drive I have noticed that simply using Windows Explorer to “move” the content to the USB drive (which is connected directly to the PVR) I am getting a transfer rated reportedly around 780kbs which I thought was pretty lame.

    I have custom firmware version 4.09 (Raydon latest)

    Are there quicker ways? (without physically dismantling the PVR and cloning the disk)

    Apologies if this exists in other topics.

    Thanks!

    #40943
    Anonymous
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    Quickest way I’ve found to move data off the HDR is to use the network, not USB.

    FTP or Samba direct to a workstation. You’ll need to preserve the directory structure if you transfer back or use the rename trick to ensure the HDR will acknowledge the recordings exist.

    Using FTP and 100Mbit/s LAN you could expect around 45Mbit/s HDR to workstation. It’s generally slower when pushing data back in my experience.

    #40944
    Anonymous
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    Thanks Dino

    Whats the rename trick? I noticed there are essentially a number of files associated to the actual programme recording but I am new to this custom firmware business!

    Alan

    #40945
    grahamlthompson
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    alanm – 21 minutes ago  » 

    Thanks Dino

    Whats the rename trick? I noticed there are essentially a number of files associated to the actual programme recording but I am new to this custom firmware business!

    Alan

    The foxsat uses 4 files, .ts (the one with the video in) and two sidecar support files (.hmt and .nts) the other one .thm contains the graphics for the chapter thumbnails.

    The .hmt contains a filepath to the .ts file. If you move the 3 main files without using the box the .hmt has the wrong filepath.

    If however you select rename on the Foxsat (no need to change the name) the box corrects this for you.

    #40946
    Anonymous
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    Alan,

    Just to add a bit more information to what Graham supplied, when copying program files back in order to watch them, you may not put them in exactly the directory they were originally made in. In this state, the HDR will not display the program in the media view as the location information in the .hmt is invalid.

    The rename trick sorts this out. Using the web interface, click ‘browse media files’ and navigate to the directory then, click on the OPT+ button and select ‘rename’, then ‘update’. This will rewrite the .hmt file and the program will now appear to be watched on TV.

    I thought it was worth mentioning – if you are used to using the USB method I don’t think the problem arises. The HDR is less fussy about the .hmt file being right when displaying the media on the USB.

    Clearly when files are on it’s own internal disk the HDR expects them to be correctly set up. Not an issue until the custom firmware allowed us to transfer files like this, but the rename fixes it.

    You need to keep the .ts .hmt and .nts files as a set. The associated .programname_datetime directory with the .tac files is optional. These are the thumbnails.

    Dino

    #40947
    Anonymous
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    Thanks, I will give this a go when I reload.

    FYI, I am using a linksys ADSL router and cabled on both sides.. using Filezilla and getting about 4Mb/s which is better than 800kbps which was yesterdays effort.

    Thanks for your tips!

    alan

    #40948
    Anonymous
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    A rate of ~4MBytes/sec reported by Filezilla (not Mbits/s) sounds about right for a 100Mbit LAN.

    You may get a bit more by making the HDR do as little as possible. It has to be on obviously, but if it’s not recording anything explicitly (I don’t know a way to stop the 0.nts file being recorded) and tuned to either a radio channel or a station just displaying an ident like BBC4 during the day it seems to go a bit quicker.

    Only makes a slight difference, but if you are copying a lot of data off, every little helps.

    #40949
    Anonymous
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    All very helpful and informative….

    One problem for me though is that I moved 70 episodes of Peppa Pig (for my son) into a folder and as they are not recognised I was hoping there was a quick fix to get the Humax to recognise them again rather than using the Humax controller and rename feature.. any pointers on this?

    Thanks again

    #40950
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Renaming takes 5 seconds per program.

    I know of nothing quicker.

    #40951
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Ok, so renaming takes 5 seconds, is this using the controller? Can I do this via my computer where the keyboard is easier to use? If I can use my computer, which file should I rename?

    Thanks

    #40952
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    alanm – 2 minutes ago  » 

    Ok, so renaming takes 5 seconds, is this using the controller? Can I do this via my computer where the keyboard is easier to use? If I can use my computer, which file should I rename?

    Thanks

    Afaik you don’t have to actually change the name, just invoke the option. this will correct the incorrect file path in the .hmt file.

    #40953
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Not sure what you mean by the controller. The quick renaming is done from the Web GUI.

    Use your PC/MAC web browser

    1 Browse the IP address or name of your Foxsat HDR

    2 Click ‘Browse Media Files’

    3 Click the folder that contains the Peppa Pig programmes

    4 Click the ‘opt+’ icon against the first file in the list

    5 Click ‘rename’ from the menu that appears

    6 Click ‘update’ on the window that opens*

    7 Repeat from ‘4’ on the next file in the list until done.

    *If you’ve 70 files to rename, the only difficulty would be keeping track of which ones you’ve done. Maybe just put an ‘x’ in front of the file name before clicking ‘update’ at step 6 leaving the EPG Title alone. That will move the renamed files to the bottom of the list.

    When finished, using the normal TV and HDR control check all the files are now visible in the Peppa Pig folder on the HDR using the media button on the remote.

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