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  • #17618
    Anonymous
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    I have recently bought a new FVT 4000T but one particular problem I have is that when the machine is set to record a program and starts recording, the light is red but I am unable to switch on, i.e. to blue,4000 in order to watch another program. The helpline has so far not been of much assistance apart from saying that the ‘CEC’ needs to be turned off, whatever that means. Unless I can resolve this problem I shall have to return the recorder as faulty. Any help would be appreciated.

    Regards, Karl.

    #68238
    Barry
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    Welcome to our Forum :-)

    CEC – Consumer electronics control

    Will be a setting on your TV, known under different names depending on manufacturer..eg

    Panasonic- Viera link

    Sony – Bravia link, or sync

    Samsung – Anynet+

    If I have not mentioned your make of TV then reply with manufacturer.

    Edit see other threads with same issue:

    https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/unable-to-turn-fvp-4000t-on-intermittently

    https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/failure-to-turn-on-when-timer-recording

    #68239
    Anonymous
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    Barry can you add Hitachi to that list in case i come across this problem in the future. Cheers

    #68240
    grahamlthompson
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    Davygogs – 2 minutes ago  » 

    Barry can you add Hitachi to that list in case i come across this problem in the future. Cheers

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#CEC

    Trade names for CEC are Anynet+ (Samsung), Aquos Link (Sharp), BRAVIA Link and BRAVIA Sync (Sony), HDMI-CEC (Hitachi), E-link (AOC), Kuro Link (Pioneer), INlink (Insignia), CE-Link and Regza Link (Toshiba), RIHD (Remote Interactive over HDMI) (Onkyo), RuncoLink (Runco International), SimpLink (LG), T-Link (ITT), HDAVI Control, EZ-Sync, VIERA Link (Panasonic), EasyLink (Philips), and NetCommand for HDMI (Mitsubishi)

    #68241
    Anonymous
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    Much appreciated.

    #68242
    Anonymous
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    The solution is either:

    1 Remove the HDMI cable completely, and connect the Humax RCA terminals to the composite input on your TV (3 cables), and have a poor quality picture; or

    2 Use HDMI, but disable any HDMI Sitch on/switch off capability on your TV.

    It seems that the HDMI control signals from some brands of TV confuse the PVR-4000T. Humax expects to release a software update soon to fix it.

    Not surprisingly I think this is the best post to describe the problem :-) FVP-4000T will not “activate” with remote control – the poster is obvioulsy intelligent, articulate and, I expect, handsome too.

    #68243
    Anonymous
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    JohnH77

    the poster is obvioulsy intelligent, articulate and, I expect, handsome too.

    You forgot to mention – delusional. 🙄

    #68244
    Anonymous
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    You cheeky b*gger!

    #68245
    grahamlthompson
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    JohnH77 – 13 hours ago  » 

    The solution is either:

    1 Remove the HDMI cable completely, and connect the Humax RCA terminals to the composite input on your TV (3 cables), and have a poor quality picture; or

    2 Use HDMI, but disable any HDMI Sitch on/switch off capability on your TV.

    It seems that the HDMI control signals from some brands of TV confuse the PVR-4000T. Humax expects to release a software update soon to fix it.

    Not surprisingly I think this is the best post to describe the problem :-) FVP-4000T will not “activate” with remote control – the poster is obvioulsy intelligent, articulate and, I expect, handsome too.

    CEC control is seriously flawed in most cases. The auto port selection is not the issue. The problem is that the system is designed to switch off the TV when the connected device is turned off and vice versa. There are many cases where this not what you want. Simple example is where you have a seperate audio system and want to listen to the radio channels. If you turn off your TV your box goes off 👿

    There is a simple adaptor that will disable cec control capability on a HDMI cable so you can disable it on specific inputs.

    It’s because of the lack of control over the cec options provided by TV makers that this adaptor is made. On more expensive kit you can disable CEC power control and retain auto port selection. My high end Panasonic TV has this capability.

    #68246
    Anonymous
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    grahamlthompson – 2 minutes ago  » 

    CEC control is seriously flawed in most cases. The auto port selection is not the issue. The problem is that the system is designed to switch off the TV when the connected device is turned off and vice versa. There are many cases where this not what you want.

    Hear hear.

    #68247
    Anonymous
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    Something is not working properly.

    Is it the TV is wrong? In other words, give the Humax a TV which works properly, and the Humax will work properly.

    Or is the Humax is wrong? In other words, even if I give it a TV which is working properly, the Humax still has the problem?

    Or will the software update be designed to cope with badly designed TVs by, for example, ignoring the ON/OFF signals sent from the TV via HDMI?

    #68248
    Anonymous
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    JohnH77 – 9 minutes ago  » 

    Something is not working properly.

    Is it the TV is wrong? In other words, give the Humax a TV which works properly, and the Humax will work properly.

    Or is the Humax is wrong? In other words, even if I give it a TV which is working properly, the Humax still has the problem?

    Or will the software update be designed to cope with badly designed TVs by, for example, ignoring the ON/OFF signals sent from the TV via HDMI?

    Now if only there was a standard…

    #68249
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Not necessarily a TV CEC problem. My 8 year old Sony LCD does not have any CEC capability and I have this issue regularly. Would have hoped for a firmware update by now.

    #68250
    Anonymous
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    gorses – 5 minutes ago  » 

    Not necessarily a TV CEC problem. My 8 year old Sony LCD does not have any CEC capability and I have this issue regularly. Would have hoped for a firmware update by now.

    Agreed, the fact that the HDMI-CEC implementations are problematic does not rule out a Humax bug.

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