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HDD was getting full so was playing around with archiving to a USB drive. During that process I have inadvertantly pressed the yes button for delete for the folder which happened to feature another set of programmes we want to keep.Obviously the box started deleting the entire folder. Thinking if this was a pc switching off at the mains would do the job. Switched back on and yes the folder was there with most of the programmes still intact.
However, the box then carried on deleting the programmes in the folder! Switched off again, left for 1/2 hour, switched on again but still deleting!
So the big question is – how do I stop it deleting more. Currently I have the box switched off at the mains again.
I have posted this elsewhere so forgive me if you see this twice. Off to bed now as been at this one quite a while. I suppose one option is to take HDD out and copy files and put them back after?
On looking though the pages here, if anyone knows the answer, this is the place.Any other thoughts?
Thanks in anticipation
If the recordings are valuable then the safest way is indeed to take the HDD out and connnect to a PC, then copy them and put them back later.
If you are running the custom firmware then you could try telnetting into the box as soon as it boots, delete the file /mnt/hd1/delete.info and reboot. That should stop it too. The reason is as follows:
1. When deleting a recording via on-screen display, the HDR creates a file /mnt/hd1/delete.info containing the paths to the ts/hmt/nts files to be deleted. When the recording deletion is complete then delete.info is removed.
2. If /mnt/hd1/delete.info exists when the HDR starts up, it checks for existence of the files contained in delete.info. If these exist then they are removed and then delete.info is also removed.
See here for more background:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/freesat/1550052-foxsat-hdr-deleting-its-own-files.html
Many thanks for the quick response. I have the standard firmware installed. On that basis would going for a firmware update (standard or other (I have had this on the todo list for quite a while)) also effectively remove the delete file?
I haven’t got the Humax hooked up yet to the internet.
Thanks
No it would not.
Took the HDD out connected up to the PC, Using easeus partition master I was going to copy the files to another HDD. However, the software allows me to look at the files Drive has atotal of 270Gb, some other stuff featured in folders on the HDD takes up ~100gb of the 279gb. However the folder of the file that I inadvertantly deleted is there but shows nothing in it (all the others do) but the difference of 270 minus 100 equates to those files not shown in the ’empty’folder. Thought I’d run some recovery software (Easeus again) and that shows the missing files but with no size (not sure if thats what should be on Easeus data recovery).
In summary it looks as if the files are there but I can’t seem to get to copy them. I could just clone the HDD then I have the lot to give me time to sort it later!
This thread might give you some clues about data recovery from a Foxsat-hdd.
Thanks for the link which looks useful. I had a problem back in December with my camera and the memory card when it went wrong. Tried several pieces of recovery software at that time – typically they worked in varying success levels and can’t quite remember which was best only that some were better than others. So it will be try them all again and see how succesful they are. I’ll let you know how I get on. Pressures off now – had to own up to my wife I’d trashed some of her programe files!
johnscotty – 10 hours ago »
I had a problem back in December with my camera and the memory card when it went wrong. Tried several pieces of recovery software at that time – typically they worked in varying success levels and can’t quite remember which was best only that some were better than others.
I would guess they are intended for Windows file systems and will be of no help with the Humax. No harm in trying though.
I was heavily into the software mode last night and got some software that was quite good at the initial stage (Haven’t dared yet to press anything that features go/yes!). ET2 explore as an example lists the ‘deleted’ file folder but doesn’t feature anything inside (all the other folders reveal all).
Another software (recovery) however, lets me see all that is/was there – looks promising at this stage (but haven’t read quite whats what with it). It has current folders files with green ticks, others with red crosses and green ticks others with red crosses (must read the help files, but I get the drift since some of the red crosses look to be the already deleted files whilst the to be deleted files in the folder are still there with finite file sizes (red crosses are zero file sizes).
However, in another section is the heading ‘delete folder’ – double click and it tells me everything I did at the delete stage ‘plug in usb stick, remove usb etc’.
I figure this is the one I need to delete,since it contains the /mnt/hd1/delete (more or less that name)that Partidge 2 commented on but on the windows PC haven’t yet found anything else to read that this file is there and that the ‘to be deleted folder’ contains as yet undeleted files. So I am thinking of transfering the lot to another drive (have a new one but awaiting resolution on some warranty issues). Then I need to be able to access that file from my windowsXP PC to delete it. As yet, all manner of ‘EXt2 ‘file manager software won’t appear to let me do that.
I’m away from tomorrow for a few days so time to regroup!
Cheers
Here’s an interesting thought, while the drive is on a PC it ought to be possible to set up the custom firmware directly to the HDD so the next time you boot it’s already installed. Interesting to hear the experts on the projects comments
It would be possible to copy another install quite simply – but for a new one the install scripts do directly make changes to the hard disk and assume that they are in a Linux system with the Foxsat device mount points etc.
grahamlthompson – 12 hours ago »
while the drive is on a PC it ought to be possible to set up the custom firmware directly to the HDD so the next time you boot it’s already installed.
Hi Graham, I agree that the various packages for the custom firmware, web-interface etc. could be copied to the HDD while connected to a PC.
But the custom firmware also changes a couple of important files in the core linux operating system which is in flash memory on the Foxsat HDR and so not on the hard drive. One of these is the startup script which instructs the HDR to look on the hard drive for custom firmware packages – without this the packages can be on the hard drive but are never started when the machine is booted.
When new firmware is flashed onto the HDR with a USB stick it is primarily to overwrite the linux operating system in flash memory with the custom version.
A copy from another install would leave you in the same state as if you have preiously flashed and installed the firmware but it had just been overwritten by an OTA.
i.e. all the software would be there but the boot process does not contain the trigger to start the custom scripts.
Nothing is every simple with computers (and the software in particular). But actually it turned out sort of easy once I knew how (famous last words).
Started back with the Humax HDD on the pc, installed Ext2fsd but all I got were the various partitions with the volume size – no file details at all. Thats when I moved on the recovery software with R-Linux. But didn’t get round to doing recover. That sofware gave me the files and the delete file I needed to delete. But as recovery software it wouldn’t let me do that. Then went on to Diskinternals, Linux reader. Again this featured all and sundry but the delete option wouldn’t work – that option was protected. It gave me options for permission but then on the changes it said no. Went to Knoppix as that seemed to suggest all manner of options in its linux boot. Got there, yes I could read all the files but again delete was not in the repertoir.
More reading and picked up a hint that the original EXt2fsd actually worked within windows explorer and not its own window. A few clicks on its dedicated menu and it seemed to give some activation options. One featured control panel so thought I’d tick enable and restart. On restart, opened explorer and all files were revealed including the delete folder I had been after. Pressed delete and all was gone (I did back it up just in case). HDD back in the Humax, fired it up (well the other HDD I had put in was running rather hot (fried eggs anyone! – must check the fan is working). And that’s it – the box booted without deleting any further files and there is still 77 of the programs there (yes I lost a few (and I might go back to see if I can reciover some with the other software but thats for the weekend)).
Thanks for your help and comments.
Cheers
John
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