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June 1, 2017 at 11:50 am #19056
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InactiveI have my Humax connected to both HDMI and AV outputs. Problem I have is that if I just turn it on and watch on an AV connected TV (I’m using an RF modulator to pipe it around) I get a message displayed that it cannot display due to an HDMI license(?) issue.
If I then just switch on the TV connected to the HDMI it clears the message and then turning off the HDMI connected TV still leaves it displaying fine.
Any way around this issue?
June 1, 2017 at 12:34 pm #79088grahamlthompson
ParticipantCan’t believe it’s a licence issue. There’s no issue with a HDR-FOX-T2 doing this (Suspect 1800 and 2000T will work OK). Sounds like sloppy programming that disables the AV output when the HDMI output fails to handshake with it’s connected TV even though it’s off. Possible workaround is connect the 4000T via a auto hdmi switch with remote control or push button switch to disconnect the 4000T so it can’t detect a TV is connected.
I take it that if you disconnect the HDMI cable it will work using the rf link without issue (If it didn’t the AV outputs would be useless) ?
June 1, 2017 at 1:05 pm #79089Barry
ModeratorNo idea if it will help….have you tried enabling the SD output setting in General Settings, Video menu.
June 1, 2017 at 5:59 pm #79090Anonymous
InactiveI’ve got my 4000t plugged into the tv by hdmi via a three way hdmi splitter and into my dvd recorder by the av cables with the sd setting off in the video menu in general settings, works fine.
GH
June 1, 2017 at 6:15 pm #79091grahamlthompson
Participantthegenegenie – 8 minutes ago »
I’ve got my 4000t plugged into the tv by hdmi via a three way hdmi splitter and into my dvd recorder by the av cables with the sd setting off in the video menu in general settings, works fine.
GH
A splitter is a different animal to a switch. A splitter has one input and multiple outputs allowing you to send the same output to multiple displays. Due to the HDCP handshake the quality is reduced to the lowest quality that the handshake identifies. A switch allows several inputs to be selected individually onto one output, typically to allow more kit to be connected to a limited number of HDMI inputs on a TV. A Matrix switch allows multiple inputs to be selected to multiple outputs.
For instance a 4 in 2 out switch would allow any of 4 inputs to be sent to two TV’s independently. TV one and two could watch any one of the 4 inputs at the same time. Advanced AV receivers often have built in matrix switches and two or more HDMI outputs.
If you really have a switch that tends to confirm that my suggested solution may well work for the OP.
June 1, 2017 at 8:47 pm #79092Anonymous
InactiveYes, it’s three inputs one output, so, a switch rather than a splitter then?
GH
June 1, 2017 at 9:17 pm #79093grahamlthompson
Participantthegenegenie – 18 minutes ago »
Yes, it’s three inputs one output, so, a switch rather than a splitter then?
GH
Indeed

If all outputs are connected to displays with the same capability (1080p50 if your box is set to output 1080p50 (upscaled from 1080p25 source on Freeview-HD) you will have no issues. If one display doesn’t support 1080p50, output will be 1080i at 50 fields/second (25fps).
Having said that assuming all TV’s have decent de-interlacing, doubtful you would notice any difference.
June 2, 2017 at 9:09 am #79094Anonymous
InactiveThanks for the replies. I have an HDMI switch so I’ll try connecting through that for the HDMI and see if that fixes the problem.
June 2, 2017 at 1:41 pm #79095Anonymous
InactiveTried the switch and still the same problem! Once the TV is switched on and then off again the AV works fine.
June 2, 2017 at 1:43 pm #79096grahamlthompson
Participantlencuff – 57 seconds ago »
Tried the switch and still the same problem! Once the TV is switched on and then off again the AV works fine.
What happens if you change the switch to connect something else to the TV ?
June 4, 2017 at 7:29 pm #79097Anonymous
InactiveThanks!! Moved the switch from the Humax to a DVD connected to it and now no message!! So even though the TV and the DVD are both switched off, the Humax is now happy – very odd?
June 4, 2017 at 8:49 pm #79098grahamlthompson
ParticipantNot that odd, The Humax now does not have to satisfy the HDCP handshake confirming it’s not connected to a HDMI recording device, because it is not.

Happy it solved the problem.
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