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I came to watch Eat Well for Less this evening which should have started recording on my 2000T and noticed no red recording dot in the EPG.
When I click the recording schedule I could have dropped – my entire schedule was empty. This unannounced schedule trashing drives me to distraction and really Humax this is 2016 is this the best your software engineers can manage.
Your equipment really should be able to deal with software/EPG updates without wiping the customers schedules.
Does anyone know what the issue is this time i.e. software from Humax or a Freeview transmitter update? We get our signal from Sutton Coldfield.
Application version : UKTFAC 1.01.16
– Loader version : UKTFAC 1.04
– System id : 80BC.7E10
– Update Date : 12 AUG 2015
– Micom version : 12.4
One of the related threads
https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/argghhh-2000t-has-retuned-itself
And another
Ditto here today – extremely annoying to say the least.
I though the ‘update without asking user’s permission’ bug had been fixed on the last firmware update? It certainly needs to be sorted asap.
Well it’s beyond anything – the user really should be able to disable auto-update if Humax can’t be bothered to comply with the latest D-book standards for all its products.
Do we know what the retune was even for?
Faust – 15 minutes ago »
Do we know what the retune was even for?
The BBC Olympics coverage. There will be another retune afterwards.
So what triggers the Humax box to retune? Something the broadcasters do or a signal from Humax towers?
Victor Delta – 31 minutes ago »
So what triggers the Humax box to retune?
A retune event in the broadcast data; nothing to with Humax.
It is details in the broadacast stream that outlines the changes. There are two categories. One is a recommendation to retune after a certain date/time and the other to manipulate the set top box’s database details. The retune is only recommended within the stream where the number of micro changes are very large. Humax interpret both major and minor change events as a full retune event and as we all know then give the user no everyday practical option for the average user to get out of it.
D-book 8 recently made smart retuning mandatory for new models that the manufacturer wants to use freeview branding.
The way that Humax set top boxes work is to store the retune event as a hidden item in the schedule. Hacking into the schedule database of the Humax and the hidden event can be deleted, But obviously the Humax may decide to recreate it if the event details are still being boradcast.
There are details of what is carried in the broadcast stream and what they are intended to help set box manufacturers to provide in the D-book 7 version 1 from 2011 that can be found online. The d-book copyright and distribution restricted so not through the DTG site. There are later versions but I don’t believe that the d-book 7 versions differ by much and the later versions have not yet been leaked.
Due to the (myhumax.org) policies please don’t ask me where to find the available version. Also if you are using a work’s PC also do not download the D-book as that will be a violation of copyright by your employer.
So if we can’t stop the Humax retuning itself (until a firmware fix is released – if it ever is) is there any way the average user (who doesn’t have access to this D-book) can predict when a forced retune may take place? (Other than, of course, a broad guess when a major event like the Olympics is coming up.)
Martin Liddle – 1 hour ago »
Faust – 15 minutes ago »
Do we know what the retune was even for?
The BBC Olympics coverage. There will be another retune afterwards.
The flaming Olympics – I spend an inordinate amount of time making sure I don’t have to watch anything connected with this corrupt event throughout the month of August and yet the BBC sees fit to wipe my recording schedule. 😈
Victor Delta – 19 minutes ago »
So if we can’t stop the Humax retuning itself (until a firmware fix is released – if it ever is) is there any way the average user (who doesn’t have access to this D-book) can predict when a forced retune may take place? (Other than, of course, a broad guess when a major event like the Olympics is coming up.)
The custom firmware has a hack to delete the hidden event if it’s in the schedule when the HDR-FOX T2 or HD-FOX T2 is booted.
I mentioned the d-book for just background reading. It’s certainly more complex to read than to implement the custom firmware and the hack (which hummy.tv call ‘disable-DSO’ because of when a resolution to the problem was tackled).
Luke – 1 minute ago »
Victor Delta – 19 minutes ago »
So if we can’t stop the Humax retuning itself (until a firmware fix is released – if it ever is) is there any way the average user (who doesn’t have access to this D-book) can predict when a forced retune may take place? (Other than, of course, a broad guess when a major event like the Olympics is coming up.)
The custom firmware has a hack to delete the hidden event if it’s in the schedule when the HDR-FOX T2 or HD-FOX T2 is booted.
I mentioned the d-book for just background reading. It’s certainly more complex to read than to implement the custom firmware and the hack (which hummy.tv call ‘disable-DSO’ because of when a resolution to the problem was tackled).
So presume the answer to my question is ‘no’ if one’s using an HDR-2000T?
Correct.
My HDR-2000T in April failed to pick up the event. I’d given it away a couple of weeks before and the new owner sat watching for the pop-up which never came. As I haven’t received a phone call last night I’m wondering whether it has skipped the retune again!
Why does this never happen with our HDR 1000s? Is this because it’s a more advance system i.e. EPG than the Freeview model?
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