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July 30, 2012 at 3:15 pm #13450
Barry
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July 30, 2012 at 8:19 pm #34434myhumax
ParticipantWould anyone care to predict how this will affect the Humax Freeview+ PVRs and their recordings behaviour?
July 31, 2012 at 3:51 pm #34435Anonymous
InactiveI’ll stick my neck out.
Why would it affect the Humax Freeview+ PVRS recordings behaviour?
Aren’t the LCNs just used when allocating the channel numbers during tuning?
In a way this change is similar in some ways to tuning into muxs from different transmitters. When tuned to more than one transmitter there are usually channels allocated different LCNs than in the NIT. It is still possible to switch channels to watch one of the 800s. Just because the NIT has changed since tuning should not be any different. Also on a duplicate transmitter scenario providing you were last tuned to a channel from the same transmitter then the timer recording will still work. This demonstrates that changing the LCNs in the NIT will also be OK as far as recording goes.
What could be an issue is for HD/HDR-Fox-T2s on version 28 as they may have a forced retune and lose the schedule.
August 6, 2012 at 12:37 pm #34436myhumax
ParticipantOn a personal note, these are the issues I have in mind:
[list][*]Does a channel rescan delete your schedules?[/*]
[*]Do all channels reappear (including those you’ve deleted)?[/*]
[*]What happens to your favourite list(s)?[/*]
[*]What happens to recording priorities?[/*][/list]
August 6, 2012 at 1:58 pm #34437Anonymous
InactiveOne thing I learnt from this site a while back is always to do a Manual rescan after doing a default reset (all channels and recording schedules gone). If you start at channel 21 and work your way up, you will find the current five frequency channels with the near 100% quality; do a search on each individual of those as you find them till you get to channel 69; then no 800s. Currently on an SD Hummy you will find the HD frequency; good signal but no quality reading for that Tx mode.
http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/broadcasting/guidance/tech-guidance/dsodetails/ .
Does anyone know who is actually running the Digital Terrestrial Television platform known, currently, as Freeview? Who is the Boss Hog of the whole system; what is the hierarchy of the organisations involved? Basically, who is the split NIT who kicks arse to get it sorted and the operating rules standardised and obeyed? If you find him please can you tell him/her that it should be compulsory for the EPG to show which series and episode of any programme is scheduled. And; the EPG recording reservation should be able to tell the difference between the latest series showing in the evening and the series being repeated on day-time TV.
As Hummy have volunteered to make a box for the “YouView” specification, is Freeview likely to be renamed and re-specified as FreeYouView or ViewYouFree+Top-up-NotFree etc etc. Boss Hog needs to get a grip on this animal.
Cautionary note. My neighbour bought, on-line, an HD Ready 1080i TV recently, to watch the Olympics on BBC HD. You have probably guessed the rest already. It may say HD Ready but that does not mean it has got an HD Freeview tuner in it. If it ain’t got the “FreeviewHD” logo on it, then it’s Freeview(SD). Same with Smart TVs. Keep the TV dumb. The smarts in the TV will be out of date in 18 months; you will probably keep the TV for seven to ten years. Keep the smarts in the set top box, it’s cheaper and easier to throw away. All the best, great site. Acorn.
August 14, 2012 at 10:06 am #34438myhumax
ParticipantHaving just read in the news about companies bidding to run the local channels, and reading the DMOL link, it seems that there are going to be a lot more channels next year.
So how will my aging PVR-9200T going to cope with the EPG data carousel and caching the EPG on to disk – will it cope? Will any legacy kit going to cope? I’m worrying for nothing right?
Talking of legacy kit, didn’t the Toppy have a major NIT issue at one stage?
August 14, 2012 at 12:56 pm #34439Anonymous
Inactiveson_t – 2 hours ago » Talking of legacy kit, didn’t the Toppy have a major NIT issue at one stage?
Yes. R2-D2 wrote the NitFix patch fairly quickly. Topfield did release a new firmware but left the SplitNIT feature in.
August 21, 2012 at 8:58 am #34440Anonymous
InactiveLooks like Sky have thrown a spanner in the works, so looks like we will have to do this more than once!
http://www.a516digital.com/2012/08/19th-september-2012-proposed-freeview.html
http://www.a516digital.com/2012/08/sky-appeal-puts-some-freeview-channel.html
August 21, 2012 at 10:03 am #34441Anonymous
InactiveLuke – 6 days ago »
son_t – 2 hours ago » Talking of legacy kit, didn’t the Toppy have a major NIT issue at one stage?
Yes. R2-D2 wrote the NitFix patch fairly quickly. Topfield did release a new firmware but left the SplitNIT feature in.
If only they had adopted the rest of R2’s fixes. Makes you wonder how many Toppy users are still running the inferior official firmware or binned their box due to that (or the PSU caps failing)?
September 19, 2012 at 9:06 am #34442Anonymous
InactiveSeems the retune scheduled for today is “around lunchtime” and a further retune will occur on 17th October.
September 19, 2012 at 11:05 am #34443Barry
ModeratorChanges due today complete in my region.
September 19, 2012 at 11:11 am #34444grahamlthompson
ParticipantSutton Coldfield – ditto
October 4, 2012 at 2:27 pm #34445Barry
ModeratorNext retune confirmed as 17 Oct 2012:
http://www.dmol.co.uk/latest_news
HD channels will start at 101 (currently 50)
Adult section will start at 171 (currently 91)
October 4, 2012 at 4:29 pm #34446Anonymous
InactiveThere is a thread on DS talking about EPG population problems on the SD machines that started around the time of the reshuffle, any connection I wonder?
October 16, 2012 at 7:39 am #34447Anonymous
InactiveI asked DMOL about the Freeview retune scheduled for Wednesday 17th October and they confirmed that it should be complete and safe to retune after 1pm.
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