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I can use my newly bought FVP4000T to play files in the lounge stored on my PC upstairs, but when on my (Windows 7) PC upstairs I can’t see the Humax as a drive at all under “My PC”. I can see it under “Network” as a “Media Device” and under “Other devices” as a “dial server”, but can’t access any files to click and drag them (although I can see them if I double click the icons as files in WMP, apparently protected, and unplayable).
Have meticulously followed all settings instructions from Humax about Samba & Network servers & FTP to no avail.
Humax help team suggests “security settings on your PC are interfering with the network operations”, but not how to go about changing them, so I switched off the firewall completely and it made no difference.
I’ve also found that the Network map says “the following discovered devices cannot be placed in the map”, but doesn’t say why not or what you can do about it.
Odd behaviour of the Humax so far has included deleting all recordings when I transferred a small mpeg from a USB stick to its hard drive (fortunately not a big deal as the device is only days old, but quite a major negative if it happens again); and never starting settings unless I press the Home button twice. I presume these glitches are irrelevant, but mention them in case they aren’t.
I’d be most grateful for any help anyone can offer.
Afraid I can’t help, but I can tell you I get the same issues on my MacBook and on my second-best PC on which I run Ubuntu, and on my third-best PC running Windows 10! So the problem may not be security settings on your PC.
Have you learned anything else in the weeks since your post?
I haven’t learned anything that will help I’m afraid, but I have concluded that the Humax is never going to appear as a drive no matter what I do, and I have taken it back for a refund. I suspect that people who just want to record television programmes, store them on the box they recorded them on, and watch them at another time will find this product ideal.
However anybody who wants to do anything else, like write DVDs from the files, will probably be disappointed. Humax responds to my telling them that the files produced by their box often can’t be handled by a variety of different software packages – like Aimersoft, DVD Lab Pro, VideoReDo, WMP – that they will probably play on VLC. But that isn’t the point. I want to manipulate them, cut bits out, write DVDs with them etc and that’s why I decided to take the Humax back.
I haven’t found anything that will write DVDs or allow you to take files off that you can work with, btw, but would love to hear if such a product exists from anyone who finds one.
My old Sony HDD/DVD recorder can do this – you can snip out ads, subdivide recordings, retitle – manhandle the recording in any way you like and then write the result to DVD or HDD, no other equipment or software required. You might find one on ebay. SD, of course.
The early YouView boxes (DTR-1000/1010) could send a recording to a DVD recorder in realtime, via SCART. I don’t know about current models.
Thanks for this info! We’ve had Panasonic DVD recorders for ages but they have a recurrent fault which displays U80 or U81, and which Panasonic don’t seem to have bothered to deal with even in recent models – hence the change to Humax, which unfortunately just swapped one problem for another set! It seems people who want media storage not linked to the recorder are few and far between.
It’s basically a rights issue. But it may also be true that fewer people are interested in building up physical media libraries than was previously the case.
Any of the Humax Freeview+ recorders HDR FOX T2, HDR1800/2000T will export SD recordings to USB (removing the encryption in the copying process). The content is DVD compliant mpeg2 in a transport stream container. No problem with editing in Videoredo. As the FVP-4000T is recording the same data and use the same container format, and as I understand it also decrypts SD on copying to USB I would be surprised if that doesn’t work. I wouldn’t expect transfers by FTP or Samba to decrypt though. Perhaps a owner would comment. Personally I wouldn’t bother with burning to DVD. Editing with VideoRedo and copying to a USB Hard Drive (or a large capacity USB memory stick) and using a cheap portable media player (from about £20.00) will play back anywhere you have a TV with a HDMI port. You can also replay on mobile devices like tablets and smart phones. A 500GB USB portable hard drive will hold a lot of SD content.
Using a DVD recorder while simple has two problems.
1 You can only record in real time and doing so means you can’t use the box while doing so.
2 Copying the original data as is is lossless, using a DVD recorder has two lossy conversion steps. The source has to convert the digital data to analogue. The DVD reccrder has to recode the analogue data back to mpeg2 in real time.
Videoredo is extremely fast as content is only recoded at edit points. Basically it’s almost as fast as your hard disk can write the data.
KenUK – 1 month ago »
I can use my newly bought FVP4000T to play files in the lounge stored on my PC upstairs, but when on my (Windows 7) PC upstairs I can’t see the Humax as a drive at all under “My PC”. I can see it under “Network” as a “Media Device” and under “Other devices” as a “dial server”, but can’t access any files to click and drag them (although I can see them if I double click the icons as files in WMP, apparently protected, and unplayable).
Have meticulously followed all settings instructions from Humax about Samba & Network servers & FTP to no avail.
Humax help team suggests “security settings on your PC are interfering with the network operations”, but not how to go about changing them, so I switched off the firewall completely and it made no difference.
I’ve also found that the Network map says “the following discovered devices cannot be placed in the map”, but doesn’t say why not or what you can do about it.
Odd behaviour of the Humax so far has included deleting all recordings when I transferred a small mpeg from a USB stick to its hard drive (fortunately not a big deal as the device is only days old, but quite a major negative if it happens again); and never starting settings unless I press the Home button twice. I presume these glitches are irrelevant, but mention them in case they aren’t.
I’d be most grateful for any help anyone can offer.
I’ve been struggling for weeks to get the FVP-4000T to appear as a mapped drive on any of my Windows PC. I did manage to get it to appear in the Network as a media device on some of them but it would not appear in the Network on others at all.
I played around with security settings, ports, firewalls etc but finally today hit on the solution which works for me.
Firstly open file explorer and select Map Network Drive. Select a suitable drive letter and then in the server path box type \192.168.0.3recordings – obviously you need to use your Humax’s IP address which you can read from the Network section of Settings.
When I first did this the Recordings folder appeared as drive Z but was completely empty even though I knew there were recordings in there so I went back into the Humax settings and turned off the FTP server, turned off the Download folder and cancelled the password option. With just SAMBA server on, I went back into Network Server and restarted the Server under Server Status.
Immediately the empty folder was populated with all the TV recordings which can now be copied to the PC.
I probably won’t use the Download folder option but I would hope that now having started this process it should be possible to continue with the same logic and set up file copying of image or video files from PC to Humax.
I hope this helps.
Richard
I’ve been struggling for weeks to get the FVP-4000T to appear as a mapped drive on any of my Windows PC. I did manage to get it to appear in the Network as a media device on some of them but it would not appear in the Network on others at all.
I played around with security settings, ports, firewalls etc but finally today hit on the solution which works for me.
Firstly open file explorer and select Map Network Drive. Select a suitable drive letter and then in the server path box type \192.168.0.3recordings – obviously you need to use your Humax’s IP address which you can read from the Network section of Settings.
When I first did this the Recordings folder appeared as drive Z but was completely empty even though I knew there were recordings in there so I went back into the Humax settings and turned off the FTP server, turned off the Download folder and cancelled the password option. With just SAMBA server on, I went back into Network Server and restarted the Server under Server Status.
Immediately the empty folder was populated with all the TV recordings which can now be copied to the PC.
I probably won’t use the Download folder option but I would hope that now having started this process it should be possible to continue with the same logic and set up file copying of image or video files from PC to Humax.
I hope this helps.
Richard
Tried again this morning and Drive Z was still visible but empty again. Restarted SAMBA server, even though it was supposedly running already, and Drive Z immediately populated.
There is something seriously flaky about the SAMBA server so let’s hope that Humax sort this out in a future firmware update!
Richard
A few questions:
What was the sequence of starting the PC and from what state (Sleep, Hibernate, power down)?
Which was started first PC or FVP-4000T? Restarting Samba would cause it to rebroadcast it’s presence.
Did you try refreshing the network drive (F5)?
Samba is a well known widely used server with a GNU General Public License – all Humax would have done is to compile the source.
Edit: In the network and sharing centre check that your network type is Private and that in advanced sharing settings that Network Discovery is turned on.
REPASSAC – 7 minutes ago »
A few questions:
What was the sequence of starting the PC and from what state (Sleep, Hibernate, power down)?
Which was started first PC or FVP-4000T? Restarting Samba would cause it to rebroadcast it’s presence.
Did you try refreshing the network drive (F5)?
Samba is a well known widely used server with a GNU General Public License – all Humax would have done is to compile the source.
I have several devices on my network with SMB/CIFS servers: NAS boxes, internet radios etc and they all work well so it’s definitely the Humax implementation which is dodgy. Over the last month I have tried every possible combination of booting, re-booting, refreshing, registry edits on my PC (Vista Home Premium) and two laptops (Vista Business and W10) and even an Ubuntu 15 box which was better than Windows but still flaky.
After further experimentation this morning with the Humax shares turned on these are the Folders which can be mapped as Windows drives(exact spelling required):
\IPRecordings
\IPDownload
\IPMusic
\IPVideo
\IPPhoto
The path given in the Humax settings of /mnt/hd2/Media/Download appears to be of no use to Windows users.
The problem with the Humax configuration is that Music, Video and Photo and locked and will not accept uploads so all uploads (music, video or photo files or folders) have to be copied to the Downloads folder which makes it look like a mess.
Once you go into the Humax Media menu you can select between Video, Photo or Music but the files do not seem to be physically moved to the appropriate folder although they do appear and play in the correct location onscreen. The quality of playback or display is very good.
The one slight issue I have is that in the Recordings mapped drive all the files appear as .mpeg-ts, even those recorded in SD. I can drag and drop them to the PC but they won’t play until I convert them to a more common .mpg format. I have a comprehensive Codec pack installed but I might be able to update that later and see if a more recent version of ffmpeg will play them. However, I will still need to convert them for playback on our Android tablets.
Any advice about why my Humax is not converting to .mpg on-the-fly would be appreciated.
Richard
Just seen your advice about private networks and discovery but I’m sure you have worked out that I’m a reasonably advanced user with a Gigabit LAN and a 802.11n wifi networks throughout the house so if this were a “normal” Windows problem I would have quickly sorted it.
RichardS-UK – 4 hours ago »
REPASSAC – 7 minutes ago »
A few questions:
What was the sequence of starting the PC and from what state (Sleep, Hibernate, power down)?
Which was started first PC or FVP-4000T? Restarting Samba would cause it to rebroadcast it’s presence.
Did you try refreshing the network drive (F5)?
Samba is a well known widely used server with a GNU General Public License – all Humax would have done is to compile the source.
Any advice about why my Humax is not converting to .mpg on-the-fly would be appreciated.
Richard
Samba and FTP will just present the file as is.
The media server should convert however to MPG or any DLNA standard formats the client understands. I would be surprised if you actually need to convert, I would think just changing the file extension to .mpg, .mpeg or .ts would do. Did you try defining mpeg-ts as an identical file type to MPEG (Just an idea)?
I don’t have a FVP-4000T – what might help is can you do a
NET view
command and also post what your router sees as connected devices.
I also recall that most windows versions handle hosts in it’s current workgroup differently from those not in the workgroup.
On the Foxsat for example the Samba install on the custom firmware specially has a user settable workgroup setting`as well as a settable host name, to cope with two Foxsats on the network.
REPASSAC – 4 minutes ago »
RichardS-UK – 4 hours ago »
REPASSAC – 7 minutes ago »
A few questions:
What was the sequence of starting the PC and from what state (Sleep, Hibernate, power down)?
Which was started first PC or FVP-4000T? Restarting Samba would cause it to rebroadcast it’s presence.
Did you try refreshing the network drive (F5)?
Samba is a well known widely used server with a GNU General Public License – all Humax would have done is to compile the source.
Any advice about why my Humax is not converting to .mpg on-the-fly would be appreciated.
Richard
Samba and FTP will just present the file as is.
The media server should convert however to MPG or any DLNA standard formats the client understands. I would be surprised if you actually need to convert, I would think just changing the file extension to .mpg, .mpeg or .ts would do. Did you try defining mpeg-ts as an identical file type to MPEG (Just an idea)?
I don’t have a FVP-4000T – what might help is can you do a
NET view
command and also post what your router sees as connected devices.
I also recall that most windows versions handle hosts in it’s current workgroup differently from those not in the workgroup.
On the Foxsat for example the Samba install on the custom firmware specially has a user settable workgroup setting`as well as a settable host name, to cope with two Foxsats on the network.
But this is not what Barry says:
https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/file-transfer
I’ve used an FTP transfer and the files transferred are .ts encrypted as Barry says, but SD files over a mapped drive should be vanilla .mpg, so why aren’t mine?
Unfortunately changing the file extension doesn’t work. I’m going to play around with the file transfer / formats a bit more this evening and see if I can pin this down.
I tried changing workgroup names on the various PCs but that didn’t make any difference.
Richard
RichardS-UK – 4 minutes ago »
But this is not what Barry says:
https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/file-transfer
I’ve used an FTP transfer and the files transferred are .ts encrypted as Barry says, but SD files over a mapped drive should be vanilla .mpg, so why aren’t mine?
Unfortunately changing the file extension doesn’t work.
Richard
Barry, I notice that you have the standard hide file type set (see second JPG in link). What are they if you turn them on?
Edit: also what is you PC’s/Laptops workgroup?
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