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  • #15614
    Anonymous
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    Hi,

    My daughter had a card read out on Cbeebies – We successfully recorded it to keep for posterity for her – but I think I’ve deleted it!!!!!!!

    2 Questions –

    1) How can I lock a file from ever being deleted (to prevent this hapening again)

    and

    2) Can a deleted file be recovered (a recycle bin essentially)

    Thanks

    #51845
    Martin Liddle
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    grant_whittaker – 1 hour ago  » 

    1) How can I lock a file from ever being deleted (to prevent this hapening again)

    Select the recording, press the OPT+ button the remote and take the Lock option

    2) Can a deleted file be recovered (a recycle bin essentially)

    Not with the standard firmware. The custom firmware has a package to provide an undelete capability.

    #51846
    Anonymous
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    Thank you… sadly that means it’s gone then :(

    #51847
    Anonymous
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    Have you tried iPlayer? it still might be there?

    As of recovering deleted file, depends how far you’re prepared to go to try.

    The possibility would be: Unplug your box’s power, to stop any further activity on HDD. Remove HDD from the box. Connect to PC running live Linux rescue distribution, for example any of these. Recover what you can, and see if successful by playing back on your box.

    Yes, it is messy, and definitely not for faint hearted. Plus; If it was recorded in HD, as I do understand, it has been encoded, which complicates a matter even further.

    But, as I said, it is a possibility….

    #51848
    Martin Liddle
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    catinaz – 1 hour ago  » 

    The possibility would be: Unplug your box’s power, to stop any further activity on HDD. Remove HDD from the box. Connect to PC running live Linux rescue distribution, for example any of these. Recover what you can, and see if successful by playing back on your box.

    Have you actually recovered deleted files from an EXT3 formatted drive? I think the chances of success are very small.

    Plus; If it was recorded in HD, as I do understand, it has been encoded, which complicates a matter even further.

    All recordings are encrypted when written to the hard drive (both SD and HD). Humax provide a method to remove the encryption from SD recordings by copying to USB storage (or by streaming from the DLNA server).

    #51849
    Anonymous
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    Quote:
    Have you actually recovered deleted files from an EXT3 formatted drive? I think the chances of success are very small.

    No, I haven’t. All I’ve ever done, was to recover some photos from sd card. Which is walk in the park compared to encrypted video file from HDR box.

    The question is: How significant/important the file is, to go to all the trouble. And in this case, I think, they can live without it.

    But I was pointing to the theoretical chance rather than practical. And I still think, that with enough knowledge and time it would be possible to recover it. After all ext3 is a journaled file system, which in theory, should be easier to recover files from? Or rather “undelete” them from journal, since files them selves are not physically deleted (unless have been overwritten later)? Or am I confusing something?

    #51850
    Anonymous
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    Quote:

    The question is: How significant/important the file is, to go to all the trouble. And in this case, I think, they can live without it.

    Not a very helpful contribution.

    OP, might it be worth emailing Cbeebies? As the BBC is soon to open its archive, the programme in which your daughter’s card was read out might become available to buy and download.

    #51851
    grahamlthompson
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    Grant is the programme you want currently available on iplayer ?.

    If so there is a free PC programme called Web PVR Manager that can download iplayer content to your PC in a format you can then save on other media like a DVD for example. If you can post the time and date and name of the programme I will have a look for it.

    #51852
    Martin Liddle
    Participant

    catinaz – 8 hours ago  » 

    After all ext3 is a journaled file system, which in theory, should be easier to recover files from?

    It is true that EXT3 is a journaled file system but journaling is about keeping the file system consistent after a crash or sudden power loss and doesn’t keep long term data that would be needed for undelete operations. I will repeat my advice to the OP is not to waste time trying to recover the file.

    #51853
    Anonymous
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    Get_Iplayer is currently showing 303 programmes from the Cbeebies channel available for download, what is the programme’s title / episode name?

    #51854
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thanks for all the help everyone.

    The good news is that on youtube someone had posted the card AFTER hers….

    We managed to contact them, and they still had the original file which included the card in question!!!!

    Brilliant.

    However for future I would like to lock it so I can’t accidentally delete it. I have tried the “lock” function – however the “delete” option is still available, and I don’t want to risk clicking it to see if it wants a password BEFORE it deletes it in case it doesn’t!!

    I would in future want to copy any similar file to a external hard disk – but I am tearing my hair out as it has the option to “Move/Copy” but won’t let me copy it anywhere!!! This is a really stupid operating system – not logical at all.

    #51855
    Anonymous
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    I do have another recording I want to do this with – it won’t let me copy the file (or move it) to an external hard disk.

    #51856
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    You first need to identify a destination and a destination folder on a usb connected disk before the copy option becomes available.

    Unlike a copy option in windows which asks where you want to copy it to, the logic in Linux is destination first, then source.

    If you still have problems I will copy a file to a usb disk tomorrow and post the steps required.

    #51857
    Anonymous
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    Quote:
    The good news is that on youtube someone had posted the card AFTER hers….

    We managed to contact them, and they still had the original file which included the card in question!!!!

    Brilliant.

    Cool! :D

    #51858
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I recommend the custom firmware with undelete installed: this gives you a recycle bin to retrieve any accidentally deleted files. You could also copy to a USB drive as a back up.

    If you can play the YouTube clip with the Humax using the app, with custom firmware you can save a copy of the file.

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