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July 13, 2018 at 2:03 pm #19983
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InactiveMy HDD controller failed on my Humax 1000 box so I purchased a new 1100 box. I replaced the 500gb drive with a 2tb drive which it formatted and appears to work just fine.
I would however like to recover the recordings from my original 1tb drive which works fine in a caddy allowing me to see the files using a Linux emulation program. Unfortunately, I cannot open them as they appear to have been encrypted by the original box.
I even connected the caddy to the new boz via USB and the directories are all there however the box cannot see the files.
I have not tried connecting the caddy to the original box via USB which may work but ideally I want them on the new drive.
Has anyone managed to do this?
Thank you in anticipation
July 13, 2018 at 3:28 pm #86861Anonymous
InactiveI have not seen any posts while have managed this.
The recordings are secured to the unit which recorded them, probably using the units MAC address as part of the encryption key.
Re the idea of a USB caddy to the original unit, I suspect that decryption is only coded via the SATA connection but if you have a caddy we world be interested to know the result.
July 13, 2018 at 6:37 pm #86862Martin Liddle
ParticipantNickDawson – 4 hours ago »
Has anyone managed to do this?
You would need to crack the encryption to do what you want. There has been recent progress in understanding the encryption scheme used on the HDR-FOX T2 but as far as is known the later boxes use more secure encryption. Unless you are a software expert I think you should regard the recordings as lost.
July 13, 2018 at 7:46 pm #86863Anonymous
InactiveYes, I am coming to that conclusion myself.
I will connect the caddy to the old box and see of it sees them. If so, I may look at modifying the firmware code as I believe others have done this (I notices this on another forum). If that works (a big if) then I should be able to decrypt them using the box itself – a long shot I know.
This is all on the back burner now due to the low chance if success and the work involved however, I will keep this thread updated with progress.
July 13, 2018 at 8:20 pm #86864grahamlthompson
ParticipantNickDawson – 32 minutes ago »
Yes, I am coming to that conclusion myself.
I will connect the caddy to the old box and see of it sees them. If so, I may look at modifying the firmware code as I believe others have done this (I notices this on another forum). If that works (a big if) then I should be able to decrypt them using the box itself – a long shot I know.
This is all on the back burner now due to the low chance if success and the work involved however, I will keep this thread updated with progress.
No one has been able to modify the firmware on a G2 box. only on the first generation eg Humax boxes (Foxsat-HDR). SD recordngs on a G1 Humax box are not encrypted.
Only the Freeview boxes have the built in capability to decrypt SD content as both SD and HD are encrypted, Copying SD recordings to USB on a Frreview+ unit decrypts the content.
July 14, 2018 at 4:42 pm #86865Anonymous
InactiveOh dear, unless I can see the recordings via the caddy and USB, I guess they are gone.
July 15, 2018 at 11:02 am #86866Anonymous
InactiveAn alternative solution would be to record the HDMI output using an HDMI splitter such as this to defeat the encryption https://www.amazon.co.uk/iSolem-Switch-Splitter-Input-Output/dp/B006KZBC92/ref=sr_1_26?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1531650335&sr=1-26&keywords=hdmi-splitter
plus a means of capturing the split HDMI video output, such as a game capture card.
July 15, 2018 at 3:55 pm #86867Martin Liddle
Participantxeroid4 – 4 hours ago »
An alternative solution would be to record the HDMI output using an HDMI splitter such as this to defeat the encryption
How would that work when the box that made the recordings has failed?
July 15, 2018 at 6:33 pm #86868Anonymous
InactiveThat may well work. The box itself has not failed however the ability to read the HDD has ie the HDD controller. If I can read the HDD on the box via a caddy and USB then an HDMI splitter may well work.
Will look into that!
Thank you!
July 15, 2018 at 6:53 pm #86869grahamlthompson
ParticipantNickDawson – 17 minutes ago »
That may well work. The box itself has not failed however the ability to read the HDD has ie the HDD controller. If I can read the HDD on the box via a caddy and USB then an HDMI splitter may well work.
Will look into that!
Thank you!
Pretty sure the only Humax satellite box that can replay encrypted content copied to a usb HDD is the Foxsat-HDR. In effect you had unlimited storage.
July 15, 2018 at 7:10 pm #86870Martin Liddle
ParticipantNickDawson – 35 minutes ago »
The box itself has not failed however the ability to read the HDD has ie the HDD controller. If I can read the HDD on the box via a caddy and USB then an HDMI splitter may well work.
I don’t think it will work but you might as well try.
July 21, 2018 at 8:56 am #86871Anonymous
InactiveIt certainly works with a Sky box so don’t see why it shouldn’t work with a Humax.
You will of course need a method of replaying the resulting (?) MP4 recordings, ie VLC, Kodi, Plex, etc.
July 21, 2018 at 11:38 am #86872grahamlthompson
Participantxeroid4 – 2 hours ago »
It certainly works with a Sky box so don’t see why it shouldn’t work with a Humax.
You will of course need a method of replaying the resulting (?) MP4 recordings, ie VLC, Kodi, Plex, etc.
It will work with a Foxsat-HDR which had a software update just after launch which enabled playback of encrypted content via usb.
I very much doubt it will work on a G2 box, worth a try though.
You can do similar if you have a Freeview-HD PVR using a digital modulator and tuning the DVB-T HD digital mux it creates. A HDR-FOX-T2 is ideal because with the aid of the custom firmware you can export the recordings directly to a PC.
July 21, 2018 at 2:44 pm #86873Anonymous
InactiveThis is why I say again. Never use a modern PVR for ‘treasured recordings’ because once your box dies your recordings die with it.
If you have something like the Fox-T2 or the 2000T then you can export to a USB/HDD for transferring to a PC and that will work. In the case of the 2000T that must be in SD. Not sure about the format for the Fox-T2
July 21, 2018 at 9:27 pm #86874grahamlthompson
ParticipantFaust – 6 hours ago »
This is why I say again. Never use a modern PVR for ‘treasured recordings’ because once your box dies your recordings die with it.
If you have something like the Fox-T2 or the 2000T then you can export to a USB/HDD for transferring to a PC and that will work. In the case of the 2000T that must be in SD. Not sure about the format for the Fox-T2
It’s possible to transfer HD recordings to USB on the HDR-FOX-T2 and the newer HDR-1800/2000T as well and preserve them. It’s much easier on the HDR-FOX-T2 because you do not need to use USB to transfer.
Can’t say anything more except to say all three boxes are able to decrypt existing encrypted content using the built in software,
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