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I often watch programmes live that I also record the series of. Today I watched egg heads and paused 15 minutes into the 30 minute programme. Just after I continued to watch the paused live program it suddenly stopped and went back to real time live TV. I have noticed that the time shift failed at the same time as the programme being recorded ended. The recorder stopped recording egg heads series recording and stopped the time shift at the same time. I have noticed that this happens every time and there aren’t even any other programmes set to be recorded. I obviously went into the recordings and continued to watch the recorded programme but this is a pain in the neck.
Series is a red herring.
It’s working the way it’s supposed to – it only buffers the current programme.
I don’t understand you. There was still 10 minutes of the paused programme left
Phil1 – 8 hours ago »
I don’t understand you. There was still 10 minutes of the paused programme left
When the live programme finished the time shift buffer resets to record the next programme from the beginning. The fix is simple, watch the recording in chasing playback. Because you are now watching from the actual recording file you can pause/rewind etc within the current end position of the live recording.
I still don’t get this. My digital stream recorder buffers for 2 hours. The programme ending makes no difference. The only time buffering stops is when another programme in the timer starts to record. It can’t record 2 programs and buffer at the same time. This old recorder is ancient and one of the first HD recorders
Phil1 – 11 minutes ago »
I still don’t get this. My digital stream recorder buffers for 2 hours. The programme ending makes no difference. The only time buffering stops is when another programme in the timer starts to record. It can’t record 2 programs and buffer at the same time. This old recorder is ancient and one of the first HD recorders
The fact is that is how all Humax pvrs work. What is the problem with simply watching the recording as it is being made ? That’s what chasing playback is for. Can your digital stream record a whole programme from the buffer completely automatically if the box was tuned to the channel when the programme started by pushing a single button at any time the programme is being viewed ?
My HDR-FOX T2, HDR-2000T and HD-FOX T2 don’t work quite like that. They have a 2 hour buffer but if a programme is being recorded the buffer is replaced by making use of the recording, in effect giving the appearance that the normal buffer has been cleared when the watched programme starts to record. When the recording ends for a watched live programme it then reverts to the buffer.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there are a lot of owners who have not noticed that the 2 hour buffer isn’t always 2 hours, as it must be a bit unusual to watch live and record the same broadcast of a programme.
But as you said, the solution is simple, just use chase play if the programme you want to watch is recording.
I obviously know how to get around this. Surely a buffer should stay until you fast forward through adverts or hit the time limit of 2 hours. Why would the end of recording a programme wipe the buffer of 15 minutes time shift if there aren’t any other programmes being recorded? I have many series set to record and often watch programmes live if there isn’t anything else on. I am not really asking advice. I’m just pointing out a firmware fault.
Phil1 – 1 hour ago »
I obviously know how to get around this. Surely a buffer should stay until you fast forward through adverts or hit the time limit of 2 hours. Why would the end of recording a programme wipe the buffer of 15 minutes time shift if there aren’t any other programmes being recorded? I have many series set to record and often watch programmes live if there isn’t anything else on. I am not really asking advice. I’m just pointing out a firmware fault.
If it did that, then if you switched to watch the follow on programme and wanted to record it from the buffer you wouldn’t get the start. Doing it the way it does always means the end of the programme is always available by simply using the recording you already have. To preserve the buffer and record from the end of the existing buffered content means that the buffer available would be variable and the follow up may not fit into the available space. I don’t think it’s a fault at all, it’s simply the way the comprimise that is required has been handled.
Crap
Phil1 – 30 seconds ago »
Crap
You really shouldn’t say such things about your own posts
Get used to it, it’s just the way the box works. If you don’t like it send it back and stop trying to perpetuate what frankly is a totally trivial argument, as there is a perfectly easy way to avoid the issue.
Why you want to record the programme and then watch it live (in effect recording it twice) baffles me. I always watch ITV in chasing playback around 10 – 15 mins behind real time. That way you can skip the ads and finish watching about the same time as the actual programme completes.
Crap, not really. I imagine it was spec’d to enable :
Recoding the programme being viewed (subject to being tuned to that channel from the start of programme).
As you know what you want is always possible by using chase play.
It is not a bug, it just was not designed the ideal way for you.
p.s. Started posting before Graham’s reply.
grahamlthompson – 53 minutes ago
Why you want to record the programme and then watch it live (in effect recording it twice) baffles me.
Do you never watch something live that you are also recording for repeat viewing?
BB – 19 minutes ago »
grahamlthompson – 53 minutes ago
Why you want to record the programme and then watch it live (in effect recording it twice) baffles me.
Do you never watch something live that you are also recording for repeat viewing?
No because I know if I have to pause it for a period long enough that can’t be caught up in adverts I will lose the end. It takes seconds to press recordings and play the recording 30 seconds or so or longer behind real time. You can still repeat view as many times as you want.
Phil1 – 7 hours ago »
Why would the end of recording a programme wipe the buffer of 15 minutes time shift if there aren’t any other programmes being recorded?
I don’t think it necessarily does wipe the buffer. What may be happening is that it is using the recording itself as the ‘buffer’ and once the programme has stopped recording it switches back to using the real buffer which has not been populated with the programme. What leads me to suggest this is that on the HDR-FOX T2 the colour of the buffer changes to red as if indicating that the recording is being used instead of the 2 hour buffer while the recording is taking place.
grahamlthompson – 5 hours ago »
BB – 19 minutes ago »
grahamlthompson – 53 minutes ago
Why you want to record the programme and then watch it live (in effect recording it twice) baffles me.
Do you never watch something live that you are also recording for repeat viewing?
No because I know if I have to pause it for a period long enough that can’t be caught up in adverts I will lose the end. It takes seconds to press recordings and play the recording 30 seconds or so or longer behind real time. You can still repeat view as many times as you want.
I don’t either It is less restrictive to use the recording being made, as it means that I can set bookmarks (on the HDR-FOX T2) and I can restart where I left off if I temporarily switch channels.
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