Can I stream iPhone to Humax?

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  • #18319
    Anonymous
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    Hi guys, just wondered if there a way to stream video from my iPhone to Humax 1010s in the same way I can stream it to an AppleTV box?

    Thanks

    #73512
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    Welcome to our forum.

    I think the chances of this are next to zero.

    Fistly Apple devices are so locked down that you can only use another Apple device to interchange content.

    The 1010S basically can’t stream live video other than via it’s built in streaming apps. EG You can stream Youtube, but only by using a compatible app to transfer the mobile device playlist to a G2 Freesat box. The streaming is actually handled by the Freesat box.

    Basically the 1010S can only stream physical files that.

    1 Are not DRM protected (or encrypted). Both are alien to Apple devices.

    2 Are in a format that the 1010s has the capability to decode the digital compression codec used for both video and audio. (Virtually everything you can do on a Apple device has to be via Itunes (and you have pay inflated rates for non standard interconnects).

    #73513
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thanks for the info. I thought this would be the case. It’s still a great box,

    #73514
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Am I missing something because:

    I use an HDMI cable to my TV from iPhone 6s or iPhone X or iPad, or android 8.1 or Macbook or PC or any browser and then to Humax 1000s via HDMI and all works fine.

    Prime Video also does not have any issues but NowTV does not like to display when connecting and external display via the HDMI cable.

    #73515
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    evanp – 13 minutes ago  » 

    Am I missing something because:

    I use an HDMI cable to my TV from iPhone 6s or iPhone X or iPad, or android 8.1 or Macbook or PC or any browser and then to Humax 1000s via HDMI and all works fine.

    Prime Video also does not have any issues but NowTV does not like to display when connecting and external display via the HDMI cable.

    Other than possibly for audio (arc -audio return channel and a network connection on newer kit)), a hdmi cable is a one way video cable from a source to a display. Your Phone is a source your TV is a display. The Humax is a source the hdmi port is out only.

    Part of the HDCP handshake test in addition to checking the display destination can handle the audio and video the box will not output if the destination confirms it’s a recording device.

    Of course the 1000S works fine the connection from your phone to the TV is entirely seperate. You select which hdmi input is sent to the screen by selecting which port you want to watch.

    eg

    My laptop has a hdmi port, it cant’ be used as a monitor (display). The same applies to your phone.

    #73516
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    The TV with HDMI works with all the devices that I mentioned.

    #73517
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    evanp – 36 seconds ago  » 

    The TV with HDMI works with all the devices that I mentioned.

    Of course it does. However you aren’t sending any video data from your phone to the Humax only to the TV. If you were how could you see it the Humax has only 1 HDMI port and it’s output only ?

    The NOW TV app is deliberately crippled not to send NOW TV by HDMI to your TV.

    There would be absolutely no point in connecting a source to a HUMAX pvr HDMI port. They can only record from the built in tuners.

    #73518
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Well, you have not read my answer correctly. I never said that I connected the phone to Humax.

    But the point is that you can connect an iPhone or Android phone or any device that uses HDMI to a TV and you do not have to go through Humax. As a matter of fact this can be done via many different cables. Effectively the TV is the display of the media that has accepted input from Humax and another HDMI that connects other devices like iPhone.

    As far as:

    “Fistly Apple devices are so locked down that you can only use another Apple device to interchange content.” I am not sure what you mean because I can exchange files and content with Apple devices and any other PC, Linux, Windows Server it does not seem to hove any limitation.

    Apple devices are some of the most open…I have never have come to a situation that I cannot open a file with an iPhone, iPad or Mac. While in most other devices based in Linux or Windows I cannot open for example Apple files.

    In addition I am pointing out that apps Like NowTV cannot be viewed via HDMI to a TV not because of Apple but because of the app. It seems that you repeat what I said….

    I just do not get your points….

    #73519
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    evanp – 8 hours ago  » 

    Well, you have not read my answer correctly. I never said that I connected the phone to Humax.

    But the point is that you can connect an iPhone or Android phone or any device that uses HDMI to a TV and you do not have to go through Humax. As a matter of fact this can be done via many different cables. Effectively the TV is the display of the media that has accepted input from Humax and another HDMI that connects other devices like iPhone.

    As far as:

    “Fistly Apple devices are so locked down that you can only use another Apple device to interchange content.” I am not sure what you mean because I can exchange files and content with Apple devices and any other PC, Linux, Windows Server it does not seem to hove any limitation.

    Apple devices are some of the most open…I have never have come to a situation that I cannot open a file with an iPhone, iPad or Mac. While in most other devices based in Linux or Windows I cannot open for example Apple files.

    In addition I am pointing out that apps Like NowTV cannot be viewed via HDMI to a TV not because of Apple but because of the app. It seems that you repeat what I said….

    I just do not get your points….

    The title of this thread is can I stream iphone to Humax, the answer is no. You may be able to stream a physical file which exists on the phone because the Humax G2 boxes have a DLNA client. You can transfer a youtube stream from a phone to the Humax G2 boxes, but the Humax itself is handling the video stream it’s not coming via the phone at all. In all cases the HDMI connection’s only involvement is displaying the Humax boxes own output on a display.

    #73520
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I am sorry you are bringing the most correct answer after so much fuss. You could be helpful by telling the person that Humax in the future might include an interface that can do this from other devices like iphone. Currently is not available in HUMAX but you do not have to do this via HUMAX.

    There is nothing new done connecting with an HDMI cable or some adapter to your TV if it is not already capable in doing so. It is done in millions or billions of TV/Displays. You can just tell him you do not have to use HUMAX for this.

    #73521
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    evanp – 17 minutes ago  » 

    I am sorry you are bringing the most correct answer after so much fuss. You could be helpful by telling the person that Humax in the future might include an interface that can do this from other devices like iphone. Currently is not available in HUMAX but you do not have to do this via HUMAX.

    There is nothing new done connecting with an HDMI cable or some adapter to your TV if it is not already capable in doing so. It is done in millions or billions of TV/Displays. You can just tell him you do not have to use HUMAX for this.

    There are no newpvr’s with HDMI in other than a range of very expensive Blu-ray recorders from Panasonic.. They would be illegal and in any case they do not have any built in capability to encode and compress a HDMI video and audio stream. Without a real time H264/AVC hardware encoder the amount of data would fill a hard disk in a very short time. The Panasonic Blu-ray recorders do have this capability.

    A tad baffled my recent post merely re-iterates what I have already posted. Not sure what your baffling post 4 means

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    Am I missing something because:

    I use an HDMI cable to my TV from iPhone 6s or iPhone X or iPad, or android 8.1 or Macbook or PC or any browser and then to Humax 1000s via HDMI and all works fine.

    The bit in bold is impossible you cannot connect anything by HDMI to any Humax pvr, the HDMI port is an output only device.

    #73522
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    You need to take reading lessons.

    The above bolded configuration works perfectly well there is nothing wrong. You just need to read it correctly. There is no much I can help you there.

    #73523
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    evanp – 5 minutes ago  » 

    You need to take reading lessons.

    The above bolded configuration works perfectly well there is nothing wrong. You just need to read it correctly. There is no much I can help you there.

    I give up are you really that obtuse ?

    This is absolute rubbish

    and then to Humax 1000s via HDMI and all works fine.

    There is nothing going from your phone via your TV to the Humax. Your phone is sending uncompressed Video and Audio data to your TV and it’s displaying it on it’s panel. That’s the end of it, it goes no where else.

    #73524
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Your reading is rubbish as well your advice. You are just do not know what you are talking about you want to mud a perfect working answer that works with millions of devices.

    Good luck to you and your company.

    #73525
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    evanp – 9 minutes ago  » 

    Your reading is rubbish as well your advice. You are just do not know what you are talking about you want to mud a perfect working answer that works with millions of devices.

    Good luck to you and your company.

    It’s perfectly obvious you know absolutely nothing about how mpeg compression systems work. HD TV uses H264/AVC (aka AVC) and depending on platform ac3 or AAC for audio. Without mpeg compression Digital TV would be impossible.

    Try reading and learning

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC

    Typical HD broadcast format, the tuner in the box decodes the stream and because it’s digital it simply copies it as is to the pvr HDD.

    On playback the compressed data is decoded, after this the uncompressed audio and video is delivered delivered by HDMI to a display (normally a TV)

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