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A strange question for sure, but sadly …
I have taken my HDR 1000s filled with recordings for the winter season in France and have left my remote in the UK(Duh!). One ray of hope is that I have an iPad but I need my HDR upgraded for that. The box is hooked to the internet but is not attached to a Sat dish – there isn’t one and I only want viewing my recordings. So a couple of questions …
1) With the box plugged into the internet will it eventually self upgrade via that? If so, do I need to leave it in standby or switched on? How long should I expect to wait?
2) If not is there any other way to force the box to do an internet upgrade without using a remote? It seems the buttons on the box do nothing to help drive the menu system.
3) Any other suggestions?
Many thanks for any advice
Alan Smith.
Even if you did update the box you’d still need the remote to be able to sync the box to your iPad.
Quote:3) Any other suggestions?1. Ask some body to post the remote to you.
2. See local electrical shop for universal remote. (Note: If you get one and it works – leave it there, so you do not have to remember to bring it with you.)
3. Ask some one in the UK to buy universal remote and post it to you. (Note: Same as #2)
Thanks for the replies guys. Unfortunately I’ve learnt not to rely on the post here especially when staying in a large apartment block – deliveries go astray!
I thought I would not need to sync with the box if you were not interested in remote recording. Thanks for pointing that out.
I’ll try the local electrical – its a small town in the Alps … so a bit of a drive is called for! Shame to have to buy something for just 5 mins and then take over driving it with the iPad – still only myself to blame!
Alan
PS – I assume a download and memory stick based update is not possible?
Ok I’ve just tested this on another iOS device and yes as long as the box and device are on the same network you can use the app as a limited function remote control.
However, to have access to your recordings you need to login to your freesat ID which if you haven’t done so already then you will need the remote control to get the pairing code from the settings menu.
Also how come your box doesn’t have the latest update as it should of done it automatically the last time you used it, unless of coarse you haven’t used it since the update was released?
-gonzo- – 1 hour ago »
Ok I’ve just tested this on another iOS device and yes as long as the box and device are on the same network you can use the app as a limited function remote control.
However, to have access to your recordings you need to login to your freesat ID which if you haven’t done so already then you will need the remote control to get the pairing code from the settings menu.
It is be possible to access recordings using the app as a remote control with the box not paired. Just turn the box off and switch it back on again and wait for the Home Screen, then use the app arrow keys to go down to recordings etc etc.
Reffub – 8 minutes ago »
-gonzo- – 1 hour ago »
Ok I’ve just tested this on another iOS device and yes as long as the box and device are on the same network you can use the app as a limited function remote control.
However, to have access to your recordings you need to login to your freesat ID which if you haven’t done so already then you will need the remote control to get the pairing code from the settings menu.
It is be possible to access recordings using the app as a remote control with the box not paired. Just turn the box off and switch it back on again and wait for the Home Screen, then use the app arrow keys to go down to recordings etc etc.
Ha Ha yes indeed, congratulations you’ve actually found a use for the Homescreen boot up menu
I think we have to give credit where credit is due, Freesat obviously foresaw that their app would have limited basic remote functionality and so they made the box boot to the home screen, very clever of them ! 🙄
Thanks for the updates guys, looks like I’ll still need a remote simply to update the box. I missed the OTA update as I travelled to France around Jan 5th.
Alan
Alan1961 – 13 minutes ago »
Thanks for the updates guys, looks like I’ll still need a remote simply to update the box. I missed the OTA update as I travelled to France around Jan 5th.
Alan
Not necessarily as providing the update is done via the internet it should update itself when you put the box into standby and the next time you turn on it should be updated. If it updates OTA then your out of luck.
The only way you’d know if it has is by looking at the settings menu on the app to see if the box ID shows up under remote control.
-gonzo- – 22 minutes ago »
Alan1961 – 13 minutes ago »
Thanks for the updates guys, looks like I’ll still need a remote simply to update the box. I missed the OTA update as I travelled to France around Jan 5th.
Alan
Not necessarily as providing the update is done via the internet it should update itself when you put the box into standby and the next time you turn on it should be updated. If it updates OTA then your out of luck.
The only way you’d know if it has is by looking at the settings menu on the app to see if the box ID shows up under remote control.
Thanks Gonzo,
I have now had the box “on-net” one night on standby and one night switched on, power booting each morning with no apparent sign that an upgrade has come or not, other than the fact the iPad app cant see it. The clock gets updated so I guess that means it is connected OK. I also know the box is on-line as I can see the IP on the router DHCP listing.
I just don’t think it will auto upgrade over the internet and only does it OTA – the online manual I can find does not go into that kind of detail.
Shame you also need a remote to get to see the SW version!
Alan.
Reffub – 2 days ago »
-gonzo- – 1 hour ago »
Ok I’ve just tested this on another iOS device and yes as long as the box and device are on the same network you can use the app as a limited function remote control.
However, to have access to your recordings you need to login to your freesat ID which if you haven’t done so already then you will need the remote control to get the pairing code from the settings menu.
It is be possible to access recordings using the app as a remote control with the box not paired. Just turn the box off and switch it back on again and wait for the Home Screen, then use the app arrow keys to go down to recordings etc etc.
Many thanks for this suggestion – brilliant!
Although a strange tale and not of any use to anyone else, I thought I’d report a happy ending!
My box did eventually self upgrade over the internet and using the above suggestion I was able to access the full menu system of the box and thus play my recordings.
Many thanks to everyone that contributed.
Much respect
Alan Smith.
PS – As an aside, two areas that could be slightly better …
1) It would be nice if the remote control panel (Arrows, OK button, transport control etc) was accessible from the main screen on the app and also a way into the main menu without having to rely on a power boot. It does not feel that this way in was intentional!
2) I am unable to get the box to request a FreeSat ID and it complains that it is not connected to the net even though the box “Your Settings” … “Network Connection” tells me that I am.
I’m guessing it is because I’m in France.
Still, a good result for now.
Alan1961 – 1 hour ago  »Â
1) It would be nice if the remote control panel (Arrows, OK button, transport control etc) was accessible from the main screen on the app and also a way into the main menu without having to rely on a power boot. It does not feel that this way in was intentional!
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Obviously I was just being sarcastic about the boot to home screen, it has no ‘intentional’ useful purpose, but at least it was of use to your good self.
A full remote control for the app has been requested on the Freesat forum.
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2) I am unable to get the box to request a FreeSat ID and it complains that it is not connected to the net even though the box “Your Settings” … “Network Connection” tells me that I am.
I’m guessing it is because I’m in France.
Still, a good result for now.
The network connection indicates that you are connected to your LAN and that it has acquired an ip address. This is not the same as being able to resolve an ip address from a name server on the internet.
I am also in France and could get a freesat ID.
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