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Humlugb – 7 minutes ago »
I can no longer access anything on the media button, recordings are no longer “taping” ( no red circle despite it showing as recording on the guide) and the data storage option under settings is greyed out
Does anyone know what I can do to try and get it back?My humax is currently not connected to the internet, but could connect it the router if i need to ( but then wont have it connected to the tv).
I am worried that thee hard drive has gone kaput
It could be a problem with the hard drive or it could be that the file system has got corrupted and been made read only. The best way to find out and possibly fix it is with the custom firmware. See the FAQ on this subject: https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/how-to-fix-hard-drive-and-file-system-problems
paulius55 – 1 hour ago »
My signal is strong and very low in errors. Any ideas?. I just had a thought when I typed the last sentence, could the signal be too strong?
Tell us the signal strength and quality as reported by the Humax on the problematic channels. Yes too high a signal strength can be a problem if it overloads the tuners.
Crimsonking – 38 minutes ago »
Inside the 41GB volume there is only one file of any size, named 0.ts which is 3.1GB. Is this a transport stream of some kind? Is this my SD content, if so how can I de-encapsulate it from this file?
That sounds like the recording buffer used for time shifting etc. If the file isn’t encrypted then something like vlc should play it.
ergolargo – 11 minutes ago »
I am still a bit confused about the usage of the ‘ts2hrw’ utility. Does it have a specific use that is relevant to my scenario, and if so, is there a download available on this forum anywhere?
I had forgotten that bit. In recovery mode the .hre file is not copied to the PC (because it is assumed to be corrupt). The ts2hrw is used to recreate them on the PC before copying back. ts2hrw.exe should be in the humaxrw zip file and there is also a README.txt file which answers many of the questions you have asked.
ergolargo – 1 hour ago »
1) Do the restored recordings have their original date and time of recording still displayed, or do all the restored recordings just all get stamped with the same date?
Sorry I can’t remember.
2) Is there any way of editing the names of the restored files as they appear in the newly created recorded list BEFORE the disk is returned into the Humax box, or are they stored in a proprietary file only accessed from within the Humax on-screen ‘remote control’ interface.
I don’t know of a way to do it other than via the Humax interface; it is certainly feasible to do it but nobody has written the software.
3) Is there any evidence that the file corruptions I have been periodically suffering are more likely to be triggered when the disk gets more than 75% full?
All sorts of theories have been put forward for why the file system gets corrupted but I don’t think anyone has done a proper study.
To reduce such a likelihood, I am considering the feasibility of an upgrade to the actual hard disk inside the box. Presumably the drive inside is just a standard old-school IDE hard drive, which as you have already implied could be replaced with a larger drive, if I can still find one anywhere; but are there any particular ‘gotcha’ traps that I should be aware of before attempting such an upgrade, i.e., any specific issues with drive speed etc that are known to cause compatibility problems?
There are compatibility issues with some models of hard drive; I tried a Western Digital AV IDE drive that would not reliably come out of standby. It is a matter of suck it and see. It is possible to use a SATA drive and an IDE to SATA converter. However when you can buy a refurbished HDR-1800T (320GB disk) with a years warranty for £79 I wouldn’t bother with trying to upgrade a 9200T..
ergolargo – 1 hour ago »
“The normal way to do this is copy off the recordings, format, copy them back.”
… what do the recordings look like when they get back on the disk? Is this process alone enough to trigger the recorded list to be rebuilt by the machine?
It is too long since I did it to remember exactly but I think the full titles are gone and it is just the file name but they can of course be edited.
In other words, if the recorded list is gone before the format, is there then nothing that can be done to get the list to reappear?
It seems to me it might be possible to write software to do it but I don’t think anything currently exists. xyz321 is the expert on this and as he has contributed to the thread he might give a definitive view.
Those recovery mode options you mention – it was those I was interpreting as providing a means to create a list – if that’s not what they do, I am a bit unsure as to what recovery mode would actually be used for!?
Without recovery mode you have no way of accessing the program files once the list of programs is lost.
But if there is still no list of items to be selected upon returning the files to a newly formatted disk, I’m not sure I understand the point of the recovery mode options!
There is a list of items when you copy back.
Also, as an aside would you happen to know the standard size of the hard drive inside a PVR 9200T?
160 GB. The 9200T will support larger disks but there is a limit of 512 on the number of recordings so a drive bigger than about 500GB is of limited use.
ergolargo – 1 hour ago »
My step ‘3’ is indeed a bit of a black box, and that is why I am needing to seek advice. I just got the impression that HumaxRW offered a ‘recovery mode’ route to avoid having to do a reformat in these situations, but please feel free to clarify if this is incorrect.
the help for recovery mode says:
“Recovery mode – use if record list is missing/corrupt
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Usage: humaxrw -r [options] HUMAXDISK
-i <list> get info for recordings
-l list recordings
-n no info – use if corruption is really bad
-g <list> get recordings to current directory as recover_nnnn.ts
Example of a list: 10-20,30,41-42″
Nothing I can see about rebuilding the list.
Isn’t correcting the missing list the whole point of extracting the recorded content of the disk after the recorded programs list goes missing?
It would be good if it did but i don’t believe that it does.
In the past, I’ve seen plenty of posts to imply that when the list goes missing (which apparently is a common problem after a Humax box crashes while deleting recordings from the list, as it did in my case), then there is a way to avoid having to reformat by using HumaxRW to fix the logical damage, and get the recorded programs to be listed again.
Could you provide a link to such a post please? By the way I don’t think a crash is the only way for the file system to become corrupt; it is more common for the corruption to gradually develop before the list of programs is lost, most commonly when coming out of standby.
This would suggest that there is a route to automatically recreating the list, or at least to manually repair the damage in some way. If there is simply no way to do what I would need to do, I’ll happily give in, and, like I have plenty of times before, just reformat.
The normal way to do this is copy off the recordings, format, copy them back.
Are the newer models of Humax just as flaky when it comes to managing the recordings?
They are more robust because they use standard Linux file systems. However because the hard drives in PVRs don’t do as much error correction as standard drives then I suspect the risk of corruption is still a bit higher than on a normal computer.
damian – 5 hours ago »
Also it’d be far easier to activate ftp in the humax menu and copy the files over the network to your PC assuming it’s connected (probably around 10x faster).
But without the custom firmware the files will still be encrypted.
Lastly, at some point when you have time, put custom firmware on the HdrFoxT2, it’ll breathe new life into it.
Agreed.
Bulletguy – 24 minutes ago »
when i right click on that to "open"…i then get the second screenshot.
What happens if you just left click on it?
Bulletguy – 1 hour ago »
It copied to the flash drive and yes, it played back (on tv set) from the flash drive, so the file is there.
I don’t know what is going wrong; it does work for me.
ergolargo – 1 hour ago »
3. Regenerate the recording list ‘table of contents’ from this copied data.
What makes you think that step is possible?
Bulletguy – 2 hours ago »
When i go through the pvr menu to “move/copy” it displays that it is copying to the flash drive, but when i plug that in my computer and open it, it’s displaying nothing despite showing almost 2gb has been used!
Are you waiting long enough for the decrypt and copy operation to finish? It is quite slow.
bwizz – 1 hour ago »
Can anyone suggest a solution to my issue ” Box starts to load then get message cust fir 3.02 then crash report and re start!
I would strongly suggest you post the question over at hummy.tv where you are much more likely to attract the attention of the experts on the custom firmware.
CobaltUK – 12 hours ago »
Connected 500gb sata drive to win7 pc and humarw in -r -l shows the 430+ recordings. Though strangely there are 2 recording names given to each one and the -i option indeed describes appropriately the description for both.
This bit I don’t understand what is going on.
I have successfully used the -r -g to move a sample ts file onto pc drive so maybe if all else fails there is some hope to save/watch recordings BUT that has to be a LOT less desirable than somehow getting the drive recording list/index restored to good health if it can be done ???
I think the only way to restore the drive to health will be to copy off all the recordings, then format the drive in the Humax. On a 9200 you could copy the recordings back but this doesn’t work on a 9300.
