Using 2 FVP-5000T's

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  • #20198
    Anonymous
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    If I have 2 FVP-5000’s connected to my home network can I view HD recordings made on box 1 on box 2? Would this be more reliable than using an H3 Espresso which seems to be flakey?

    #88487
    Martin Liddle
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    HughA – 56 minutes ago  » 

    If I have 2 FVP-5000’s connected to my home network can I view HD recordings made on box 1 on box 2?

    Good question and I would also like to know the answer. You can play HD content from an HDR_FOX T2 on a FVP-5000T over the network (which must mean that the FVP-5000T supports DTCP) so I think there is a reasonable chance. However you can’t play FVP-5000T HD content on an HDR-FOX T2 but I wonder if this might be because the FVP requires a later version of the DTCP protocol.

    Would this be more reliable than using an H3 Espresso which seems to be flakey?

    If it works, I would expect it to be better.

    #88488
    Anonymous
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    HughA – 12 hours ago  » If I have 2 FVP-5000’s connected to my home network can I view HD recordings made on box 1 on box 2?

    Almost certainly not.

    The licencing means that HD recordings are tied to the motherboard which recorded them.

    SD recordings are not so tied and can be viewed on other boxes.

    Why not try it and find out for yourself?

    #88489
    Anonymous
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    Don’t know about the 5000T, but my two 4000Ts will play each other’s recordings (SD & HD) over my network.

    Also my HD FoxT2 (with custom firmware) and Samsung TV (UE50MU6120K) will both play HD recordings from either 4000T

    HTH

    #88490
    grahamlthompson
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    JohnH77 – 9 hours ago  » 

    HughA – 12 hours ago  » If I have 2 FVP-5000’s connected to my home network can I view HD recordings made on box 1 on box 2?

    Almost certainly not.

    The licencing means that HD recordings are tied to the motherboard which recorded them.

    SD recordings are not so tied and can be viewed on other boxes.

    Why not try it and find out for yourself?

    Two HDR-Fox-T2’s can as both have a dtcp ip dlna client and server. As you can view all 5000T recordings on a hdr-Fox-T2 a 5000T must at least have the server only the client is in doubt.

    https://www.webopedia.com/TERM/D/DTCP_IP.html

    I imagine the op only has one and is contemplating buying a second.

    #88491
    grahamlthompson
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    pigolato – 19 minutes ago  » 

    Don’t know about the 5000T, but my two 4000Ts will play each other’s recordings (SD & HD) over my network.

    Also my HD FoxT2 (with custom firmware) and Samsung TV (UE50MU6120K) will both play HD recordings from either 4000T

    HTH

    As the boxes share the same software (the label on the motherboard of my early 5000T says it’s a 4000T. Seems pretty certain the 5000T can also do this.

    #88492
    Martin Liddle
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    pigolato – 5 hours ago  » 

    Also my HD FoxT2 (with custom firmware) and Samsung TV (UE50MU6120K) will both play HD recordings from either 4000T

    Please can you explain the steps you are taking to play HD content from the 4000T on an HD-FOX T2? I can play SD content from an FVP-5000T without problem via DLNA. HD content is shown in the media list with an icon that looks like a segment of camera file with superimposed on top a red circle with a white diagonal line through it (which I take to be a no entry sign); attempts to play the HD content results in a ‘Cannot support this file format” error message. What am I doing wrong or what are you doing differently?

    #88493
    Martin Liddle
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    grahamlthompson – 4 hours ago  » 

    As you can view all 5000T recordings on a hdr-Fox-T2 a 5000T must at least have the server only the client is in doubt.

    Can you actually play FVP-5000T HD content on an HDR-FOX T2?

    #88494
    Anonymous
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    Thanks for all the replies. I want to play HD recordings made on my FVP-5000T in another room and thought a 2nd FVP-5000T might be a better solution than an H3 Espresso. A refurbished FVP-4000T at £139 might be an affordable solution.

    #88495
    Anonymous
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    #88496
    Anonymous
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    The FVP 5000T manual says it is possible – see page 15

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    I wonder how it works? Assume Humax_1 has a program Fred stored on it. Humax_1 is connected to TV_1.

    Humax_2 is connected to TV_2.

    If I use Humax_2, I can see Fred on Humax_1 and I can ask for Fred to be played on TV_2.

    What happens?

    Is the stored data on Humax_1 sent to Humax_2 where it is processed by Humax_2 (un-encoded/) and Humax_2 sends it to TV_2?

    Or is the stored data on Humax_1 processed by Humax_1 (un-encoded?) and sent direct to TV_2 such that it is not processed by Humax_2?

    #88497
    Anonymous
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    Martin Liddle – 1 hour ago  » 

    pigolato – 5 hours ago  » 

    Also my HD FoxT2 (with custom firmware) and Samsung TV (UE50MU6120K) will both play HD recordings from either 4000T

    Please can you explain the steps you are taking to play HD content from the 4000T on an HD-FOX T2? I can play SD content from an FVP-5000T without problem via DLNA. HD content is shown in the media list with an icon that looks like a segment of camera file with superimposed on top a red circle with a white diagonal line through it (which I take to be a no entry sign); attempts to play the HD content results in a ‘Cannot support this file format” error message. What am I doing wrong or what are you doing differently?

    Firstly, to be clear, I am using the HD FOX T2, not the HDR FOXT2.

    It has the custom firmware package installed.

    To play the recordings from either of the networked 4000Ts (I have two), I press the Media button on the remote, change to Network with the blue button, and a list of servers appears, including the two 4000Ts.

    Selecting either of these takes you to the My Contents folder, then the Recordings folder. Each recording has a filmstrip icon, with a “no entry” icon superimposed, like you are seeing.

    Selecting the recording then gives “connecting” then “processing” then the recording plays.

    I was as surprised as you that it works, and I haven’t done anything specifically to enable HD playback. I have some extra packages installed with the custom firmware, specifically “auto-unprotect” and “chase-decrypt” which may be involved in HD playback decryption, I don’t know.

    #88498
    Martin Liddle
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    pigolato – 2 hours ago  » 

    Firstly, to be clear, I am using the HD FOX T2, not the HDR FOXT2.

    It has the custom firmware package installed.

    To play the recordings from either of the networked 4000Ts (I have two), I press the Media button on the remote, change to Network with the blue button, and a list of servers appears, including the two 4000Ts.

    Selecting either of these takes you to the My Contents folder, then the Recordings folder. Each recording has a filmstrip icon, with a “no entry” icon superimposed, like you are seeing.

    Selecting the recording then gives “connecting” then “processing” then the recording plays.

    Well that is interesting. I have no idea why that works for you and not for me but yes I am using an HDR-FOX T2. What Humax software version is your box using?

    I was as surprised as you that it works, and I haven’t done anything specifically to enable HD playback. I have some extra packages installed with the custom firmware, specifically “auto-unprotect” and “chase-decrypt” which may be involved in HD playback decryption, I don’t know.

    They will only work on local content and not content being played by DLNA.

    #88499
    Anonymous
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    Software details:

    Web interface version: 1.4.4-1

    Custom firmware version: 3.03 (build 2368)

    Humax Version: 1.03.02 (kernel HD_1.03.02)

    Loader Version: L7.27

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