Triax output (SCART) and HDMI

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  • #15766
    Anonymous
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    I have a HDR 1000 and wish to connect up the local telly, via the HDMI output of the Humax box and, *at the same time* utilise the SCART output to send a Triax (RF) modulated output to TVs in other parts of my house. My question is: Can I connect up the scart without losing signal via HDMI?

    #52712
    grahamlthompson
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    Yes – all the outputs are active at the same time. You don’t have to use the scart, the box has CVBS (Yellow) and Stereo Audio (Red/White) RCA Phono outputs.

    #52713
    Anonymous
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    Sorry to hijack this thread, but I have a similar – maybe even the same – question. With my Sky+ box, I utilise the RF out to feed an unpowered box in my loft, which then feeds a couple of TV’s around the house via ordinary TV aerial coax. If the Sky box is turned off, all the connected TVs can still receive the FTA channels, however if I unplug the Sky box they can’t. When I completely remove the Sky+ box will the solution mentioned here do the same? Thank you.

    #52714
    grahamlthompson
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    Firstly are sure the box in the loft is unpowered ? A Sky box RF2 out provides 9V power for magic eyes and a suitable amplifier. Easy test unplug the aerial from the sky box rf in socket and connect it to the cable connected to rf2 out. If the remote TV’s still work you need a splitter like this one to feed your local TV and the remote loft box.

    http://www.screwfix.com/p/labgear-2-way-splitter-with-power-pass-all-ports/99105

    Do you use magic eyes to remotely control the Sky box ?

    #52715
    Anonymous
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    Hi Graham,

    Thanks for the reply. Yep, the loft box is not powered by anything other than the power from the Sky+ RF out socket. Coax from the Sky+ RF out goes up to the loft and into the box, the box then has four connections to allow you to run coax elsewhere (I think we’re using two at the mo). We can watch what’s showing on the Sky+ box but rarely do, we generally just use this to allow each TV connected to the loft box to pick up the freeview channels (which they won’t if you unplug the Sky+ box). It appears that once I lose the Sky+ box I’ll lose this unless the Scart connector on the back of the Humax can somehow help. I had to go in to the Sky+ box installer’s menu to enable the RF out socket to work when I set this up. We don’t have any Magic Eye in the loop.

    #52716
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    Hoops – 2 hours ago  » 

    Hi Graham,

    Thanks for the reply. Yep, the loft box is not powered by anything other than the power from the Sky+ RF out socket. Coax from the Sky+ RF out goes up to the loft and into the box, the box then has four connections to allow you to run coax elsewhere (I think we’re using two at the mo). We can watch what’s showing on the Sky+ box but rarely do, we generally just use this to allow each TV connected to the loft box to pick up the freeview channels (which they won’t if you unplug the Sky+ box). It appears that once I lose the Sky+ box I’ll lose this unless the Scart connector on the back of the Humax can somehow help. I had to go in to the Sky+ box installer’s menu to enable the RF out socket to work when I set this up. We don’t have any Magic Eye in the loop.

    Are you going to replace the Sky box with another pvr (Freeview or Freesat) ? If so the Triax Tri-link unit will provide the power and also allow remote control of the new box if you add some magic eyes at the remote TV’s.

    Depending on how good a signal you have you may be able to simply swap the loft box for a passive splitter.

    #52717
    Anonymous
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    Hi Graham, thanks for the reply and sorry for taking ages to answer (I work away from home). The 1010s is the replacement for the Sky+ box but I can’t get shot of the Sky+ box just yet as we have a subscription to BT Sport to watch MotoGP :wink:. Anyway, when that subscription runs out the Sky+ box will be going leaving me with just the 1010s. In anticipation of that I’m trying to sort out how other TVs around the house can continue getting a signal – as I said, at the moment this is achieved by using the RF out of the Sky+ box which, via ordinary coax antenna cabling, goes straight to a distribution box in my loft – which is definitely unpowered 😉 This then goes to other TVs around the house, via the same type of coax, which will allow them to pick up a signal to tune into the Freeview channels. If I unplug the Sky+ box from the power, the TVs connected via this distribution box do not receive a signal and we cannot watch anything on them. What I’m trying to find out is will the scart on the back of the 1010s be able to reproduce this? So, if I can get some sort of scart to RF adapter, I can plug the existing coax cable into this and still allow the TVs connected by the distribution box in my loft to get a signal. Is this right?

    I don’t need to use Magic Eyes at all – if we can watch the 1010s channel it’s currently on with this setup that’s a bonus but not a necessity.

    Sorry for the War & Peace post, just trying to explain myself better.

    Thanks, Hoops.

    #52718
    Anonymous
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    Hi Hoops,

    Yes. I can confirm the SCART output on your HDR 1010 box will produce the 9V output. I would suggest you purchase the following (copy these expressions into an Amazon search window):

    TRIAX TRI-LINK Kit Control Sky, Freesat, Freeview around the home.

    along with (to boost the signal if needed)

    TRIAX 334035 ” AMPLIFIER- 4 WAY 1 INPUT”-(TV Accessory)

    plus these adapters, which are essential

    F Plug Male to Coax Socket Female Adaptor x 5 by electrosmart®

    (I have discovered everything relies upon robust connection!!)

    Feel free to update the post and I’ll help you in any way I can

    #52719
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    Grime – 21 minutes ago  » 

    Hi Hoops,

    Yes. I can confirm the SCART output on your HDR 1010 box will produce the 9V output. I would suggest you purchase the following (copy these expressions into an Amazon search window):

    TRIAX TRI-LINK Kit Control Sky, Freesat, Freeview around the home.

    along with (to boost the signal if needed)

    TRIAX 334035 ” AMPLIFIER- 4 WAY 1 INPUT”-(TV Accessory)

    plus these adapters, which are essential

    F Plug Male to Coax Socket Female Adaptor x 5 by electrosmart®

    (I have discovered everything relies upon robust connection!!)

    Feel free to update the post and I’ll help you in any way I can

    There’s no 9V output from a scart socket. The Triax tri-link modulator provides the 9V supply. The scart merely provides Composite Video (CVBS) and Stereo Analogue audi. The same signals are available from the Yellow Red and White RCA phono output sockets. You don’t need the F to Belling Lee converters, simply fit a f connector directly to the coax where a connection to a f socket is required. They are very simple to fit, lots of instructions on the internet.

    #52720
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    yep quite right it is the triax box which generates the 9v output. My mistake there :P

    I suggested getting the adapters as it is simple matter to fit them (2 seconds) and the cost is so slight compared to half an hour’s work fitting f-type connectors (which you will have to buy anyway :P) But the principle of reducing your number of connection points is still a good one and maybe over-archs my own suggestion.

    #52721
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    Grime – 26 minutes ago  » 

    yep quite right it is the triax box which generates the 9v output. My mistake there :P

    I suggested getting the adapters as it is simple matter to fit them (2 seconds) and the cost is so slight compared to half an hour’s work fitting f-type connectors (which you will have to buy anyway :P) But the principle of reducing your number of connection points is still a good one and maybe over-archs my own suggestion.

    Takes about a minute to fit a f connector and it’s a better match to the 75ohm coax cable. Belling Lee connectors were originally designed for radio (1922) where the frequencies used are much lower so the impedance mismatch is less of an issue.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_aerial_plug

    #52722
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thanks both for your posts, but I’m now a bit confused (yes I know, like I wasn’t before lol). So what is it exactly I need? Essentially I ‘ll have a piece of coax that I need to plug in somewhere (currently in the back of the Sky+ box – RF out) so all I’m interested in really is being able to plug it in somewhere so it can distribute the FTA channels via the loft box so they can be picked up by any other connected TVs. I think that makes sense….!

    Thanks again :-)

    #52723
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    If you buy the triax tr-link unit, it has the same coax sockets as your Sky box. You take the aerial in cable from the Sky box aerial in (RF In) and connect it to the the TRiax-Tri Link aerial in. You disconnect the coax connected to the Sky box rf1 out (connects to local TV) and connect it to the tribox rf1 out socket. You disconnect the cable connected to the Skybox rf2 out (the feed to the loft amplifier) and connect it to the Tri-linkrf2 out.

    You connect the tri-link scart socket to the Humax scart socket (alternatively use a scart to phono adaptor on the tri-link set to input, and connect using three phono cables to the output sockets on the Humax). Connect an Infra red repeater to the Tri-link and place the other end near the Humax ir window. Set the tri-link to output on the same uhf channel as your Sky-Link uses (Normal default is UHF 68 I believe).

    That’s it everthing should now work as it did before. Any magic eyes you have should control the Humax using a Humax remote control.

    #52724
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Awesome, thanks for that, and making it easy to follow :-) I don’t need to do this yet as I have a BT Sport sub via the Sky+ box, once that’s finished the swap will be complete!

    Many thanks.

    #52725
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    After doing some more reading, just a thought – as I’m not interested in viewing what’s currently on the 1010s, only allowing the other TVs to tune to a Freeview signal, do I actually need to connect the scart connections on a Tri-Link box? Can I just connect the aerial cables (coax) and power it up, allowing the TVs in other rooms to receive a signal? Sorry for all the questions, but as you’ve probably released this isn’t an area that makes a lot of sense to me!

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