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December 8, 2013 at 12:22 pm #15180
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InactiveI have been increasingly using my Foxsat box for recording movies as the 1010s picture is a lot less sharp. Is there something I can do to improve the 1010s picture quality?
December 8, 2013 at 12:46 pm #48401grahamlthompson
ParticipantThat’s very strange the G2 boxes produce very sharp pictures (Slightly better than the Foxsats).
Check in Settings/Picture and Sound you have Resolution set to 1080i or 1080p.
December 8, 2013 at 2:40 pm #48402Anonymous
InactiveIt’s the same with my HB-1000S. Resolution set to 1080i.
December 8, 2013 at 2:42 pm #48403Anonymous
InactiveJamesB – 1 minute ago »
It’s the same with my HB-1000S. Resolution set to 1080i.
How connected HDMI? What TV?
December 8, 2013 at 3:11 pm #48404grahamlthompson
ParticipantJamesB – 30 minutes ago »
It’s the same with my HB-1000S. Resolution set to 1080i.
Compared to a Foxsat-hdr like the OP ?
December 8, 2013 at 3:13 pm #48405Anonymous
InactiveThe TV is a 2012 Samsung UE32ES5500, Picture Mode is set to Movie for all inputs (HDR-2000T, YouView, and the HB-1000S. The picture quality is excellent on the Freeview boxes, and on the TV’s own Freeview tuner. This did make me wonder if maybe it’s just down to a difference in picture between DTT and Freesat?
The HB-1000S is connected to the TV by HDMI. The satellite feed is an ancient Sky mini-dish.
December 8, 2013 at 3:25 pm #48406Anonymous
InactiveJamesB – 7 minutes ago »
……. This did make me wonder if maybe it’s just down to a difference in picture between DTT and Freesat?
The HB-1000S is connected to the TV by HDMI. The satellite feed is an ancient Sky mini-dish.
The actual picture quality can vary by channel with some commercial broadcasters using low bit rates to economise and fit more channels onto a transponder. Compare the quality on say BBC HD which should be about the same as DTT.
December 8, 2013 at 3:48 pm #48407Anonymous
InactiveYes, comparing the same HD channel.
December 8, 2013 at 3:56 pm #48408grahamlthompson
ParticipantJamesB – 32 minutes ago »
The TV is a 2012 Samsung UE32ES5500, Picture Mode is set to Movie for all inputs (HDR-2000T, YouView, and the HB-1000S. The picture quality is excellent on the Freeview boxes, and on the TV’s own Freeview tuner. This did make me wonder if maybe it’s just down to a difference in picture between DTT and Freesat?
The HB-1000S is connected to the TV by HDMI. The satellite feed is an ancient Sky mini-dish.
Channel 5 is dire on satellite, the result of channel 5 only using a single transponder for the full complement of channels.
Freeview-HD is able to use 1080p25 for content produced in progressive format, because the Freeview specification allowed for this from day one. This can produce better pictures for some content.
Satellite receivers in general don’t support progressive signals so progressive source signals have to be interlaced and transmitted as 1080i.
Your TV will de-interlace 1080i for display and therefore the TV itself can effect how interlaced signals look compared to native progressive content.
I also think that the BBC HD channels do look a bit better from the HDR FOX T2 compared to the same source on a satellite box, most likely down to the use of progressive transmission.
This of course should not affect the picture quality comparing a Foxsat-HDR with a <freetime> box.
Most TV’s allow different settings for each input. I would investigate using different settings for the HB1000s port. In general start by turning off so called picture enhancing options like Noise Reduction, Movie Mode etc.
December 8, 2013 at 4:03 pm #48409Anonymous
InactiveJamesB – 35 minutes ago »
The TV is a 2012 Samsung UE32ES5500, Picture Mode is set to Movie for all inputs (HDR-2000T, YouView, and the HB-1000S. The picture quality is excellent on the Freeview boxes, and on the TV’s own Freeview tuner. This did make me wonder if maybe it’s just down to a difference in picture between DTT and Freesat?
The HB-1000S is connected to the TV by HDMI. The satellite feed is an ancient Sky mini-dish.
I did notice on my 2009 samsung that with SD the TVs internal Freeview tuner looked slightly better quality than SD on some identical satellite channels.
Rather than just relying on the picture modes alone, have you tried calibrating your tv to get the best out of the device connected to that particular HDMI input?
December 8, 2013 at 4:08 pm #48410Anonymous
InactiveThe resolution is set to 1080i and there is no choice as the cell is greyed out and the cursor does not allow entry.
December 8, 2013 at 4:25 pm #48411Anonymous
InactiveUnique listener – 14 minutes ago »
The resolution is set to 1080i and there is no choice as the cell is greyed out and the cursor does not allow entry.
Surely your able to change settings such as contrast,brightness,colour and whatever else maybe under picture options?
Have a read through the following link and possibly try what others have done and then just tweek if need be. http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1778974
December 8, 2013 at 4:34 pm #48412Anonymous
Inactivegrahamlthompson – 31 minutes ago »
Freeview-HD is able to use 1080p25 for content produced in progressive format, because the Freeview specification allowed for this from day one. This can produce better pictures for some content.
Satellite receivers in general don’t support progressive signals so progressive source signals have to be interlaced and transmitted as 1080i.
Your TV will de-interlace 1080i for display and therefore the TV itself can effect how interlaced signals look compared to native progressive content.
I also think that the BBC HD channels do look a bit better from the HDR FOX T2 compared to the same source on a satellite box, most likely down to the use of progressive transmission.
This of course should not affect the picture quality comparing a Foxsat-HDR with a <freetime> box.
Most TV’s allow different settings for each input. I would investigate using different settings for the HB1000s port. In general start by turning off so called picture enhancing options like Noise Reduction, Movie Mode etc.
Maybe that’s the explanation – progressive transmission. Thanks, I’m glad to know of a possible cause.
I’ve experimented with the picture options but without success. I’ll have another go.
Thanks again.
December 8, 2013 at 4:41 pm #48413Anonymous
Inactive-gonzo- – 34 minutes ago »
I did notice on my 2009 samsung that with SD the TVs internal Freeview tuner looked slightly better quality than SD on some identical satellite channels.
Rather than just relying on the picture modes alone, have you tried calibrating your tv to get the best out of the device connected to that particular HDMI input?
Can the individual HDMI input make a difference? I hadn’t thought of that. I’ll try changing it, and changing the lead. And have another go with the options.
Thanks.
December 8, 2013 at 5:04 pm #48414Anonymous
InactiveJamesB – 18 minutes ago »
-gonzo- – 34 minutes ago »
I did notice on my 2009 samsung that with SD the TVs internal Freeview tuner looked slightly better quality than SD on some identical satellite channels.
Rather than just relying on the picture modes alone, have you tried calibrating your tv to get the best out of the device connected to that particular HDMI input?
Can the individual HDMI input make a difference? I hadn’t thought of that. I’ll try changing it, and changing the lead. And have another go with the options.
Thanks.
Today’s TVs are not like old crt’s where once calibrated that setting is used for every device connected.
I wouldn’t worry about changing ports or changing leads, just some calibration is likely to be needed.
With your tv each seperate HDMI,scart,component port and internal tuner has it own individual settings so it’s well worth calibrating each port with a device connected to get the very best out of them.
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