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Relatively new user with a couple of questions:-
1/ Should this recorder be able to identify unscheduled program changes, we tend to be getting one or two now where we are missing either the beginning or the back end of the recording due to a shift in the broadcasting times.
2/ On occassion a planned recording has been substituted with another program, the first time we find out is when we come to play the planned recording, is this correct or should the machine know?
Maybe we are expecting to much from the recorder.
Hulme – 1 hour ago »
1/ Should this recorder be able to identify unscheduled program changes, we tend to be getting one or two now where we are missing either the beginning or the back end of the recording due to a shift in the broadcasting times.
Yes it should but it does depend on the broadcaster updating the meta data. Could you provide examples of programmes where you have had problems?
2/ On occassion a planned recording has been substituted with another program, the first time we find out is when we come to play the planned recording, is this correct or should the machine know?
Again the recorder can distinguish providing the meta data has been updated. Again please provide specific examples when asking this sort of question.
Check you have NOT got padding turned on.
For the last 7-10 days, almost all of my recordings from BBC channels have been truncated by varying degrees. Clearly a broadcaster error again.
Sorry for the initial lack of information regarding the actual programs involved.
On Sunday the 16th December 2018 we were set to record the series of the apprentice on both the FVR 5000T and our upstairs Humax DTR T1010, however the previous program “Sports Personality of The Year” ran over, probably due to Brexit. When we played the recording we got 1/2hr of Sports Personality and 1/2hr of the Apprentice on the FVR 5000T, whereas our upstairs recorder the Humax DTR-T1010 500gb model actually reset the programming so we were able to watch the full hour of the Apprentice.
On the 6th December 2018 we had set to record the series of Oxford Street on Channel 5. This would have been 2 of 4. The FVR 5000T recorded this with the title Oxford Street but when played the recording was about a Ship!!.
Thanks for the responses, I will just have to check the instructions to determine what the padding feature is.
Sound like you have got the 5000 set to manual timer or with padding?
I believe that if you have padding, it ignores the broadcasters start and end ‘flags’
Padding is when you deliberately set the recorder to start recording (say) 5 mins before the scheduled start time. The box then just does as it’s been told to do. If the programme slips, as in your first example, the box doesn’t give a toss and just starts recording at the time set (5 mins before scheduled time)
Thanks for explaining the term padding, but no, I can say that all our programming is set direct from the guide on the television display.
Hulme – 1 hour ago »
Thanks for explaining the term padding, but no, I can say that all our programming is set direct from the guide on the television display.
Your FVP-5000T is capable of dauto-padding. If this is switched on in settings then programming “set direct from the guide on the television display” will behave as you describe.
On my copy of the manual the relevant description is in ‘PVR Settings’ on page GB29.
If this option has been activated then what you describe will continue until either you change the setting, or you reset the machine to defaults.
The section includes a warning that the broadcast “Accurate recording” will be overridden when either padding option is set within the setting menu.
What Luke is saying is if you have set start and end times to anything other than auto, the broadcaster cannot adjust your recording start and stop times if the actual times deviate from the original scheduled times.
Auto is the default so you must have altered the settings yourself.
Most likely thinking it would stop recordings being cutoff, It may do so for some channels that do not use accurate recording. For most it’s the opposite of what you should use.
Fortunately or unfortunately whichever way you look at it, I checked the PVR settings for the first time since we got the recorder and it was set to AUTO, which I take it is right! Presumably therefore something else is amiss!
Hulme – 17 hours ago »
On Sunday the 16th December 2018 we were set to record the series of the apprentice on both the FVR 5000T and our upstairs Humax DTR T1010, however the previous program “Sports Personality of The Year” ran over, probably due to Brexit. When we played the recording we got 1/2hr of Sports Personality and 1/2hr of the Apprentice on the FVR 5000T, whereas our upstairs recorder the Humax DTR-T1010 500gb model actually reset the programming so we were able to watch the full hour of the Apprentice.
We saw similar behaviour on our FVP-5000T. It is hard to say whether this is a failing of the FVP-5000T or whether the Freeview data wasn’t updated quickly enough. Interesting that the Youview data (as used by the DTR-T1010) was correct.
On the 6th December 2018 we had set to record the series of Oxford Street on Channel 5. This would have been 2 of 4. The FVR 5000T recorded this with the title Oxford Street but when played the recording was about a Ship!!.
Anybody else have this happen?
Thanks for the responses, I will just have to check the instructions to determine what the padding feature is.
Leave it on the Auto setting.
Just for completeness, my wife now tells me that our FVP-5000 actually recorded again the episode of tHe Apprentice that it initially failed to adjust the program times on , but a day or two later on The Welsh channel.
So its obviously quite bright but the DTR-T1010 had the better approach which would avoid planned programming problems when catering for an unplanned repeat from the Welsh Channel!
Will be interesting to find out the true cause of the two issues and if the 5000T should be able to deal with these!
I too (and others) had the same issues with The Apprentice recording after SPOTY overran on my 5000t (there is a topic about on it on here).
I have the 4000T and have been having this problem for quite a while in fact it has happened on many occasions in the 3 years I have had it
The most recent ones being BBC 4 Saturday evenings programme Sinner two back to back 40 minute programmes slight delay to broadcast time resulted in the last couple minutes being missed
Recently Eggheads on BBC 2 in the afternoon delayed by about 15 to 20 minute start due to overrun of sport programme (started at due time) finished recording before the end of eggheads (missed the final round of questions)
If i had diligently kept a log of all such discrepancies it would run to several pages
I have always left padding to AUTO
Unfortunately like my old Toppy like me has been showing signs of it’s age but it did at least record programmes and find the programmes scheduled
For absolute clarity, everyone has been most helpful, but at the end of the day there does not appear to be an answer to my questions. Padding was probably the obvious one, but it is set on Auto. Does this mean there is then something wrong with my 5000 or is the machine not really up to dealing with these problems.
If theres something wrong with the machine it is under warranty and I will then have it addressed.
But again thanks to everyone who responded, I am extremely grateful.
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