Visionman – 1 hour ago  » 

User reaction –

There are many forums/fora regarding YouView and these are –

Digital Spy – a general user forum which has surprisingly had mostly positive comments.

The BT Community Forum – A mixture of comments, from those that like it to those that don’t. The general mood is calm.

The TalkTalk Community Forum – as above.

And now we come to the Main YouView Community Forum.

This once calm & reasoned place, a central hub for many users (who choose to dip in & out of it) has now gone absolutely BA-LLISTIC in and with the intensity of users comments, most of whom are new and have registered only with the specific purpose of complaining. Many of which are WAAAY over the top and disproportionate to the ‘crime’ many think has been committed.

The Community forum has up to now had calls to go rushing to various organisations some of which include –

The national newspapers, the BBC, the European Court of Human Rights (no, really), the Citizens Advice Bureau, Ofcom and Trading Standards.

Now can anyone think of a reasoned explanation as to why The Community forum has suffered such a disproportion [negative] reaction to NextGen, compared to all the others?

Yes, although not a contributor on that forum I have read some of those OTT posts myself. I didn’t know whether I should laugh or cry after reading some of the dire tribes.

My first thought was the world has gone completely mad. On reflection I think many of those contributors simply need to get a life.

It was disrupted on Sunday evening due to a BT Accurate Recording failure leading to a loss of 30 minutes which just happened to be the last 2/3 of the main race. Does NextGen fix that?

I *did* record the programme straight afterwards as I always for live sports coverage. But the live coverage recording stopped at 8pm as originally scheduled but the following recording did not start until 8:30pm even though it was originally scheduled to start at 8pm. Yet more proof the broadcasters cannot be trusted to get Accurate Recording right when it really matters and Youview should be allowing us to set fixed time hammock recordings which I do on my other PVRs and which has never caused me to lose coverage.

Faust – 33 minutes ago  » 

I have to comment I don’t think in over 15 years of using a PVR I have ever used a manual fixed time recording or needed to use padding either. Therefore speaking for myself they are options that could be discontinued from every PVR on the market and I wouldn’t miss them given I’ve never used them.

I’m assuming this protracted rollout is being done via Internet and not OTA. If I am to take the BT email as gospel then it will have taken them 3 months to rollout an update to 1.3 million subscribers – surely a record? 😳

I imagine that’s down to your recording choices. No issue with the main channels, try some of the other channels that don’t even implement accurate recording or make a complete dogs dinner of it. Channel 5 used to regulary screw up the recording crid’s. This resulted in moving a lunchtime recording schedule to the evening where it created a recording clash. For a long time the only way to avoid this was a manual recording with a repeat pattern. Others regulary don’t stick to the scheduled times and regulary create truncated recordings.

The Custom Firmware on the HDR-FOX-T2 offers the best solution, you can mix accurate recordings and padding even using series recording.

grahamlthompson

I imagine that’s down to your recording choices. No issue with the main channels, try some of the other channels that don’t even implement accurate recording or make a complete dogs dinner of it. Channel 5 used to regulary screw up the recording crid’s. This resulted in moving a lunchtime recording schedule to the evening where it created a recording clash. For a long time the only way to avoid this was a manual recording with a repeat pattern. Others regulary don’t stick to the scheduled times and regulary create truncated recordings.

The Custom Firmware on the HDR-FOX-T2 offers the best solution, you can mix accurate recordings and padding even using series recording.

I’ve got news for you, Channel 5 are still cocking up accurate record. I noticed at lunchtime today that GPs behind closed doors was recording and the schedule record stated Channel 5+1 episode 1.

Well we are actually on episode 25 and it should record this evening on Channel 5 at 20:00 hrs. I just waited until the recording period had finished, then deleted the recording entry and re-entered it again for tonight. This always seems to work though you have to be aware of it in order to correct C5s errors.

Visionman – 2 hours ago  » 

Graham>

“The Custom Firmware on the HDR-FOX-T2 offers the best solution, you can mix accurate recordings and padding even using series recording.”

Going on that ‘Eh, I remember when…’ trip again Graham?

You know, where criticism of a YouView box is concerned, these old SD boxes always get thrown up. Oh, and lets not forget the Toppy!

Being serious though, these boxes were (are?) excellent in the bells and whistles custom firmware department. Which is clearly not the YouView products target market as, lets face it, its just a basic box meant for mass market consumption. And the current Humax roll out of NextGen software isn’t going to change that.

Faust – I believe its now 1.5m boxes and yes, the Humax roll out is being distributed over the internet, not OTA.

There’s something wrong with your memory. The HDR-FOX-T2 is a twin tuner DVB-T2 HD Freeview+ box with built in DLNA IP protected DLNA server and client, and it sold at much the same price as a Youview box so is in your words a mass market device. Arguably by far the best Freeview+ HD pvr if you aren’t that bothered about catch up services.

grahamlthompson – 43 minutes ago  » 

Visionman – 2 hours ago  » 

Graham>

“The Custom Firmware on the HDR-FOX-T2 offers the best solution, you can mix accurate recordings and padding even using series recording.”

Going on that ‘Eh, I remember when…’ trip again Graham?

You know, where criticism of a YouView box is concerned, these old SD boxes always get thrown up. Oh, and lets not forget the Toppy!

Being serious though, these boxes were (are?) excellent in the bells and whistles custom firmware department. Which is clearly not the YouView products target market as, lets face it, its just a basic box meant for mass market consumption. And the current Humax roll out of NextGen software isn’t going to change that.

Faust – I believe its now 1.5m boxes and yes, the Humax roll out is being distributed over the internet, not OTA.

There’s something wrong with your memory. The HDR-FOX-T2 is a twin tuner DVB-T2 HD Freeview+ box with built in DLNA IP protected DLNA server and client, and it sold at much the same price as a Youview box so is in your words a mass market device. Arguably by far the best Freeview+ HD pvr if you aren’t that bothered about catch up services.

Thing is though Graham as good as it was, it’s unlikely we’ll ever see its like again in future PVRs. Again as I posted earlier in this thread it’s all about broadcasters protecting their rights these days so whatever gets produced now is inevitably hobbled.

I suppose we have piracy to thank for that.