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February 5, 2021 at 12:21 pm #99422
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InactiveMars – 20 hours ago »
Barry – 1 hour ago »
Mars – 20 mins ago »
Has there been a new (small) update dated 29th January?
Yep small update to the application version.
For example, in the record and share menu you will note entry ‘Mobile App’ and on selecting displays QR codes for the app stores.
This may be a coincidence, but the problem I had with varying signal quality on ARQ muxes seems to have gone. I restarted the box after the update and set up three recordings on channels on ARQ A, B and SDN muxes, and kept half an eye on the signal quality for a while and it remained at 100% throughout. I will keep my fingers crossed that this continues given that this was only a small update. Another thing that seems to have disappeared is picture-in-picture!
This small update does not seem to be the solution.
February 5, 2021 at 2:29 pm #99423Anonymous
InactiveKieth – 3 days ago »
Finchy313 – 9 mins ago »
Yep, that worked, I can FTP in now, thank you!
I was hoping to get access to more, specifically the Android/Data folder (so I can manage Kodi files, config and paylists from my laptop), but it seems they’re only giving access to media related docs. I’ll see if I can move the files with a file manager on the box. Better than no access though I guess!
Great. If you find out the purpose of the upload dir in recordings let me know. It has a text file there saying ‘Upload your recordings here and you can restore them.’ I cannot see how to ‘restore’ them so that Aura can play them.
I found that if I downloaded a recorded file in it’s original format (SD or HD) and then deleted it from the Aura’s front end, if I then re-uploaded it to the “Uploads” directory it was processed by the Aura automatically and added back into the front end view of Recordings etc (along with a converted version).
So I think that is the functionality – in theory allowing you to archive off recordings from a “full” Aura and reinstate them at a later date.
February 5, 2021 at 3:50 pm #99424Anonymous
Inactivelarkim – 1 hour ago »
Kieth – 3 days ago »
Finchy313 – 9 mins ago »
Yep, that worked, I can FTP in now, thank you!
I was hoping to get access to more, specifically the Android/Data folder (so I can manage Kodi files, config and paylists from my laptop), but it seems they’re only giving access to media related docs. I’ll see if I can move the files with a file manager on the box. Better than no access though I guess!
Great. If you find out the purpose of the upload dir in recordings let me know. It has a text file there saying ‘Upload your recordings here and you can restore them.’ I cannot see how to ‘restore’ them so that Aura can play them.
I found that if I downloaded a recorded file in it’s original format (SD or HD) and then deleted it from the Aura’s front end, if I then re-uploaded it to the “Uploads” directory it was processed by the Aura automatically and added back into the front end view of Recordings etc (along with a converted version).
So I think that is the functionality – in theory allowing you to archive off recordings from a “full” Aura and reinstate them at a later date.
Thanks for that. I didn’t try to put back an Aura recorded file. Clever if it manages to reinstate an HD file as they are ‘encrypted’ and not playable off the box.
February 5, 2021 at 8:55 pm #99425grahamlthompson
ParticipantKieth – 4 hours ago »
larkim – 1 hour ago »
Kieth – 3 days ago »
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Yep, that worked, I can FTP in now, thank you!
I was hoping to get access to more, specifically the Android/Data folder (so I can manage Kodi files, config and paylists from my laptop), but it seems they’re only giving access to media related docs. I’ll see if I can move the files with a file manager on the box. Better than no access though I guess!
Great. If you find out the purpose of the upload dir in recordings let me know. It has a text file there saying ‘Upload your recordings here and you can restore them.’ I cannot see how to ‘restore’ them so that Aura can play them.
I found that if I downloaded a recorded file in it’s original format (SD or HD) and then deleted it from the Aura’s front end, if I then re-uploaded it to the “Uploads” directory it was processed by the Aura automatically and added back into the front end view of Recordings etc (along with a converted version).
So I think that is the functionality – in theory allowing you to archive off recordings from a “full” Aura and reinstate them at a later date.
Thanks for that. I didn’t try to put back an Aura recorded file. Clever if it manages to reinstate an HD file as they are ‘encrypted’ and not playable off the box.
All recordings are encrypted on the box, so of course they can be played. I think you mean off the box.
The old Foxsat-HDR allowed you to copy encrypted recordings to USB and play them back on box direct from usb. You couldn’t play them back on anything else.
The required decryption keys are stored on the box and are unique to the motherboard. So if you try and copy same from another box it will not work.
Basically HD recordings copied using FTP retain the encryption and the required sidecar support files so after deleting them they can be replaced as if they were never deleted.
February 5, 2021 at 9:11 pm #99426Anonymous
InactiveDoes anyone know if there is a way to change the Aura to go straight to the Android TV home page when it’s turned on? Instead of turning on a TV channel? Thanks
February 5, 2021 at 10:01 pm #99427Anonymous
InactiveOnly HD recordings are encrypted on the box, SD recordings aren’t. SD recordings are available directly via FTP. I’ll put some short HD recordings online at silver point of anyone wants to try uploading to a box on which the recordings weren’t generated. I doubt they’d play but worth a try.
February 6, 2021 at 2:58 pm #99428grahamlthompson
Participantlarkim – 16 hours ago »
Only HD recordings are encrypted on the box, SD recordings aren’t. SD recordings are available directly via FTP. I’ll put some short HD recordings online at silver point of anyone wants to try uploading to a box on which the recordings weren’t generated. I doubt they’d play but worth a try.
Not sure that the fact that you can ftp SD recording to a PC means that the actual recording is not encrypted. In fact the BBC1-SD recording I copied indicated that the content is being decrypted, reduced in resolution and frame doubled.
BBC1-SD content is transmitted at 720 x 576 at 25 frames/sec. That’s the data a pvr copies to the hard disk.
The file I created using FTP was reduced in resolution to 544 x 576 and frame doubled to 50 fps.
What results did you get from a BBC1 recording ?
That’s the resolution used by the very worst quality SD channels.
In fact by reducing the frame rate to the standard 25 fps, using free software I was able to scale up the resolution to HD 720p dimensions.
I then copied this to a usb stick and compared replay from the aura rear usb port using VLC with playback from a 5000T usb port.
It looks clear that replay from the aura is using drop frame processing to output at 60Hz. This produces noticeable motion artefacts especially on panning shots and moving titles (due to missing frames in the output producing a visible slight jump between adjacent frames) .
Replay from the UK standard HDR-1000S outputs at 50Hz and the motion artefacts are not present.
February 6, 2021 at 6:16 pm #99429Anonymous
InactiveI transfer across the raw file with no encryption and don’t process anything at all; it is unencrypted.
I’ve no idea what you’re doing when your say you create a file using FTP. There’s no creation needed, it just transfers and is playable (just as HD ones are unplayable).
February 6, 2021 at 6:26 pm #99430grahamlthompson
Participantlarkim – 9 mins ago »
I transfer across the raw file with no encryption and don’t process anything at all; it is unencrypted.
I’ve no idea what you’re doing when your say you create a file using FTP. There’s no creation needed, it just transfers and is playable (just as HD ones are unplayable).
Well the source file and the file you get are clearly not the same. Ergo ftp is not transferring the file as is.
I will have to create another SD recording and download same source using ftp and from the webif. By your argument they should be identical.
There is no reason why the ftp server on the box can’t be setup up to decrypt the data streamed to the Filezilla client.
That’s the way a HDR-FOX-T2 works. All recordings are encrypted but SD ones are decrypted on copying to usb. The box can be fooled into doing the same for HD recordings.
February 6, 2021 at 6:41 pm #99431Anonymous
InactiveTHe source file IS the file that FTP transfers. We’ve discussed this on the other thread, the file stored in the “recordings” directory is what has been recorded, and is transferrable raw.
Perhaps the attached video will show (if it doesn’t upload I’ll trim it down).
February 6, 2021 at 6:42 pm #99432Anonymous
InactiveBear in mind this is a tiny recording because I started and stopped it mid-flow just to get a small file size.
February 6, 2021 at 6:43 pm #99433Anonymous
InactiveThird time lucky – youtube link instead as MP4 uploads failed for some reason.
February 6, 2021 at 6:49 pm #99434Anonymous
InactiveSo as you can see, I get a MPEG2 file with the correct resolution and frame rate. Where on earth your reduced resolution and doubled frame rate come from I don’t know UNLESS you have clicked the “convert” option on the aura as that transcodes it.
As you can see I just get to download the raw file, unconverted and in broadcast resolution.
February 6, 2021 at 6:57 pm #99435grahamlthompson
Participantlarkim – 5 mins ago »
So as you can see, I get a MPEG2 file with the correct resolution and frame rate. Where on earth your reduced resolution and doubled frame rate come from I don’t know UNLESS you have clicked the “convert” option on the aura as that transcodes it.
As you can see I just get to download the raw file, unconverted and in broadcast resolution.
Look up the relationship between pixel aspect ration (par) and frame aspect ratio.
It is not broadcast resolution. All BBC-SD channels are broadcast at 720 x 576.
720 x 576 creates a 16:9 image using square pixels. The file you get is anamorphic. To create a 16:9 image the pixels are wider than high. There is no longer a 1:1 relation between the source pixels and the image pixels.
I have set Breakfast tomorrow morning on both the Aura and Vbox to compare the files. I will use FTP and the webif to create two copies of the downloaded file.
February 6, 2021 at 8:13 pm #99436Anonymous
InactiveTHat’s not the case, BBC is commonly using 704×576 for SD broadcasts. What I’ve downloaded is the SD broadcast output directly stored as a transport stream.
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