andysue – 10 hours ago  » 

grahamlthompson – 4 hours ago  » 

andysue – 2 hours ago  » 

One other thing I have done for years is solder the middle wire in the coax. If you run a lot of tvs this can help as each connection can lose signal. I guess in your case that doesnt matter but may help others.

I have an aerial guy coming out Thursday to give me a quote for a longer 2″ pole & a Log 36 Periodic like Graham said. I am also going to have some bird spikes fitted to stop the pigeons perching. They make a mess & make the arial go boing boing when they fly off! wakes me up!

I could fit all this myself but I havnt got the meters to test the signal. I know you can use the tv but it is a bit awkward with me on the roof & her indoors on the phone. Plus I need to align the aerial at its best with this great big oak tree in the way.

Gave up messing with Belling Lee connectors. I use WF100/PF100 cable and screw on F connectors. Simply add the appropriate F to Belling Male or Female adaptor as required.

The Log 36 is connected using a F connector with the coax fed through the boom to the impedance matching balun at the front of the aerial.

Thanks for that, I have used copper on copper but not sure of the make. Had a reel of it left over from my work days as an electrician at the MEB.

This is interesting :- http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/articles/coax-cable-quality.shtml

That’s either out of date or US based.

Air spaced dialectric isn’t a good idea as it can act as a water pipe sending water into a connected box,

This is generally the best cable for both satellite and terrestrial use.

http://www.webro.com/coaxial/tv-satellite/wf100-cable/

andysue – 43 minutes ago  » 

grahamlthompson – 3 hours ago  » 

andysue – 10 hours ago  » 

grahamlthompson – 4 hours ago  » 

andysue – 2 hours ago  » 

One other thing I have done for years is solder the middle wire in the coax. If you run a lot of tvs this can help as each connection can lose signal. I guess in your case that doesnt matter but may help others.

I have an aerial guy coming out Thursday to give me a quote for a longer 2″ pole & a Log 36 Periodic like Graham said. I am also going to have some bird spikes fitted to stop the pigeons perching. They make a mess & make the arial go boing boing when they fly off! wakes me up!

I could fit all this myself but I havnt got the meters to test the signal. I know you can use the tv but it is a bit awkward with me on the roof & her indoors on the phone. Plus I need to align the aerial at its best with this great big oak tree in the way.

Gave up messing with Belling Lee connectors. I use WF100/PF100 cable and screw on F connectors. Simply add the appropriate F to Belling Male or Female adaptor as required.

The Log 36 is connected using a F connector with the coax fed through the boom to the impedance matching balun at the front of the aerial.

Thanks for that, I have used copper on copper but not sure of the make. Had a reel of it left over from my work days as an electrician at the MEB.

This is interesting :- http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/articles/coax-cable-quality.shtml

That’s either out of date or US based.

Air spaced dialectric isn’t a good idea as it can act as a water pipe sending water into a connected box,

This is generally the best cable for both satellite and terrestrial use.

http://www.webro.com/coaxial/tv-satellite/wf100-cable/

Thats true thanks, I may change the main one to the aerial. It wont reach any way if I have a higher pole & the aerial is connected at the end. All the other ones run from the loft feeding other TVs but are not subject to outside conditions.

We shall see what the guy from RCK-services says when he comes Thursday.It maybe that nothing will help because of our position in Redditch. I wonder how those people in Wychbold get on with all those Aerials in the way I always lose my radio going through there in the car.

Screwfix in Redditch sell PF100 which is near identical to WF100. They also have the f connectors and Belling Lee convertors.

WF100/PF100 make excellent interconnects as the double screening helps in avoiding issues with HDMI inteconnect interference with terrestrial TV.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/labgear-pf100-satellite-coaxial-cable-100m-black/37838?_requestid=297073

https://www.screwfix.com/p/philex-coaxial-f-plug-pack-of-10/17061

https://www.screwfix.com/p/labgear-f-to-coax-plugs-pack-of-10/39772

https://www.screwfix.com/p/labgear-f-to-coax-adaptors-pack-of-10/33532

I am on Crystal Palace – I lost this, and other channels, with the upgrade on my 2 year old Freeview Play TV and my Fox T2 PVR.

The PVR died when I did a factory reset, so I bought an FVP-5000T – that also is short some channels, but interestingly fewer than the TV -106 loss is common to both.

After a 15 minute wait for the Freeview helpdesk, and a pointless conversation, a visit from an engineer was scheduled, who didn’t turn up, and has been rescheduled for a fortnight.

The helpdesk point to re-programming. reset and new aerials. My Aerial is not brand new, but is Wideband. They now admit that about 2 out of 10 users are having problems and will need a fix if some sort – to be determined.

They seem to have caused significant problems with this – seemingly to free capacity for mobile phones.

jonnyu1 – 32 minutes ago  » 

I am on Crystal Palace – I lost this, and other channels, with the upgrade on my 2 year old Freeview Play TV and my Fox T2 PVR.

The PVR died when I did a factory reset, so I bought an FVP-5000T – that also is short some channels, but interestingly fewer than the TV -106 loss is common to both.

After a 15 minute wait for the Freeview helpdesk, and a pointless conversation, a visit from an engineer was scheduled, who didn’t turn up, and has been rescheduled for a fortnight.

The helpdesk point to re-programming. reset and new aerials. My Aerial is not brand new, but is Wideband. They now admit that about 2 out of 10 users are having problems and will need a fix if some sort – to be determined.

They seem to have caused significant problems with this – seemingly to free capacity for mobile phones.

How do you know your aerial is wideband ?

Can you see the colour of the plastic plug on the end of the boom ?

andysue – 10 hours ago  » 

andysue – 3 days ago  » 

One other thing I have done for years is solder the middle wire in the coax. If you run a lot of tvs this can help as each connection can lose signal. I guess in your case that doesnt matter but may help others.

I have an aerial guy coming out Thursday to give me a quote for a longer 2″ pole & a Log 36 Periodic like Graham said. I am also going to have some bird spikes fitted to stop the pigeons perching. They make a mess & make the arial go boing boing when they fly off! wakes me up!

I could fit all this myself but I havnt got the meters to test the signal. I know you can use the tv but it is a bit awkward with me on the roof & her indoors on the phone. Plus I need to align the aerial at its best with this great big oak tree in the way.

Well the Aerial guy came out today & was really helpful & nice & didnt try to rip me off & gave free advice. If I had a taller pole, a new aerial, new variable booster he still couldnt guarantee the channels. So I am going to wait to see what happens when the leaves are back on the oak tree & perhaps they may boost the signal back on the Sutton Coldfield transmitter. Redditch is a problem being down the dip.

I have also read up on the 36 log periodic & it apears to be made by vision & Optima & the prices vary but dont understand the group K type. Is this wideband?

Also they have now bought another one out which is another one (L36FK) http://optima-tv.com/l36fk/ that is now in a range to get away from the 5G frequency.

But I cant find anywhere selling one.

I dont want to buy one that is going to be out of date again. This is getting as bad as updating Windows. Is this all going to start again when they switch on 5G ?

Group K is the new wideband, it replaced the log 40 which covered 21-68. The 4 dipoles that covered the 800 MHz band are removed. In effect building in a 4G filter.

The new aerial you linked to will not work with COM 7 and Com 8 as it doesn’t cover UHF 55 and 56.

Don’t worry about 700 MHz clearance when it happens you just need a filter.

I am new to the forum and so my apologies if this info has been noted and posted before by someone. I have had and still got a Humax FoxSat/FoxT2 and now use a Freeview HDR-2000T and have been plagued with the signal dropping out with the 2 Freeview units, but never on the TV.

The aerial is high-gain, new coax, etc. Signal strength 100% and quality 100%. The feed to the TV was always fine and never dropped out. I use a passive high quality splitter to split the aerial into 2 to feed the Humax and TV. All tested and units swapped over.

My problem was too much signal strength which can sometimes overload the input level of the Humax (but not the TV). I inserted 3dB/6dB/9dB passive inline coax attenuators in the feed to the Humax to drop the signal strength to around 95%. This reduced the problem from many times daily to weekly. I may drop it down a bit more.

The signal where I live is really strong so much so that I cannot do an automatic tune as it gets the next county’s transmitter and uses that as a default, which is fine until night time when it drops low at times.

I also had a hardware fault one time where the coax socket on the Humax had broken the soldering joint holding the socket to the PCB – the socket could be wobbled and the signal would be lost. I took the Humax unit apart and resoldered the socket securely, which cured that problem.

I mention this in case it assists.

My problem was not enough signal strength.

I did buy a new Optima arial ( thanks Graham) I also rewired with WF cable, I bought a new booster & a masthead booster. All worked for a few months until I had to re tune. Then everything kept breaking up on recordings. Thinking the huge oak tree with wet leaves was to blame I bought a new 5m pole off ebay came on a great big wagon wrapped up!

Then I retuned manualy & everything was ok until Film 4 +1 disapeared.

I tuned in automatically lost all my recording times but I had photographed them on the screen so I could re enter them easily.

Recordings broke up again so I had to manualy tune again.

Dont know why we have to do that why doesnt the 4000T 0r 5000T tune in automatically whenthey alter the channels?