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December 12, 2016 at 6:54 pm #75680
Anonymous
InactiveI already have a Humax Freesat PVR !!
At the moment, the 4000 is relegated to just providing backup recordings for the Humax Freesat machine.
December 13, 2016 at 5:30 pm #75681Anonymous
InactivePollensa1946 – 22 hours ago »
HumaxUKNW – 1 hour ago »
Personally, I think Humax should do a product recall, and replace all the 4000’s with a new model, similar spec, ie 3 tuners, but with new improved fast software & a better remote…
Good luck with that one. History is not on your side. It took 2 years to get the Freesat G2 models, 1000/1010, working reasonably stable. Followed by the HDD missing problem, which they were flagged on in Nov 2015 and almost one year later they issued a fix at cost to the user. If I were a 4000T user I would get a satellite dish installed.
Oh dear, not a positive outlook then? I chose the FVP400OT based on various reviews and the fact that I’ve used one of their freesat with Freetime boxes and liked it. I am now kicking myself for not doing a bit more research.
I agree that a recall would probably be appropriate, but the starting point for that would presumably be acknowledgement from Humax that the issues we’re discussing here are actually problems that need resolution – clearly that point has not yet been reached and perhaps it never will be.
It looks very much like the time to cut my losses has arrived..
December 14, 2016 at 12:43 am #75682Anonymous
Inactivecaptgeneralmark – 1 day ago »
Over the past week, I’ve been keeping an eye on the schedule. It seems that every other day the schedule is full (ie today, last Saturday, Thursday and Tuesday) and on the other days it’s either completely blank or only has one or two programmes showing. All-in-all, that’s strange but it is a pattern. Indicative of what exactly, I’ve no idea.
Capt…,
I believe you have the 500GB and 1TB models, at one point there seemed to be more problems with the 1TB, almost as if there was a timing problem with the 1TB simply taking longer to boot up and present the file system and the schedule population skipping a step as a result. Is this still the case? or are both 500GB and 1TB being sort of random’ish.
Apart from very much disliking the UI and the slowness of operation; I’ve had none of the current problems i.e. reboots and loss of schedule with either the current or previous software.
I’m surprised that a common denominator hasn’t been found yet. History shows us more often than not it’s software related, I don’t see the point of a recall without the exact problem being first identified and a then fix available.
December 14, 2016 at 8:19 am #75683Barry
Moderatordrkcw – It is not half as bad as it is being portrayed.
Freesat:
1. I don’t recall it taking 2 years to become stable/usuable.
2. Yes it took some time to ascertain what was causing the HDD issues…..repairs are free for in warranty customers, out of warranty customers pay for carriage only.
Less then 1% of the total units sold are affected by this problem.
3. There is an reboot problem being reported by some users currently – both freesat and Humax Towers are aware.
FVP 4000T:
I only witnessed the disappearing schedule once, on a beta not released publically, and no reboots to date.
The latest beta being tested by members of this forum appears to be stable – for me at least.
There is some nonsense posted elsewhere about this unit which is either user error of just plain mischief making.
December 14, 2016 at 9:53 am #75684Anonymous
InactiveQuote:Capt…,I believe you have the 500GB and 1TB models, at one point there seemed to be more problems with the 1TB, almost as if there was a timing problem with the 1TB simply taking longer to boot up and present the file system and the schedule population skipping a step as a result. Is this still the case? or are both 500GB and 1TB being sort of random’ish.
Yesterday the 1TB box had an empty schedule and today, following the pattern it has a full one. The 500GB box also has a full schedule today. However, I didn’t check that box yesterday.
Now although the 1TB box started with an empty scedule yesterday, it had found one future program by mid-afternoon. Later on I added three more scheduled recordings, so it finished the day with four showing. Today, as I said the schedule is full (18 programmes).
December 14, 2016 at 10:09 am #75685Anonymous
InactiveBarry – 2 weeks ago »
I witnessed this on an earlier beta release but not on this one so far.
When I had problem all timers that were scheduled and are annotated as such in the EPG recorded ok. The schedule reappeared the next day.
Message sent to Humax Towers highlighting the issue with this release.
That’s my experience as well. It might have been the case before the latest update but I very rarely look at the Schedule so I probably just never noticed.
However, as Barry says, even though most of the schedule other than 3 or 4 entries have vanished, the programmes are still set to record in the guide and they do record as scheduled.
The next day the schedule is fully populated again!
Richard
December 14, 2016 at 1:51 pm #75686Anonymous
InactiveBarry – 4 hours ago »
drkcw – It is not half as bad as it is being portrayed.
Freesat:
1. I don’t recall it taking 2 years to become stable/usuable.
2. Yes it took some time to ascertain what was causing the HDD issues…..repairs are free for in warranty customers, out of warranty customers pay for carriage only.
Less then 1% of the total units sold are affected by this problem.
3. There is an reboot problem being reported by some users currently – both freesat and Humax Towers are aware.
FVP 4000T:
I only witnessed the disappearing schedule once, on a beta not released publically, and no reboots to date.
The latest beta being tested by members of this forum appears to be stable – for me at least.
There is some nonsense posted elsewhere about this unit which is either user error of just plain mischief making.
Thanks Barry, it has all been reading like a endless tale of woe. I remain stuck deciding what to do, perhaps I have been particularly unlucky getting two boxes with similar issues. Notably when this new unit presented an empty schedule on Sunday later that day I went to check it again and the box crashed when entering the Recording menu via the Main Menu – and of course on reboot the Schedule was re-populated.
There are three other recorders working in this house, all of which have required some degree of input at various times from me re. firmware updates or configuring the settings etc to get them to work ok. But unfortunately my FVP4000T’s really have outdone them all, in total and I am minded to choose reliability over functionality and look at another manufacturer.
Just wondering, have you any idea how long it might take for the beta software you’re testing to become available? The ’empty schedule’ is very annoying, having a knock-on effect into the Guide where you can’t edit anything which is marked to record – and the occasionally crashing of course.
I do remain concerned that Humax still seem to be reluctant to acknowledge this as an issue. Unfortunately 1% might just be deemed an acceptable level of unit failure and loss so the issue will never be a addressed? However I’m minded to hang on another day or so before getting back to the retailer. Think I’ll go check the Schedule now..
Thanks
December 14, 2016 at 2:01 pm #75687Barry
ModeratorI was asked this very morning for my opinion on the beta software, and provided my response to Humax Towers, which was positive.
If you want to try the beta software then PM me and I’ll provide info on how to obtain/upload it.
December 14, 2016 at 2:07 pm #75688Anonymous
InactiveMy first FVP was on 1.01.34 and had a number of problems, but not the empty schedule. Humax sent me a beta (1.01.47) and although it stopped or reduced most of the problems it introduced the empty schedule. I later was sent a beta (1.01.49, pre-release version) which still had it. I now have a replacement box with official 1.01.49 and it is the same. I have kept a record of events and there is definitely no pattern to it on my box. I have started doing a power off/on which mostly works.
Judging by when it started and not all boxes being affected, I would suspect a problem with a component being out of spec for the new software.
Barry, even though I have had beta software direct from humax before, and my contact telling me they would let me have it if it becomes available, they are saying there is no beta. So does your offer still stand?
David.
December 14, 2016 at 2:09 pm #75689Barry
ModeratorDavid check your PM’s
in a minute.December 14, 2016 at 3:05 pm #75690Anonymous
InactiveBarry,would there be any chance of getting the original software from fourteen months ago when the box was first released. No idea of the version number,but any help would be greatly appreciated.
December 14, 2016 at 4:22 pm #75691Barry
ModeratorI have received quite a few versions of software (over 20, some good, some not so) not sure which version you are after, and I don’t want to take a chance on providing a ‘not so good one’
December 14, 2016 at 8:28 pm #75692Anonymous
InactivePollensa1946 – 2 days ago »
HumaxUKNW – 1 hour ago »
If I were a 4000T user I would get a satellite dish installed.
There are plenty of other Freeview manufacturers, just nobody that produces a box specced to record as many simultaneous programmes as the 4000T.
If there was, I might have jumped ship.
December 16, 2016 at 5:37 pm #75693Anonymous
InactiveThe missing or incomplete schedule is starting to happen more frequently on our 4000T. It didn’t happen at all with previous firmware versions. Nor did it happen in the first week or so after the PVR updated to the latest ’49 firmware (does this suggest there is some memory not clearing properly?). I spoke to the Humax helpline today. I was told that my call was the first he had heard of the problem and that they had nothing noted at Humax Towers that such a problem existed! He also said he was not aware of any new firmware in the pipeline. Nothing changes then ….
December 16, 2016 at 6:50 pm #75694Anonymous
InactiveAlex4000 – 1 hour ago »
The missing or incomplete schedule is starting to happen more frequently on our 4000T. It didn’t happen at all with previous firmware versions. Nor did it happen in the first week or so after the PVR updated to the latest ’49 firmware (does this suggest there is some memory not clearing properly?). I spoke to the Humax helpline today. I was told that my call was the first he had heard of the problem and that they had nothing noted at Humax Towers that such a problem existed! He also said he was not aware of any new firmware in the pipeline. Nothing changes then ….
Be charitable, perhaps it was his first day in the job. At least you got an answer, my only phone contact with Humax support years ago resulted in silence, he refused to answer my questions.
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