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July 29, 2012 at 11:41 am #33001
grahamlthompson
ParticipantTune to channel 150 and press the red button.
July 29, 2012 at 11:41 am #33002Anonymous
InactiveApologies, I have just managed to find the link after a fresh look, spent 10 mins earlier without luck.
Still think they could make it easier to find recorded stuff.
July 29, 2012 at 1:16 pm #33003Anonymous
InactiveYou mean :
“The problem exists because in the way that the stream is being encoded the box cannot build the required PVR indexing correctly. This causes it to get confused and believe the recording is zero in time. “
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Sadly I have little idea what PVR indexing is, or how the encoding of a programme that the box can demonstrably view could affect the boxes ability to record. In my naivety I assume that there is a “spec” for such things. If there is, and if the broadcast conforms, then I assume the Humax box does not.
July 29, 2012 at 1:28 pm #33004Martin Liddle
ParticipantXBy – 9 minutes ago »
Sadly I have little idea what PVR indexing is, or how the encoding of a programme that the box can demonstrably view could affect the boxes ability to record.
You asked for an explanation of the problem and that seems to be the best we have. My reading is that there is something different about the Olympic Freesat streams (but within the specification) and the Humax is confused.
Have you sent Barry a PM?
July 29, 2012 at 2:02 pm #33005Anonymous
InactiveOn the freesat info channel on the news part theres a bit about the problem on humax fosat hdr’s but it states the bug will not be fixed in time. Didnt know if anyone else noticed it ?
July 29, 2012 at 3:37 pm #33006Anonymous
InactiveXBy – 2 hours ago »
You mean :
“The problem exists because in the way that the stream is being encoded the box cannot build the required PVR indexing correctly. This causes it to get confused and believe the recording is zero in time. “
??
Sadly I have little idea what PVR indexing is, or how the encoding of a programme that the box can demonstrably view could affect the boxes ability to record. In my naivety I assume that there is a “spec” for such things. If there is, and if the broadcast conforms, then I assume the Humax box does not.
I have heard a few things about a few other boxes have had the same issues. If it’s in the spec, the BBC still should have done some more tests on a few actual retail boxes – it’s only by far the most popular Freesat box, for goodness’ sake. Surely they coul have spared a few hundred pounds of their budget to buy some of the more popular Freesat boxes for testing purposes *before* the olympics…
I do have a (very) vague idea about how video streams work – doesn’t the indexing allow positions in the file to be matched to time indexes, thus allowing the stream to be easily jumped around in (eg using the 30 second skip buttons). Presumably this indexing should be present, but other PVRs make their own indexing so get around the problem. If the PVR didn’t detect any indexing, for whatever reason (either the required indexing isn’t present in the stream, or the Humax has a bug that stops it detecting this indexing), it can’t decide where to start recording (presumably the Humax likes starting on an indexed point, for whatever reason, hence the 30 minute message).
July 29, 2012 at 3:59 pm #33007Anonymous
InactiveEven thought the recording fails does it still use up space on the HDD ? Mine was meant to record the cycling and seems to have a lot less disk space available but there is nothing to delete
July 29, 2012 at 4:14 pm #33009Barry
ModeratorUpdate:
I have responded to all PM’s received so far, the majority by return, but I have to take a break now and again

A couple of you have not checked your PM’s so please check and reply.
July 29, 2012 at 4:24 pm #33010grahamlthompson
Participantah666 – 21 minutes ago »
Even thought the recording fails does it still use up space on the HDD ? Mine was meant to record the cycling and seems to have a lot less disk space available but there is nothing to delete
The files appear to totally disappear when you stop recording. I have only tried small test recordings though so any effect on disc capacity wouldn’t be noticed. Looking at the HDD directly there’s no obvious sign.
July 29, 2012 at 4:27 pm #33011grahamlthompson
Participantgrahamlthompson – 27 seconds ago »
ah666 – 21 minutes ago »
Even thought the recording fails does it still use up space on the HDD ? Mine was meant to record the cycling and seems to have a lot less disk space available but there is nothing to delete
The files appear to totally disappear when you stop recording. I have only tried small test recordings though so any effect on disc capacity wouldn’t be noticed. Looking at the HDD directly there’s no obvious sign.
It’s 30 seconds not 30 minutes. All recordings on the Foxsat have a minimum recording time of 30 seconds. Any recording doesn’t appear in the Media list till approx 30 seconds has elapsed. If you change channels you have to wait at least 30 seconds of time shift buffer to be created before live pause works.
July 29, 2012 at 6:41 pm #33012Anonymous
InactiveI have just found out about it not recording , i just turned on to watch all the Gymnastics only to find that there was not any recording that i had set .
Please Please hurry to sort this out .
July 29, 2012 at 6:43 pm #33013Anonymous
Inactivebudgie1645 – look back 3 posts and PM Barry with your email address – you may receive a present.
July 29, 2012 at 7:17 pm #33014Anonymous
InactiveHow do I send Barry a PM?
July 29, 2012 at 7:19 pm #33015Barry
ModeratorShackeng – 1 minute ago »
How do I send Barry a PM?
Welcome to the Forum

I have sent you one, see top right of forum page
July 29, 2012 at 7:20 pm #33016FenderBender
ModeratorIn the top right of the forum, under ‘You are logged in!’, click on ‘0 new messages’. This will take you to the PM screen. Select Barry from the drop down list.
edit: Barry too quick for me again!
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