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August 26, 2017 at 6:36 pm #79523
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InactiveThank you, I’ve tried to format several times, but each time I try, it gets stuck with the ‘formatting’ message at the top of the screen. The processing circle doesn’t go round either, we’ve left it like that for 45 mins to see if it will get on with it but nothing happens. Also tried disc cleanup but this does the same, just gets stuck with the message on screen.
August 26, 2017 at 8:06 pm #79524Anonymous
InactiveMinilopmad – 1 hour ago »
Thank you, I’ve tried to format several times, but each time I try, it gets stuck with the ‘formatting’ message at the top of the screen. The processing circle doesn’t go round either, we’ve left it like that for 45 mins to see if it will get on with it but nothing happens. Also tried disc cleanup but this does the same, just gets stuck with the message on screen.
That exactly fits with my own experience. The disk has failed, replace it.
August 26, 2017 at 8:59 pm #79525Anonymous
InactiveThank you for the advice, I’ll post an update once I’ve put a new disk in.
August 26, 2017 at 10:02 pm #79526Anonymous
InactiveMinilopmad – 3 hours ago »
Thank you, I’ve tried to format several times, but each time I try, it gets stuck with the ‘formatting’ message at the top of the screen. The processing circle doesn’t go round either, we’ve left it like that for 45 mins to see if it will get on with it but nothing happens. Also tried disc cleanup but this does the same, just gets stuck with the message on screen.
If this was my machine I would be removing the HDD from the box and formatting it using my PC. I know someone that had this issue, they did this i.e. removed and formatted the HDD via PC, reinstalled it and it’s been working fine ever since.
At this point I would say it has to be worth a try.
August 27, 2017 at 9:42 am #79527Anonymous
InactiveFaust – 11 hours ago » … I would be removing the HDD from the box and formatting it using my PC.
You realise that after “formatting” it on a PC (for the OS that is resident on the PC) that the HDR will simply attempt to reformat it for the Linux system on the HDR.
Again, I did this and it worked, but the disk in the HDR again failed after a few hours. Ergo, the disk is bad and should be replaced. However, by all means try it.
August 27, 2017 at 10:07 am #79528Martin Liddle
ParticipantIf you are going to the trouble of putting the drive in a PC I would suggest the sensible thing to do is to look at the SMART data for the hard drive which will give you a good (but not infallible) idea of the health of the drive.
August 27, 2017 at 10:37 am #79529Anonymous
InactiveMartin Liddle – 19 minutes ago » …I would suggest the sensible thing to do is to look at the SMART data…
The interesting thing is that the disk I initially used to replace the failure was a brand new disk (the story is in another thread here, see below) which formatted OK on my PC and the SMART data showed no problems. Still it failed in the HDR and was returned for a refund. I got another which works perfectly so far. So yes, not infallible. I’ve had several experiences where PC disks showed massive SMART errors but the only indication of problems was very slow access to the files onboard, leading me to believe that Windows is a lot more tolerant of disk errors than your typical domestic media device.
https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/hard-disk-upgrade-using-wd20eurs-2tb/page/9
August 27, 2017 at 11:31 am #79530Martin Liddle
ParticipantPollensa1946 – 47 minutes ago »
I’ve had several experiences where PC disks showed massive SMART errors but the only indication of problems was very slow access to the files onboard, leading me to believe that Windows is a lot more tolerant of disk errors than your typical domestic media device.
I don’t think it is to do with Windows. I believe that it is because of different design philosophies between PC drive firmware and AV drive firmware. PC drives will prioritise data integrity and will make multiple attempts to recover data from marginal sectors; AV drives will prioritise smooth playback and will make minimal attempts to recover data from marginal sectors.
August 29, 2017 at 8:40 am #79531Anonymous
InactiveAs well as viewing the SMART attributes, connecting it to a PC gives you the chance to run the manufacturer’s diagnostics.
August 29, 2017 at 3:33 pm #79532Anonymous
InactivePollensa1946 – 2 days ago »
Faust – 11 hours ago » … I would be removing the HDD from the box and formatting it using my PC.
You realise that after “formatting” it on a PC (for the OS that is resident on the PC) that the HDR will simply attempt to reformat it for the Linux system on the HDR.
Again, I did this and it worked, but the disk in the HDR again failed after a few hours. Ergo, the disk is bad and should be replaced. However, by all means try it.
Of course I realise this. Reformatting it on a PC would/should clear any bad sectors. It may also provide an opportunity to test the HDD hardware.
I had a HDD fail (allegedly, according to the error messages) in my Linux based server last year – RAID 1 . I ended up buying a new HDD. I thought I would try the HDD in a caddy on my PC. Nearly 12 months later the drive is still functioning as an extra backup drive and runs as quiet as the grave.
It has to be worth a try.
August 29, 2017 at 4:27 pm #79533Anonymous
InactiveFaust – 48 minutes ago » …I had a HDD fail (allegedly, according to the error messages) in my Linux based server last year – RAID 1 . I ended up buying a new HDD. I thought I would try the HDD in a caddy on my PC. Nearly 12 months later the drive is still functioning….
Exactly what I said in post #52 above. Disks which will not function in a media device often perform OK in a PC. However, I have not so far seen evidence that formatting it on a PC will enable it somehow to be formatted on the media device such that a previous failure is permanently made good.
August 30, 2017 at 9:51 am #79534Anonymous
InactivePollensa1946 – 17 hours ago »
Faust – 48 minutes ago » …I had a HDD fail (allegedly, according to the error messages) in my Linux based server last year – RAID 1 . I ended up buying a new HDD. I thought I would try the HDD in a caddy on my PC. Nearly 12 months later the drive is still functioning….
Exactly what I said in post #52 above. Disks which will not function in a media device often perform OK in a PC. However, I have not so far seen evidence that formatting it on a PC will enable it somehow to be formatted on the media device such that a previous failure is permanently made good.
It depends – if it is simply a case of a few bad sectors then a re-format and running chkdsk on a PC can remedy things. It’s a bit of a lottery but it can often be worth a try.
August 30, 2017 at 2:42 pm #79535Anonymous
InactiveThank you for the advice on my issue, I purchased a new hard disc and it’s working perfectly, very happy household getting their programs recorded again. I don’t have the right cables to attach old one to my pc but I’m not worried about getting the recordings back so will probably leave it.
Thanks again.
September 4, 2017 at 7:04 pm #79536Anonymous
InactiveIMHO the YouTube does still not function properly. There may have been a problem with some ads – there is still a problem running the clips.
In frustration I have spent £30 on an Amazon Fire. It works 100% of the time.
YouTube hangs with the Loading overlay when the Fire runs the video with no problem.
It can’t be my broadband as the Humax is fully wired to the internet router and the Amazon dongle links with WiFi.
I have done several tests. Try to run a YouTube clip on the Humax and it hangs Loading. Run on the Fire and it is OK.
OK the Humax is a great device in many other ways but it has not conquered YouTube – but catch up on BBC iPlayer is fine.
Tony
London UK
September 8, 2017 at 9:53 pm #79537Anonymous
InactiveThese streaming devices are the way to go, not rely on smart TV and PVR apps that don’t get proper support.
My Panasonic TV is three years old and nearly all the app place holders are now empty. Panasonic are one of the worst offenders for not supporting the apps once your purchased the device.
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