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It’s kind of comforting that I am not the only one having these problems, and not the only one to have tried all possible solutions regarding the Foxsat (including a new HDD, after previous problems with that part). There seems to be nothing left but to wait until the broadcasters better their lives. But one thing seems to make a difference: from standby, recordings fail, but when switched on, they seem to start (and when I then go to standby, they continue). Could this lead to some clue?
Ted – 45 minutes ago » Could this lead to some clue?
Hhmmm, don’t know… seems odd though, as I’ve noticed that my Freeview box missed a lot of programmes during the time when this was at its recent worst.
Interestingly, its red light would start to flash as usual a couple of minutes before the programme was about to start – but just carry on that way, rather than progress to solid red, and begin recording.
When I checked afterwards, it had an error message about “No Timing Signal” or something like that.
Hogweed – 1 minute ago »
Ted – 45 minutes ago » Could this lead to some clue?
Hhmmm, don’t know… seems odd though, as I’ve noticed that my Freeview box missed a lot of programmes during the time when this was at its recent worst.
Interestingly, its red light would start to flash as usual a couple of minutes before the programme was about to start – but just carry on that way, rather than progress to solid red, and begin recording.
When I checked afterwards, it had an error message about “No Timing Signal” or something like that.
One of the problems with the current BBC debacle in addition to the major screw up with the recording crid codes is the timing of the Accurate recording codes which indicate to the box when one programme is completed and the next starts, These are used to correct the start and end of recordings where the transmission deviates from the scheduled times. This affects Freeview and Freesat.
One recent recording of mine started the scheduled recording 10 mins after the last programme ended and thus lost 10 mins from the one I want.
This process has worked reliably for years,
From reading other posts it seems that the BBC decided in their wisdom to relieve Red Bee of the contract and do it themselves.
Clearly they do not know what they are doing.
Perhaps if we all complain to Ofcom they might be forced to finally sort out the mess.
Along other problems is multiple recordings being created on Freesat on BBC1-HD England and BBC1-HD Scotland and or BBC1-HD England and BBC1-HD Wales.
Using up two tuners is causing failures on other broadcasters content who are not at fault at all.
Recent relevant threads
https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/recording-conflict-hdr1100s
https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/missing-start-of-some-recordings
https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/double-recording-on-bbc
https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/current-bbc-recording-debacle
https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/recording-2-seperate-bbc-hd-channels-at-same-time
https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/set-up-recordings-beeb-1-oddities
https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/bbc-one-news-accurate-recording-problems
https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/hdr-1100s-3
https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/recordings-failing-part-way-into-programme
Funny thing… my daughter will graduate in Broadcasting Journalism this year, and he BBC would normally be a good place to look for an internship. However, as luck would have it, I was walking up a local mountain recently, when I found a lost production crew who I guided up, and got talking to them – they said avoid the Beeb, as they’re in such a state at the moment struggling to fit in with modern times that you really wouldn’t want to work there.
She applied anyway and, despite being the top student in her entire year, and easily securing interviews with other broadcasters, got turned down flat by Auntie Beeb.
Presumably her “profile” didn’t quite fit.
Hogweed – 3 weeks ago »
REPASSAC – 1 minute ago »
If padding in minutes is set then it will overrise accurate record totally. Padding will cause conflicts in some situations. I never use it as, except with the current BBC problems, AR generally works very well.
Hate to disagree when you presumably know what you’re talking about, and I certainly don’t… but over the last few days, I set padding of 2 minutes at both start and end, and it still lost the end of a couple of recordings.
Padding doesn’t help if the actual programme starts more than 2 mins late (assuming +/minus 2 mins set) padding disables Accurate recording. It takes the scheduled times and effectively creates a manual recording with start and end adjusted by the padding correction.
You can though set a manual recording with start time and end time set at whatever time you want and set a repeat pattern.
Eg using a Foxsat-HDR schedule a recording in the usual way.
Example
With Foxsat-HDR on and no padding set (start/end set to Auto)
Press Schedule and then Red to instantly display the cached epg
Locate a programme – I chose Doctors BBC1-HD 13:45
OK on HD option
OK on Record Whole Series
Press schedule to return to Schedule
Locate Programme – (Doctors in my case) Press Yellow (edit)
Fill in the table
I used Start Time 13:35, End Time 14:20, Repeat Weekday, Mode Record
Seems like a reasonable tip.
Just now, I have changed settings on one recorder (start and end times +5 minutes) and – for comparison – fully automatic on another. I’ll know tomorrow. Then I might follow Graham’s advise.
And, it not just BBC, ITV and – for example – 5 USA are also affected.
Ted – 30 minutes ago »
Seems like a reasonable tip.
Just now, I have changed settings on one recorder (start and end times +5 minutes) and – for comparison – fully automatic on another. I’ll know tomorrow. Then I might follow Graham’s advise.
And, it not just BBC, ITV and – for example – 5 USA are also affected.
You have to be careful. The BBC problems can easily affect other channels. For instance if a BBC1-HD continues recording for longer than it should and you aren’t watching. when the box tries to record the tuner it needs is tied up creating a failed recording and you don’t see the on screen clash warning.
Other than this ITV seems to be OK at the moment. I don’t record 5 USA but it would be worth noting if the recording starts at the same time as a BBC1-HD one ends.
The BBC have however sorted out the daily Shakespeare and Hathaway. For the first two weeks every recording was curtailed (I have however deleted BBC1-HD and Scotland on my HDR-1000S. Thay are now recording OK.
After creating a BBC1-HD recording. Ckeck the recordings planned list for a dual recording at the same time.
Now that you mention it. Several times, when I was watching (on the Foxsat), a message appeared warning me that a recording might fail. I never payed it much attention. But I shall try and find out what happens next time and under which circumstances (eg. concurrent recordings).
In te meantime: the recording I scheduled (from 5USA) on the HDR-1100S succeeded! The failures were on the Foxsat.
Humax’s ways are mysterious.
On my HDR-1100S padding is set at Auto. On the Foxsat, I set the start time at 5 minutes before. Yesterday, on both recorders the recordings – from 5USA – succeeded. The HDR-1100S was on standby. The scheduled recording on the Foxsat started while it was on (I was watching a recording from an external HDD; the original HDD from the Foxsat).
On the Foxsat, another recording – BBC1 – (only one) was scheduled. At the scheduled start time, it seemed to have trouble starting up; starting up lasted longer than normal. When I looked, I saw the message that the HDD was missing! Remember, the last time it was on it was to watch a recording from an external HDD. This was yesterday.
This morning, when I switched the Foxsat on, the HDD was available and the recordings were listed (the recording from 5USA and older recordings, not the BBC1 recording).
And by the way: what should or could I do when I see a clash warning? My first reaction always is: it’s too late anyway.
Ted – 58 minutes ago »
Humax’s ways are mysterious.
On my HDR-1100S padding is set at Auto. On the Foxsat, I set the start time at 5 minutes before. Yesterday, on both recorders the recordings – from 5USA – succeeded. The HDR-1100S was on standby. The scheduled recording on the Foxsat started while it was on (I was watching a recording from an external HDD; the original HDD from the Foxsat).
On the Foxsat, another recording – BBC1 – (only one) was scheduled. At the scheduled start time, it seemed to have trouble starting up; starting up lasted longer than normal. When I looked, I saw the message that the HDD was missing! Remember, the last time it was on it was to watch a recording from an external HDD. This was yesterday.
This morning, when I switched the Foxsat on, the HDD was available and the recordings were listed (the recording from 5USA and older recordings, not the BBC1 recording).
And by the way: what should or could I do when I see a clash warning? My first reaction always is: it’s too late anyway.
Most times under normal circumstances the clash is generated because a recording due to finish overruns slightly, preventing the start of a follow on recording. This happens quite often when the ending programme is on ITV. The now/next data tends to change around the middle of the adverts. If ignored generally the follow on programme works just fine.
However if the clash is clearly down to a double recording simply cancel the recording of one of the two. This will release a tuner to make the desired recording. If you don’t spot the double recording prior to the real time clash and are not watching there’s not much you can do.
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