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Installer is coming Friday to try a new/different aerial so fingers crossed.
Well I finally seem to have all the channels and this is the first time I got what was on Com 8. Channel 37 has suddenly appeared so something has been going on at winter hill because loads of people have complained in the recent past
190 channels I get including radio I think. I immediately start deleting most of them so I have a guide I want to see.
I delete them down to about 60 channels including five radio stations. Some of those are SD duplicates in case HD goes down.
Im sorry but all the channels of garbage and the retunes are a bit of a national disgrace. I actually long for the days when we only had three of four channels
There is certainly a race on between the formats, Freeway and Freeview, to claim “we have the most channels”. In fact most are garbage and I immediately edit them out.
grahamlthompson – 3 days ago »
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Graham, the reason I know that Faust was receiving from Fenton is that Faust stated the frequencies that he is using and that it was those frequencies that he checked their signal strength.
The frequencies Faust stated were “This is what I currently have 21,22,24,25,27 and 28” with “The fast majority of those are reporting signal strength and quality between 90 and 100“.
Those frequencies are for Fenton not Sutton Coldfield.
The installer may have deliberately installed a group A so that the aerial could be high-gain for those Fenton frequencies.
Sorry if I am being a bit dim here.
So I have noticed that BBC4 HD for me is now not working (the dreaded “The receiver is not receiving a signal or the signal is too weak” message).
Even after a smart re-tune, it is not broadcasting for me.
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Should I be using the Manual Channel Search option? If so, can anyone tell me how this works (is this a replacement for the Auto tune) and what the correct settings should be.
Right now it is defaulted to Channel 21 | Frequency 474000 | Transmission DVB-T | Bandwidth 8MHz
Both Signal and Quality is 0%.
The only useful bit I have worked out is that as I am based in Manchester, I think I am using Winter Hill, if it makes sense to anyone.
First thing to do is enter your post code and house number and check the detailed option here
http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/operations/about_the_coverage_checker.
Green entries show good reception is anticipated.
Assuming you get Winter Hill as the preferred transmitter BBC 4 HD is on the right column COM 8 UHF Carrier Channel 31.
Manual tune is normally used to avoid receiving from more than 1 transmitter, it can also be used to check reception of a specific mux.
If you bring up manual tune select Channel 31 and DVB-T2. The signal strength and quality is shown at the bottom of the screen.
If you go on this winter hill website there are only certain bands its broacasting on
https://ukfree.tv/transmitters/tv/Winter_Hill
Your installation menu will show you the handful of bands you receive and you just manually retune on each one making sure that DVB T2 is selected for HD broadcasts.
It is a pain though and this is the first time in two years I have a full channel list.
An auto retune can pick up other transmitters on lower signal strengths. I see the lowest band number for me is 31 then 37 then mainly in the fifties
Minstrel SE – 50 minutes ago »
If you go on this winter hill website there are only certain bands its broacasting on
https:// ukfree tv/transmitters/tv/Winter_Hill
UKFree is an independent site and is frequently incorrect. That page is currently incorrect and incomplete. On past performance you may have to wait for 3 years until the site is corrected or updated.
Far easier to just go to a site closer to the source of the information instead of using incorrect information even if it is easy to read.
I.e. the site that Graham has posted in the previous post.
For winter hill this link is the same site but with the winter hill postcode pre-added.
http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/coveragechecker/main/trade/BL6+6SL/NA/0/NA
Scroll down to the winter hill section and the current UHF channel numbers are those with a grey background on the first row (currently dated 7 Mar 18).
Yes I agree but I found it well laid out in a simplistic way I like for general information. Yes it looks as though it takes ages to get updated and its far from the last word in detail
To be fair the TV viewer shouldnt have to be going through all this.
The punter wants to know that one aerial will work and that Im going to get the important channels.
Thanks very much all the responses, all very helpful.
I am slowly getting to understand when a manual retune has the advantage over auto at times.
Looks like after the recent re-tune, the next event will not be until 2020.
What a relief (if I have read it right).
A quick update on my situation. Our aerial installer has now replaced the group ‘A’ aerial with a new Log Periodic and even tried boosting the signal which put the other frequencies over spec.
However, it hasn’t made one tat worth of difference – still unable to get COM7 & COM8. The installer tells me he has fitted eight aerials in our area since the re-tune last week and has had no success at any of the other properties either.
Using his meters he says on paper we should be able to get the channels although power is down at around 40% and yet we can’t.
Nothing we can do until/or unless the transmitter power is boosted.
Faust – 1 hour ago »
A quick update on my situation. Our aerial installer has now replaced the group ‘A’ aerial with a new Log Periodic and even tried boosting the signal which put the other frequencies over spec.
However, it hasn’t made one tat worth of difference – still unable to get COM7 & COM8. The installer tells me he has fitted eight aerials in our area since the re-tune last week and has had no success at any of the other properties either.
Using his meters he says on paper we should be able to get the channels although power is down at around 40% and yet we can’t.
Nothing we can do until/or unless the transmitter power is boosted.
What does the DTG reception predictor (detailed view) say about COM 7/8 at your postcode and house number ? It may be co-channel interference especially if Fenton and Sutton Coldfield are both roughly in the same direction.
http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/operations/about_the_coverage_checker
grahamlthompson – 2 hours ago »
Faust – 1 hour ago »
A quick update on my situation. Our aerial installer has now replaced the group ‘A’ aerial with a new Log Periodic and even tried boosting the signal which put the other frequencies over spec.
However, it hasn’t made one tat worth of difference – still unable to get COM7 & COM8. The installer tells me he has fitted eight aerials in our area since the re-tune last week and has had no success at any of the other properties either.
Using his meters he says on paper we should be able to get the channels although power is down at around 40% and yet we can’t.
Nothing we can do until/or unless the transmitter power is boosted.
What does the DTG reception predictor (detailed view) say about COM 7/8 at your postcode and house number ? It may be co-channel interference especially if Fenton and Sutton Coldfield are both roughly in the same direction.
http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/operations/about_the_coverage_checker
All channels are green solid circles on the predictor Graham, though regarding the 19 channels that have been moved to COM7 & 8 there is an icon against each one indicating we may need a ‘wideband aerial’ in some instances.
Regarding any cross-channel interference. The installer tried two different aerials and pointed one to SC the other to Fenton – made no difference. He also fitted a temporary attenuator and a temporary booster – again no difference.
The installers have said they along with other colleagues from different firms have been emailing Digital UK about this issue but as yet they are not getting any feedback. One of the chaps told me they are having similar issues off Winter Hill.
In fairness they spent almost 2 hours on the job so can’t complain at their thoroughness. The Log Periodic really should have done the trick but sadly hasn’t.
Just for the avoidance of doubt – this is what has been fitted today.
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Have you checked with the Wolfbane predictor?
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