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May 17, 2021 at 11:11 am #105825
grahamlthompson
ParticipantChannels in the 800’s means you have tuned channels from more than one transmitter almost certainly the cause of your problem. You need to identify which is your best transmitter. Identify the UHF frequency it uses for each MUX. Delete all radio and TV channels you have currently. Then Manually tune each MUX in turn Select DVB-T for SD and DVB-T2 for HD. You cannot use more than one transmitter as it screws up the broadcaster accurate recording capability. This of course will not bother a TV that is not a PVR.
Surprised this did not create a problem with a FV–4000/5000T
May 17, 2021 at 11:34 am #105826Anonymous
Inactivegrahamlthompson – 1 min ago »
Channels in the 800’s means you have tuned channels from more than one transmitter almost certainly the cause of your problem. You need to identify which is your best transmitter. Identify the UHF frequency it uses for each MUX. Delete all radio and TV channels you have currently. Then Manually tune each MUX in turn Select DVB-T for SD and DVB-T2 for HD. You cannot use more than one transmitter as it screws up the broadcaster accurate recording capability. This of course will not bother a TV that is not a PVR.
Surprised this did not create a problem with a FV–4000/5000T
I’m sorry but I can’t accept your answer. The Humax 4000T asks which BBC area you are in after auto tuning. Then it puts the weaker BBC region in the 800s so In my case BBC 1 South. It then doesn’t include the other duplicate weaker channels. It doesn’t cause a problem for the 4000T so why is it a problem for the Aura? I don’t want to ‘Use more than one transmitter” but I can’t blow up the IOW one. This has always been an issue as many people live within reach of more than one transmitter (my mother has a 4000T in Aylesbury and has to choose the Oxford transmitter over Bedford one). So I can’t quite understand why ordinary people will be expected to carry put a complicated manual tune. That won’t work as a consumer product.
I am not the only one with signal strength and quality issues if you look at the signal strength/Software subject string. I do find it a bit annoying how we are told it is ‘Our problem’.
The Humax Aura is at fault for not dealing with this issue like every other Humax box generation before it. And no doubt it will be fixed with a firmware update. But why Humax haven’t learnt from their own previous PVRs I can’t understand.
May 17, 2021 at 11:45 am #105827grahamlthompson
ParticipantPaul Bton – 10 mins ago »
grahamlthompson – 1 min ago »
Channels in the 800’s means you have tuned channels from more than one transmitter almost certainly the cause of your problem. You need to identify which is your best transmitter. Identify the UHF frequency it uses for each MUX. Delete all radio and TV channels you have currently. Then Manually tune each MUX in turn Select DVB-T for SD and DVB-T2 for HD. You cannot use more than one transmitter as it screws up the broadcaster accurate recording capability. This of course will not bother a TV that is not a PVR.
Surprised this did not create a problem with a FV–4000/5000T
I’m sorry but I can’t accept your answer. The Humax 4000T asks which BBC area you are in after auto tuning. Then it puts the weaker BBC region in the 800s so In my case BBC 1 South. It then doesn’t include the other duplicate weaker channels. It doesn’t cause a problem for the 4000T so why is it a problem for the Aura? I don’t want to ‘Use more than one transmitter” but I can’t blow up the IOW one. This has always been an issue as many people live within reach of more than one transmitter (my mother has a 4000T in Aylesbury and has to choose the Oxford transmitter over Bedford one). So I can’t quite understand why ordinary people will be expected to carry put a complicated manual tune. That won’t work as a consumer product.
I am not the only one with signal strength and quality issues if you look at the signal strength/Software subject string. I do find it a bit annoying how we are told it is ‘Our problem’.
The Humax Aura is at fault for not dealing with this issue like every other Humax box generation before it. And no doubt it will be fixed with a firmware update. But why Humax haven’t learnt from their own previous PVRs I can’t understand.
Manual tuning is not complicated.
May 17, 2021 at 11:50 am #105828Anonymous
InactiveBarry – 4 hours ago »
You will have had the app updates check version number as per This Post.
Previous updates were not firmware, just apps.
Thanks Barry. I’ll double check when I get home; from memory I am on fw 9.14 (pretty sure I checked that against the pic at the top of this thread as 9.16 is showing there) which tallies with me having missed out on the 5/5/21 beta and the 11/5/21 beta. I guess I had missed that I’d stopped receiving the betas since 9.14 came out.
May 17, 2021 at 12:25 pm #105829Anonymous
Inactivedarrendz – 1 day ago »
– Momentary audio stutter/disruption on Live TV on the main TV connected being watched, when commencing playback through the Aura app or another device DLNA play back or playing live TV. Subsequent play back may or may not generate the same issue, but generally if left for a period before activating playback again.
I noticed this when casting Now TV to the Aura and starting a recording on the app.
May 17, 2021 at 12:26 pm #105830Barry
ModeratorWheelmon – 15 hours ago »
First thing for me to test was the new settings for audio output format. Up to now I’ve not been able to get Dolby Digital from Aura to TV to Sonos surround system (ie: Beam + a pair of One SL’s).
Comment from programmer who also uses Sonos beam.
S/PDIF setup is correct one, the name of setting will be changed in future release.
May 17, 2021 at 12:32 pm #105831Anonymous
Inactivegrahamlthompson – 18 mins ago »
Paul Bton – 10 mins ago »
grahamlthompson – 1 min ago »
Channels in the 800's means you have tuned channels from more than one transmitter almost certainly the cause of your problem. You need to identify which is your best transmitter. Identify the UHF frequency it uses for each MUX. Delete all radio and TV channels you have currently. Then Manually tune each MUX in turn Select DVB-T for SD and DVB-T2 for HD. You cannot use more than one transmitter as it screws up the broadcaster accurate recording capability. This of course will not bother a TV that is not a PVR.
Surprised this did not create a problem with a FV–4000/5000T
I'm sorry but I can't accept your answer. The Humax 4000T asks which BBC area you are in after auto tuning. Then it puts the weaker BBC region in the 800s so In my case BBC 1 South. It then doesn't include the other duplicate weaker channels. It doesn't cause a problem for the 4000T so why is it a problem for the Aura? I don't want to 'Use more than one transmitter" but I can't blow up the IOW one. This has always been an issue as many people live within reach of more than one transmitter (my mother has a 4000T in Aylesbury and has to choose the Oxford transmitter over Bedford one). So I can't quite understand why ordinary people will be expected to carry put a complicated manual tune. That won't work as a consumer product.
I am not the only one with signal strength and quality issues if you look at the signal strength/Software subject string. I do find it a bit annoying how we are told it is 'Our problem'.
The Humax Aura is at fault for not dealing with this issue like every other Humax box generation before it. And no doubt it will be fixed with a firmware update. But why Humax haven't learnt from their own previous PVRs I can't understand.
Manual tuning is not complicated.
Not for you or I maybe, but the average user? But I still don't understand why you say having an additional weaker BBC 1 south from the IOW should cause problem? The Humax just puts them in the 800's and no problem usually. The plain fact is that being correctly tuned to my Whitehawk transmitter the channel 33 570000 kHz 8MHz I am getting variable signal quality on channels like Yesterday on the Humax Aura but not on the 4000T on the same aerial.
See attached screen shots 1st on Aura; 2nd on 4000T
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May 17, 2021 at 1:26 pm #105832Martin Liddle
ParticipantPaul Bton – 51 mins ago »
grahamlthompson – 18 mins ago »
Manual tuning is not complicated.
Not for you or I maybe, but the average user?
Plenty of average users have performed manual tuning; I think it is quicker than automatic tuning once you understand it. However I do accept that manual tuning should not be necessary for all but the unusual cases.
May 17, 2021 at 3:30 pm #105833Anonymous
InactiveBarry – 2 hours ago »
Wheelmon – 15 hours ago »
First thing for me to test was the new settings for audio output format. Up to now I’ve not been able to get Dolby Digital from Aura to TV to Sonos surround system (ie: Beam + a pair of One SL’s).
Comment from programmer who also uses Sonos beam.
S/PDIF setup is correct one, the name of setting will be changed in future release.
Thank you Barry (and the programmer).
One thing I noticed was that when the TV programme is in 2.0 and the Beam is receiving “Stereo PCM 2.0” , background sounds are noticeably coming from the rear speakers in ‘surround’ style.
I may now justify treating myself to a new TV!
May 17, 2021 at 3:35 pm #105834Anonymous
InactiveMartin Liddle – 2 hours ago »
Paul Bton – 51 mins ago »
grahamlthompson – 18 mins ago »
Manual tuning is not complicated.
Not for you or I maybe, but the average user?
Plenty of average users have performed manual tuning; I think it is quicker than automatic tuning once you understand it. However I do accept that manual tuning should not be necessary for all but the unusual cases.
Yes but the point is why is there such a SIGNAL QUALITY difference? That is why the Aura SD channels are breaking up. Lets not go down a manual tuning rabbit hole
May 17, 2021 at 4:54 pm #105835Anonymous
InactivePaul Bton – 1 hour ago »
Martin Liddle – 2 hours ago »
Paul Bton – 51 mins ago »
grahamlthompson – 18 mins ago »
Manual tuning is not complicated.
Not for you or I maybe, but the average user?
Plenty of average users have performed manual tuning; I think it is quicker than automatic tuning once you understand it. However I do accept that manual tuning should not be necessary for all but the unusual cases.
Yes but the point is why is there such a SIGNAL QUALITY difference? That is why the Aura SD channels are breaking up. Lets not go down a manual tuning rabbit hole
I’d like to try one manual tuning just to compare. Could someone help with how you do it please?
May 17, 2021 at 6:24 pm #105836Anonymous
InactiveI’m not sure I’ve received this update. can someone help me how to get the system information page up please.
May 17, 2021 at 7:06 pm #105837grahamlthompson
ParticipantShieldWolf – 40 mins ago »
I’m not sure I’ve received this update. can someone help me how to get the system information page up please.
FVP button move to settings (cog icon) – OK Scroll down to Freeview Play Preferences – OK. Scroll down to System Information – OK
May 17, 2021 at 8:09 pm #105838grahamlthompson
Participantboogersa – 3 hours ago »
Paul Bton – 1 hour ago »
Martin Liddle – 2 hours ago »
Paul Bton – 51 mins ago »
grahamlthompson – 18 mins ago »
Manual tuning is not complicated.
Not for you or I maybe, but the average user?
Plenty of average users have performed manual tuning; I think it is quicker than automatic tuning once you understand it. However I do accept that manual tuning should not be necessary for all but the unusual cases.
Yes but the point is why is there such a SIGNAL QUALITY difference? That is why the Aura SD channels are breaking up. Lets not go down a manual tuning rabbit hole
I’d like to try one manual tuning just to compare. Could someone help with how you do it please?
Doing it is simple. To help you you need to provide the information I asked for previously in your post that admitted you knew you were receiving from more than one transmitter. And the followed that up with a post about how it must be the box as it works on your TV’s on the same aerial.
You should find that you have duplicate channels on com 6 with numbers over 800.
A good start would be to tune to these in turn and make a note of the UHF channels used for each compared to those stored with the lower channel numbers and compare the signal info for both.
That should help to decide which transmitter gives you the best reception for your location. Bear in mind if you used autotune during a high pressure uplift you may be getting channels that under normal conditions are much weaker, and look at the signal test values. You should finish up with a table of best reception and UHF carrier used.
In some cases you might be able to temporarily use a attenuator set to a value that ignores the unwanted weaker channels and remove it after a autotune.
Autotune simply starts at the lowest UHF channel and works up to the highest. Once it finds a channel it allocates the lower LCN. If it finds a second it adds it again with LCN over 8oo incrementing eack lcn by 1 for each new one found.
Only if the best transmitter highest mux frequency is lower than the first of the unwanted second is it safe to delete the over 800’s.
No problem on a TV. A PVR requires the broadcaster to transmit recording codes (CRIDS). So more than one recording set could find two recordings from different transmitters to schedule. If the unwanted ones or not in the epg the issue never arises.
May 18, 2021 at 7:12 am #105839Barry
ModeratorShieldWolf – 12 hours ago »
I’m not sure I’ve received this update. can someone help me how to get the system information page up please.
No record of you opting into firmware updates.
You should have received the app updates as per This Post.
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