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June 22, 2021 at 3:46 pm #106249
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InactiveFurther…
My LG 1080p tv doesn’t support dolby vision. Today have borrowed an amazon firestick and plugged into usb port. Apple TV on this device works fine.
However my aura connected via hdmi still has pixellation issues or refuses to play some programmes. Can’t see that it can be a dolby vision issue but an incompatibility between the app and the aura. Something in some playbacks doesn’t play properly. Even those that do work often require a quick burst of fast forward/rewind to get any sound.
As Firestick is a Android device (am I correct?) and works flawlessly on my tv then this appears to be Aura specific and something to do with the way they interface android to their hardware? As we have different experiences on different tv’s it could be how they encode the output? Ie my 1080p 60hz output appears problematic and some 4k outputs seem fine?
Hopefully humax can troubleshoot. Not a lot on apple tv but a few gems that I’d rather watch on my big tv than my ipad!
June 22, 2021 at 4:25 pm #106250Anonymous
InactiveRolandsizzers – 32 mins ago »
Further…
My LG 1080p tv doesn’t support dolby vision. Today have borrowed an amazon firestick and plugged into usb port. Apple TV on this device works fine.
However my aura connected via hdmi still has pixellation issues or refuses to play some programmes. Can’t see that it can be a dolby vision issue but an incompatibility between the app and the aura. Something in some playbacks doesn’t play properly. Even those that do work often require a quick burst of fast forward/rewind to get any sound.
As Firestick is a Android device (am I correct?) and works flawlessly on my tv then this appears to be Aura specific and something to do with the way they interface android to their hardware? As we have different experiences on different tv’s it could be how they encode the output? Ie my 1080p 60hz output appears problematic and some 4k outputs seem fine?
Hopefully humax can troubleshoot. Not a lot on apple tv but a few gems that I’d rather watch on my big tv than my ipad!
Yes it’s definitely the app. I’ve just had a look at the reviews of the Android Apple TV app on Google play store and they are all pretty damning. So it is the Android version of the app in general that’s the problem. Humax say they can’t reproduce the problem on their Aura!
I think I was getting version 2.2 of the Android Apple TV app as directed to by the Aura; but I see reviews for a version 3.1. How do you get that I wonder?
June 22, 2021 at 4:44 pm #106252Anonymous
InactiveAlso note that the humax like the nvidia shield tv is running android tv 9 with the new Google tv interface.
The latest android tv is 11 but the Google tv dongle use the newer version as well as some new android based TVs.
Edit Sorry I edited this thinking I double posted but now it has been removed, lucky someone quoted the previous post I wrote.
June 22, 2021 at 4:51 pm #106253Anonymous
InactiveA5ian300zx – 4 mins ago »
It’s apple’s drm which the app will report back to apple servers.
No, the box will not get dolby vision as it is licensed and the box and the SOC (chipset) are not capable.
Apple will not approve this box as thier content is in dolby vision so they are quite strict on official apple tv apps. I think a lot of the newer TV’s have the approved official app and now the nvidia shield. All other third party android boxes will not work 100%.
In the future a modified version of the apple app might work, eg fooling the app in thinking its running on approved official hardware.
My micro stutter issue seem to have gone away after a full power cycle.
Apple TV is available on Samsung TVs that do not support Dolby Vision.
June 22, 2021 at 4:53 pm #106254Anonymous
InactiveMars – 1 min ago »
A5ian300zx – 4 mins ago »
It’s apple’s drm which the app will report back to apple servers.
No, the box will not get dolby vision as it is licensed and the box and the SOC (chipset) are not capable.
Apple will not approve this box as thier content is in dolby vision so they are quite strict on official apple tv apps. I think a lot of the newer TV’s have the approved official app and now the nvidia shield. All other third party android boxes will not work 100%.
In the future a modified version of the apple app might work, eg fooling the app in thinking its running on approved official hardware.
My micro stutter issue seem to have gone away after a full power cycle.
Apple TV is available on Samsung TVs that do not support Dolby Vision.
That is interesting but samsung is also a major player so might have had separate agreement from apple as samsung does not support dolby vision on any of thier lineup and opted for hdr10+
June 22, 2021 at 4:58 pm #106255Anonymous
InactiveIf their DRM reports non compatibility how have I just watched an episode of For All Mankind? Appears to only fail on some shows and then only partially? Surely DRM would simply stop me viewing with a certificate error, which I have only seen once for 30 mins and assume was a server error.
Ps have no real clue but hoping it will work on Aura at some point!
June 22, 2021 at 5:14 pm #106256Anonymous
InactiveRolandsizzers – 9 mins ago »
If their DRM reports non compatibility how have I just watched an episode of For All Mankind? Appears to only fail on some shows and then only partially? Surely DRM would simply stop me viewing with a certificate error, which I have only seen once for 30 mins and assume was a server error.
Ps have no real clue but hoping it will work on Aura at some point!
The Aura and my LG 4K TV both support HDR10 not Dolby vision. I think it’s a buggy Android app, not a DRM issue. I can play any Film I bought on Apple TV app on the LG TV wether they are Dolby vision or not.
June 22, 2021 at 5:19 pm #106257Anonymous
InactiveI don’t think it is local drm but the app reporting back to apple servers which then check against I am guessing some sort of os and hardware verification. I had the same on my Sony a1 oled where a programme to two worked and then nothing. Check the apple originals content and see if that plays?
It would be nice if it worked.
You can look at the drm info of the box and other hardware info using the below apps.
Drm Info and aida64.
I still like the box and think the picture is fantastic compared to some others I have had in the past.
June 23, 2021 at 9:24 am #106258Anonymous
InactiveA5ian300zx – 15 hours ago »
Mars – 1 min ago »
A5ian300zx – 4 mins ago »
It’s apple’s drm which the app will report back to apple servers.
No, the box will not get dolby vision as it is licensed and the box and the SOC (chipset) are not capable.
Apple will not approve this box as thier content is in dolby vision so they are quite strict on official apple tv apps. I think a lot of the newer TV’s have the approved official app and now the nvidia shield. All other third party android boxes will not work 100%.
In the future a modified version of the apple app might work, eg fooling the app in thinking its running on approved official hardware.
My micro stutter issue seem to have gone away after a full power cycle.
Apple TV is available on Samsung TVs that do not support Dolby Vision.
That is interesting but samsung is also a major player so might have had separate agreement from apple as samsung does not support dolby vision on any of thier lineup and opted for hdr10+
HDR10 is the open source HDR format so no license to Dolby. I think The whole Dolbyvision discussion was a bit of a dead end; it was just suggested as a reason for the app not working. But although Apple movies support Dolby vision they don’t require it otherwise they would only play on a few high end TVs.
Surely the Apple TV app is licensed or approved to run on Android devices. It’s not pirated. But it’s up to someone like Google or other developers (Humax refer to ‘their developers’) to make it work on the different versions of Android. Correct me if I’m wrong. But the Apple app just doesn’t work on Android very well if you look at the Google play store comments.
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