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Quote:I’ve known people leave their microwave ON when they go on holiday, is that just in case the burglar fancies a snack???
Do you know, I am very safety conscious, but I never give the microwave oven a second thought when I go away, so any burglar is going to be in for a treat (if he can get past the cat).
My microwave oven stays on 24 x 7 x 365 as it is designed to be left on and in standby it runs at the tiny wattage necessary to power the clock.
Pollensa1946 – 2 minutes ago »
Biggles – 2 minutes ago » … My personal view is that anything unnecessary has mains removed when I’m out. As my internet speed does not show significant change between router switch-ON and being ON for a long time, the router goes OFF…
Yes I agree, if a technical case can be made for leaving something on (obviously a fridge/freezer, PVR etc) then OK. No case can be made for the router, so I switch it off.
Being a bit of a insomniac, I often play iplayer radio content on headphones in the middle of the night to send me back to sleep. Pretty sure some of my boxes use the internet during the night as well. My Foxsat-hdr sends me a changes e-mail after housekeeping every night. I won’t be turning off my router.
I know this has been off topic but I feel the less technical among us deserve to know that urban myths are not necessarily based on fact, repetition on the internet is not proof.
JohnH77 – 14 minutes ago »
Quote:I’ve known people leave their microwave ON when they go on holiday, is that just in case the burglar fancies a snack???Do you know, I am very safety conscious, but I never give the microwave oven a second thought when I go away, so any burglar is going to be in for a treat (if he can get past the cat).
My microwave oven stays on 24 x 7 x 365 as it is designed to be left on and in standby it runs at the tiny wattage necessary to power the clock.
Re-read Pollensa1946’s post #31.
grahamlthompson – 9 minutes ago » … I won’t be turning off my router.
No problem with that. I’m just not in agreement with people who make a general case based simply on their beliefs.
Biggles
I did.
But I also read Fire Statistics Great Britain: 2013 to 2014 to gain a better perspective.
Pollesnsa’s case was one case. The survey looks at every?? reported fire in GB over a 12 month period and is far more appropriate for me.
JohnH77 – 9 minutes ago »
Biggles
I did.
But I also read Fire Statistics Great Britain: 2013 to 2014 to gain a better perspective.
Pollesnsa’s case was one case. The survey looks at every?? reported fire in GB over a 12 month period and is far more appropriate for me.
It’s a no-brainer for me.
Question – Will I need the microwave while I’m away on holiday.
Answer – No.
Question – Is there a risk of a fault causing a fire no matter how small if I leave it ON.
Answer – Yes.
Conclusion – Switch OFF microwave.
I do give it a second thought.
JohnH77 – 26 minutes ago » …a better perspective.
Pollesnsa’s case was one case…
Perspective will not cut it when your house burns down while sunning yourself in the Med. In the case of my microwave, on returning it to the supplier I learned they were concerned about the number of cases and were working with the manufacturer. The model was subsequently recalled.
grahamlthompson – 1 hour ago » …a power block using low voltage DC. In this case the output is near certain to be current limited to a value that will restrict the energy available to a level with insufficient energy to generate any significant heat in the block itself…
So why over the years have there been cases of wall wart power supplies smouldering?
A case in point…
Any equipment might have this, that or the other circuit protection that probably does a good job while the unit is functioning correctly, but when there is a fault who knows…
Biggles
We are in violent agreement …
… but we position our level of acceptable risk at very slightly differernt levels. You don’t remove the batteries from your clocks and remote controls, drain the hot water header tank, and drain the petrol from your wife’s car in the garage because, even though you won’t be using them, you accept the risks.
My acceptance of risk level is microscopically higher than yours, so I accept the microwave risk, but both your and my levels are vastly lower than the much higher risks we face while away.
… and I don’t have the risk, while on holiday, of suddenly rermembering “D*mn! I forgot to switch off the microwave” which has the risk of generating a heart attack
I wonder how long this conversation will be allowed to continue before Barry steps in and slaps us all, deservedly so, on the wrist? In the dim and distant past it began with Kevin3093’s comment
Quote:I have a FVP-4000T box and every two days or so when I turn the box on I get a picture but no sound …He may not get any sound, but he has got plenty of heat!
PS I hope my next burglar is reading this and sees that I left the microwave on for him or her – there’s some food in the freezer too, so help yourself if you are peckish – and he or she doesn’t feel it necessary trash my house and do unmentionable things to my toothbrush.
Pollensa1946 – 1 hour ago »
grahamlthompson – 1 hour ago » …a power block using low voltage DC. In this case the output is near certain to be current limited to a value that will restrict the energy available to a level with insufficient energy to generate any significant heat in the block itself…
So why over the years have there been cases of wall wart power supplies smouldering?
A case in point…
Most likely cheap and nasty imports from the far east without the required built in safeguards. As all routers I have ever used have a seperate brick, based on the sheer number in use any fires resulting from properly designed power brick supplies would surely be widely reported. TV’s on the other hand are quite often reported as a fire hazard.
I would always turn off an immersion heater while away on holiday mainly to avoid waste. The PVR would be in standby as I want it to recording when I return.
Leaving the house I would review the many circuit breakers a french house has (Mine after a quick count has 32 with 3 earth leakage breakers) and. switch off anything that would cost any significant money to leave on.
Biggles – 6 hours ago »
Faust – 11 hours ago »
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If your products are correctly fuse rated and in good condition why is there a fire hazard.
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This sort of statement will lead people into a false sense of security. As an example I have had two computer PSU catch fire at work under normal use and both were correctly fused. I have had an LCD projector spectacularly blow a large capacitor in its power supply, also correctly fused. Only the projector blew its fuse and fortunately people were around to pull the plugs.
If you take this argument to it’s logical conclusion then you should have no gas electric or water in your house and take all necessary steps to avoid a lightening strike too.
It’s all about calculated risk and in most cases it’s a very very small risk indeed. I’m well aware that some people will claim to have worked in this and that industry for gazzillions of years. However, most are now retired and tech moves at a rate of knots. I would suggest some people are firmly routed in the last century and have not kept up with today’s advancements. Gas mantles had their place in time but things move on.
Turning routers off at night indeed, what tripe 🙄 I suspect some on here turn their mirrors to the wall when there’s a thunderstorm. 😳
Faust.
The point is not whether you should or not do it, but if some people do then the Humax should cope with it.
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