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So pray tell how would you suggest we watch BBC regional output given the beeb do not transmit regional output on HD. Regional output for most is SD only.
You all make fair points and tenants get messed around the most with these changes. You all know what landlords are like. They are not keen to be paying an aerial servicing bill.
This makes me sound like a telly addict but I just watch the best programmes on the BBC.
HD 1080P televisions are cheap enough now so I dont see the point in too many SD channels.I never asked for all the rubbish they put on there and I fail to see how some tv companies are even making a profit. American companies and +1 +1 channels are ridiculous when there is a bandwidth issue.
Does Channel 4 and Channel 5 need all those offshoots when in my opinion they cant fill one channel with decent programming. Same with ITV…do we really need an ITV 4 for heavens sake? They struggle to fill ITV 1 with anything decent
Personally I dont care about regional output
That local Manchester channel is rubbish in my opinion and I dont care about BBC local news.A lot of my pent up frustration is that Im a hands on person but have no control over the aerial feed. I will be leaving here fairly soon anyway. Even in more pricey rentals the aerial system is often an afterthought.
Best wishes to everyone on the forum
Why is BBC4HD still showing up when I scan COM7? I thought it was being dropped completely after a week of showing the retune now banner?
gomezz – 5 minutes ago »
Why is BBC4HD still showing up when I scan COM7? I thought it was being dropped completely after a week of showing the retune now banner?
Do you mean it’s still broadcasting content or just a service ID ?
As I said, it is broadcasting the retune banner.
gomezz – 54 seconds ago »
As I said, it is broadcasting the retune banner.
Don’t think anyone ever mentioned how long this info (which uses little bandwidth) is going to be transmitted. Only seen when the actual broadcast should have terminated.
Heads Up – Some of you will need to retune today. My transmitter Lark Stoke has already moved the 3 COM mux.
Re-tuned my TV’s today and I have now lost a number of HD channels e.g. no BBC four HD. According to transmitter info on Sutton Coldfield there are no current issues and we should be able to receive all muxes.
In the past we have been able to receive any transmissions on a pan lid such is the strenght and quality of the signal in our area. I’m not pleased. 😯
Com 8 has moved from UHF 35 to UHF 56. Guessing you have a group aerial and 56 is out of band. A change to a log periodic should hopefully get COM 8 back.
Looking at the gain curves – before today SC spanned 33 – 45 so you may have a group A or K.
grahamlthompson – 10 minutes ago  »Â
Com 8 has moved from UHF 35 to UHF 56. Guessing you have a group aerial and 56 is out of band. A change to a log periodic should hopefully get COM 8 back.
Just spoken with aerial installer and he’s tearing his hair out. His phone hasn’t stopped ringing all morning with people complaining they can only get the main five HD channels since the retune. He tells me another installer friend of his who covers winter hill area is having the same issues – loads of people cannot get anything beyond the main five HD channels.
The installer reckons that this could be affecting hundreds of thousands of consumers.
It isn’t just UHF 56 Graham as the bloc from UHF 55 missing too i.e. BBC News HD, Al Jazeera HD, 4seven HD and Channel 4+1 HD.
Our installer says we should be able to get the above with the aerial we have now and if not then he doesn’t think a change of aerial will alter anything nor can he recommend one. Thinks it’s more about power or lack of rather than the aerial.
A quick scan of our other channels shows 10 for quality on just about every channel.
At least I have Freesat to fall back on, but what a cock up.
We have an ‘A’ aerial.
Faust – 6 minutes ago  »Â
grahamlthompson – 10 minutes ago  »Â
Com 8 has moved from UHF 35 to UHF 56. Guessing you have a group aerial and 56 is out of band. A change to a log periodic should hopefully get COM 8 back.
Just spoken with aerial installer and he’s tearing his hair out. His phone hasn’t stopped ringing all morning with people complaining they can only get the main five HD channels since the retune. He tells me another installer friend of his who covers winter hill area is having the same issues – loads of people cannot get anything beyond the main five HD channels.
The installer reckons that this could be affecting hundreds of thousands of consumers.
It isn’t just UHF 56 Graham as the bloc from UHF 55 missing too i.e. BBC News HD, Al Jazeera HD, 4seven HD and Channel 4+1 HD.
Our installer says we should be able to get the above with the aerial we have now and if not then he doesn’t think a change of aerial will alter anything nor can he recommend one. Thinks it’s more about power or lack of rather than the aerial.
A quick scan of our other channels shows 10 for quality on just about every channel.
At least I have Freesat to fall back on, but what a cock up.
We have an ‘A’ aerial.
You are lucky to get COM 2 on UHF 45 using a group A. Look at the gain on a group A at 45 (0 dB). Still reckon a log 36 will work (+9dB at 45). I have a log 36 in my loft 30 mls from the Lark Stoke relay it got com 3 on UHF 47 with no problems before today and same mux today on UHF 48. There’s a masthead but that’s down to the number of passive splits. I reckon your installer is a bit of a cowboy.
Faust – 7 minutes ago  »Â
Our installer says we should be able to get the above with the aerial we have now and if not then he doesn’t think a change of aerial will alter anything nor can he recommend one.
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We have an ‘A’ aerial.
Is the “installer” an aerial installer?
Or perhaps he dosn’t think your aerial is an “A” aerial.
Luke – 1 hour ago »
Faust – 7 minutes ago  »Â
Our installer says we should be able to get the above with the aerial we have now and if not then he doesn’t think a change of aerial will alter anything nor can he recommend one.
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We have an ‘A’ aerial.
Is the “installer” an aerial installer?
Or perhaps he dosn’t think your aerial is an “A” aerial.
He’s actually a very good installer and been at it for over 30 years. All our area are on A/H aerials. If he was rubbish he would be trying to sell me something not say ‘wait and see’. Winter Hill is reporting a lot of similar issues too.
According to the website it’s predicted on UHF 55 & 56 we should be on 100 and fully in the ‘green’.
This is what I currently have 21,22,24,25,27 and 28. The fast majority of those are reporting signal strength and quality between 90 and 100.
I note that Stoke on Trent (Fenton transmitter) which isn’t that far away from us are also reporting zilch on UHF 55 & 56 and looking at their prediction it’s the same as mine. Someone has cocked up.
Faust – 38 minutes ago »
Luke – 1 hour ago »
Faust – 7 minutes ago  »Â
Our installer says we should be able to get the above with the aerial we have now and if not then he doesn’t think a change of aerial will alter anything nor can he recommend one.
…
We have an ‘A’ aerial.
Is the “installer” an aerial installer?
Or perhaps he dosn’t think your aerial is an “A” aerial.
He’s actually a very good installer and been at it for over 30 years. All our area are on A/H aerials. If he was rubbish he would be trying to sell me something not say ‘wait and see’. Winter Hill is reporting a lot of similar issues too.
According to the website it’s predicted on UHF 55 & 56 we should be on 100 and fully in the ‘green’.
This is what I currently have 21,22,24,25,27 and 28. The fast majority of those are reporting signal strength and quality between 90 and 100.
I note that Stoke on Trent (Fenton transmitter) which isn’t that far away from us are also reporting zilch on UHF 55 & 56 and looking at their prediction it’s the same as mine. Someone has cocked up.
If he is installing A group aerials on Sutton Coldfield he cannot be a good installer.
Pre-todays change Sutton Coldfield was B,K now B,E. It’s never been a A group like say Crystal Palace.
Look at the actual test curves for a group A it’s totally unsuitable.
Presumably you are looking at the DTG site. Look at the aerial group.
Lark Stoke is A or K.
grahamlthompson – 33 minutes ago  »Â
If he is installing A group aerials on Sutton Coldfield he cannot be a good installer.
Pre-todays change Sutton Coldfield was B,K now B,E. It’s never been a A group like say Crystal Palace.
Look at the actual test curves for a group A it’s totally unsuitable.
Presumably you are looking at the DTG site. Look at the aerial group.
Lark Stoke is A or K.
Faust is currently (16:07) receiving from Fenton which for the non-interim multiplexes is group ‘A’.
It too now has COM7 & COM8 on 55 & 56.
Perhaps the installer did indeed say ‘should’ still be receiving COM7 and COM8 but was not referring to aerial technology but the situation in an ideal world.
Faust,
Faust – 7 minutes ago »
he doesn’t think a change of aerial will alter anything nor can he recommend one.
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We have an ‘A’ aerial.
could well be the situation but
Faust – 7 minutes ago »
Our installer says we should be able to get the above with the aerial we have now
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We have an ‘A’ aerial.
is just plain wrong.
Luke – 36 minutes ago  »Â
grahamlthompson – 33 minutes ago  »Â
If he is installing A group aerials on Sutton Coldfield he cannot be a good installer.
Pre-todays change Sutton Coldfield was B,K now B,E. It’s never been a A group like say Crystal Palace.
Look at the actual test curves for a group A it’s totally unsuitable.
Presumably you are looking at the DTG site. Look at the aerial group.
Lark Stoke is A or K.
Faust is currently (16:07) receiving from Fenton which for the non-interim multiplexes is group ‘A’.
It too now has COM7 & COM8 on 55 & 56.
Perhaps the installer did indeed say ‘should’ still be receiving COM7 and COM8 but was not referring to aerial technology but the situation in an ideal world.
Faust,
Faust – 7 minutes ago »
he doesn’t think a change of aerial will alter anything nor can he recommend one.
…
We have an ‘A’ aerial.
could well be the situation but
Faust – 7 minutes ago »
Our installer says we should be able to get the above with the aerial we have now
…
We have an ‘A’ aerial.
is just plain wrong.
He said
According to transmitter info on Sutton Coldfield there are no current issues and we should be able to receive all muxes.
And posted reported similar issues, on Fenton, which I guess are due to the same out of group issues.
I note that Stoke on Trent (Fenton transmitter) which isn’t that far away from us are also reporting zilch on UHF 55 & 56 and looking at their prediction it’s the same as mine. Someone has cocked up.
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