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Nigel_HD – 42 minutes ago »
Whatever the statistics of the failure rate, the fact remains that if you are in the ‘HDD failure or motherboard failure club’ you have LOST your recordings. In the IT world, proprietary disk recovery software will often make a success out of a disaster, and provided you have the encryption key, then encrypted files can usually be recovered. My gripe is that it seems in Humax world, if you have the ‘problem’ you are locked out of your old recordings. That is the problem.
I’m still crossing my fingers, but equally thinking about how I can escape this potential ‘prison’ into a non-Humax Freesat world.
The encryption is enforced by the Freesat licence. Ergo only way to escape is a advanced generic fta box. Some have a epg.
There is no 2nd generation freesat+ box maker other than Humax and freesat are responsible for the software. The first generation Foxsat-HDR with the Custom Firmware is much more secure recordings wise.
Hmm. Sounds like a near-monopoly. It’s just a pity it is an imperfect monopoly.
Nigel_HD – 4 minutes ago »
Hmm. Sounds like a near-monopoly. It’s just a pity it is an imperfect monopoly.
Not a monopoly, other makers could have also made a G2 box. One in fact said they would. It never materialised. It wouldn’t have made any difference the encryption and lack of recording export is down to the Freesat. The very first boxes of which I have one, do not appear to have the problem, suggesting a mother board component not to spec is the issue.
My HDR-1000S is on it’s second 2TB disk. Other than that it has been 100 % reliable.
My HDR-1000S is also still going strong.
I have not seen any reports of the HDR-1100S model with the component problem.
So that is encouraging. The fact remains however, there is no way to perform a data backup. This goes against ALL the best practice in the IT industry. Have Humax ever heard of the terms ‘Business Continuity’ and ‘Disaster Recovery’ ? I bet their in-house IT systems are covered !
I rather think Humax’s systems are but the requirement for no copying off the unit (unless you copied the item to it) comes indirectly from the broadcasters via freesat and not Humax.
Yes, this is the message coming from several directions. As I said earlier, my fingers are crossed. Thanks again all for the replies to my post.
I am told that the nearest to a official Freesat+ box with no encryption is a Enigma 2 Linux based box.
REPASSAC – 2 months ago »
Put the unit in standby then remove the power for five minutes.
Reconnect the power and wait for the unit to recover from power failure. (it will set it’s clock and then may enter standby or remain on depending on what it remembers of it’s previous state).
If in standby power-on.
Wait for unit fully powered up plus 1 minute.
Hopefully all restored.
Just a post to say thanks, happened to ours last night HDR1000S that had been fine for years. Fixed it this morning with this.
Nigel_HD – 1 month ago »
Hmm. Sounds like a near-monopoly. It’s just a pity it is an imperfect monopoly.
It reminds me of Apple. 😯
I am new to this forum but would like to tell you my experience with lost recordings on an HDR-1000S:
Over a period of several months I have occasionally turned on my Humax box in the hope that I can recover the numerous recordings that I have made over the last few years – but with no success – just the same message ““You don’t have any recordings at the moment”. I have just read the comments by Nigel-HD and have also tried to record a programme today on what appears to be a corrupted hard drive, and after a delay of about 30 minutes all my recording suddenly reappeared! I have switched the box off and back on again and my recordings are still there! The question I am now asking myself is how can I make sure I don’t lose these recordings again as the system appears to be unstable.
DavidA – 1 hour ago »
The question I am now asking myself is how can I make sure I don’t lose these recordings again as the system appears to be unstable.
I think the only real solution is to get someone who knows what they are doing to replace the faulty component on the motherboard.
DavidA – 22 hours ago »
I have occasionally turned on my Humax box in the hope that I can recover the numerous recordings that I have made over the last few years – but with no success .
When you say ‘recover the numerous recordings’ what is it you are hoping to do at that point? Unfortunately you can’t move them to another PVR or PC to watch on those devices as your recordings are locked to the machine they were recorded on.
This is one of the big drawbacks with the modern PVR i.e. when your PVR dies the recordings die with them.
With the older Humax PVRs you could transfer them to other devices.
Thanks for your comments. That is a good question. Why do we allow ourselves to record programmes that will fill a 1Gb hard drive when we know that we cannot rely on keeping them? Perhaps we should just record programmes that we can watch later and then delete, but then we would not need the capacity of a large hard drive!
I shall treat this machine with care and watch the programmes I have recorded until it packs-in again. That’s all I can do because of the frustrating restrictions of the Humax system.
Faust – 3 hours ago »
DavidA – 22 hours ago »
I have occasionally turned on my Humax box in the hope that I can recover the numerous recordings that I have made over the last few years – but with no success .
When you say ‘recover the numerous recordings’ what is it you are hoping to do at that point? Unfortunately you can’t move them to another PVR or PC to watch on those devices as your recordings are locked to the machine they were recorded on.
This is one of the big drawbacks with the modern PVR i.e. when your PVR dies the recordings die with them.
With the older Humax PVRs you could transfer them to other devices.
There are post’s that indicate you can copy encrypted HD recordings to a PC booted into Linux (or using a windows EXT 3 driver. to a PC
And then replace them on a new hard drive setup by the G2 box. This will of course only work if the motherboard is the original. I haven’t tried this on other than the first G2 boxes. Later firmware upgrades may have made this possible.
You can already preserve SD recordings.
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