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In many ways they make a sound product and yet their software implementation can be pretty poor and basic.
They appear to have gone backwards let alone stood still in this regard.
None of the manufactures are perfect however. I can get really annoyed with the Panasonic which won’t let you watch catch-up if a recording is about to start – just tips you out.
I can only speak from experience of the Humax Freesat boxes, I have a HDR and three HBs. The one characteristic of those boxes, and from reading these forums it appears all Humax boxes, is that they are very good products within the narrow confines of what they need to do. One example being the excellent HD picture output. However, they are so downright ordinary, offering nothing innovative or leading-edge that would cause you to buy them other than there is no effective competition. It’s a kind of institutionalised laziness on their part.
Pollensa1946 – 18 minutes ago »
I can only speak from experience of the Humax Freesat boxes, I have a HDR and three HBs. The one characteristic of those boxes, and from reading these forums it appears all Humax boxes, is that they are very good products within the narrow confines of what they need to do. One example being the excellent HD picture output. However, they are so downright ordinary, offering nothing innovative or leading-edge that would cause you to buy them other than there is no effective competition. It’s a kind of institutionalised laziness on their part.
Very true – like all businesses they need good competition in order to make them innovate. I think many manufactures now see no real profit in such products so have pulled out. The latest generation of Humax PVRs have I think been designed by their accountants rather than the design department.
Faust – 4 days ago »
Most Humax products appear to behave in this unfortunate way. When any updates show up on my 2000T I now take a picture using my Tablet of the recording schedule. It certainly makes life much easier when re-programming it later.
However, it doesn’t have to be this way. All our Panasonic kit gives you the option of just updating the changes rather than the whole thing over again. This method means the schedule remains in place with the EPG simply updated with any changes – real 21st century stuff eh? Memo to Humax. 😆
While the ‘Update Channel List’ feature on the Panasonics does do as you say, unfortunately it checks all receivable multiplexes, not just the ones you may have manually tuned. You then have the option of sorting by region or signal strength but it’s not clear what happens to the rejected channels/multiplexes, they don’t appear in the 800s. I have yet to see if AR/SL is affected by this initial multiple transmitter reception.
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Most Humax products appear to behave in this unfortunate way. When any updates show up on my 2000T I now take a picture using my Tablet of the recording schedule. It certainly makes life much easier when re-programming it later.
However, it doesn’t have to be this way. All our Panasonic kit gives you the option of just updating the changes rather than the whole thing over again. This method means the schedule remains in place with the EPG simply updated with any changes – real 21st century stuff eh? Memo to Humax. 😆
While the ‘Update Channel List’ feature on the Panasonics does do as you say, unfortunately it checks all receivable multiplexes, not just the ones you may have manually tuned. You then have the option of sorting by region or signal strength but it’s not clear what happens to the rejected channels/multiplexes, they don’t appear in the 800s. I have yet to see if AR/SL is affected by this initial multiple transmitter reception.
Well have I been using this system with the Pannies for at least the last decade and not had one hint of a problem to date. I simply select the all GB best signal quality option. I always let the machine auto tune in any event and again this all works and selects the region in which I live.
BTW I live in an area where I could if I so wished pick up no less than 3 different regions quite comfortably. In fact I switched off the new channel update message because when the regions were going digital I would get messages almost every day from the different regions.
Martin Liddle – 20 hours ago »
Stephenesque – 1 hour ago »
As that has always been what’s happened with my 9200Ts
If you go back far enough there was a time with the 9200T when the recording schedule was left intact. Whether or not recordings took place was of course a bit of a lottery depending on what had changed.
I actually bought my first 9200T on the day it was released but I have a terrible memory and can’t remember it doing that.
Faust – 6 minutes ago » Well have I been using this system with the Pannies for at least the last decade and not had one hint of a problem to date. I simply select the all GB best signal quality option. I always let the machine auto tune in any event and again this all works and selects the region in which I live.
BTW I live in an area where I could if I so wished pick up no less than 3 different regions quite comfortably. In fact I switched off the new channel update message because when the regions were going digital I would get messages almost every day from the different regions.
That’s good to know, thanks. In the short time I’ve had the Panasonic, like you, it just works and I’ve tried all methods of tuning and update. Where I live I sometimes pick up two transmitters but they are from the same region, one is a relay of the other but the unwanted transmitter is weak. My friend on the other hand who has replaced his 9300 with a DMR-HWT150 (lives close but much higher) can receive from two regions. I’m not sure exactly what he did during tuning but he has two channels in the 800s from different multiplexes, where all the other channels from those multiplexes are I’ve no idea.
Stephenesque – 1 day ago »
Martin Liddle – 20 hours ago »
Stephenesque – 1 hour ago »
As that has always been what’s happened with my 9200Ts
If you go back far enough there was a time with the 9200T when the recording schedule was left intact. Whether or not recordings took place was of course a bit of a lottery depending on what had changed.
I actually bought my first 9200T on the day it was released but I have a terrible memory and can’t remember it doing that.
I believe the deletion of the schedule was introduced in 2007 via 1.00.15 with the start of freeview playback functionality being implemented.
Even though the original schedule is deleted, if one goes into the
recordingsscreen and then selects a recording that is already there, there will be an option to schedule further recordings of this series. Much easier than trying to remember or search everything afresh.SSThing – 4 days ago »
Even though the original schedule is deleted, if one goes into the
recordingsscreen and then selects a recording that is already there, there will be an option to schedule further recordings of this series. Much easier than trying to remember or search everything afresh.Thanks for that tip; I doubt I’d have thought of re-scheduling that way. Though hopefully I won’t have to.
I always take a picture of our recording schedule with my phone or Tablet. It makes rebuilding the schedule after it has been wiped a far easier task – certainly easier than pencil and paper.
SSThing – 4 days ago »
Even though the original schedule is deleted, if one goes into the
recordingsscreen and then selects a recording that is already there, there will be an option to schedule further recordings of this series. Much easier than trying to remember or search everything afresh.Good tip – I will remember to use this when I next retune.
I had an old PVR9200T before the new FVP4000T and I was hoping that they might have fixed this problem!!!
I (like others above) used to take pictures of the screen to allow me to reload the schedule manually afterwards.
I’ve emailed Humax about this and also the favourites list being deleted. I suggested an option to be able to back up both the schedule and the favourites which they said they will put to the engineers but i’m not holding my breath!
kevmull – 25 minutes ago »
I’ve emailed Humax about this and also the favourites list being deleted. I suggested an option to be able to back up both the schedule and the favourites which they said they will put to the engineers but i’m not holding my breath!
Are you sure that the situation hasn’t changed with the latest software?
Luke – 6 hours ago »
kevmull – 25 minutes ago »
I’ve emailed Humax about this and also the favourites list being deleted. I suggested an option to be able to back up both the schedule and the favourites which they said they will put to the engineers but i’m not holding my breath!
Are you sure that the situation hasn’t changed with the latest software?
Nothing has changed – That is my experience anyway.
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