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RobJF – 2 minutes ago »
Did the reset, “One Cable”.
I guess I need to try to find the signal meter and check the intermediate connections.
If the F connectors are the screw on type check they are firmly screwed on. If the cable is WF65 the very thin centre core sometimes fails to make contact, and might need a slight kink. Look for whisper of screen touching the centre core.
Thanks for the tips, I’ve already physically checked some connections, others are less accessible. Might take a while, I suppose I should look at using a loop instead of the second cable meanwhile…
RobJF – 14 hours ago »
Did the reset, “One Cable”.
I guess I need to try to find the signal meter and check the intermediate connections.
If you swap the cables and do another reset do you still get one cable or no signal?. Thinking perhaps One LNB port stuck on vertical.
I moved the box and managed to eliminate a pair of sat cable extensions then did another reset which found two cables. However, it still fails Graham’s test and a scheduled recording failed when the box was in standby but then started when I switched on, just as before.
I’ll try swapping the cables again now.
Edit: swapped and reset, back to one cable found. Does this make any sense at all?
Graham,
Any thoughts?
Your post with channels to check – Can you recheck Movies4Men, I see 11344H (flagged as new change) M4M +1 also flagged as changed (11344V). KingofSat flagged the changes as 27/09/2018.
RonJF – I would put some tape around one of the feeds.
Might be worth another cable swap test. Just to see if it again reports 2 feeds.
Graham, am I correct that Foxsat setup is just checking that both feeds can access the freesat transponder which is Horizonal polarised?
Swapped again, back to two cables found, but not before I fixed one of the connectors that was coming loose, just to complicate matters. The test went as before.
OK – don’t want to push things but if another swap says two cables then we would have cracked it.
I moved the box back, reconnecting the extension cables, so I don’t know whether swapped or not. Then I scheduled three recordings, with an overlap, which all succeeded, from standby. But the channel switch test still doesn’t work.
The recordings were on BBC1 HD Scot and BBC4 HD.
REPASSAC – 23 hours ago »
Graham,
Any thoughts?
Your post with channels to check – Can you recheck Movies4Men, I see 11344H (flagged as new change) M4M +1 also flagged as changed (11344V). KingofSat flagged the changes as 27/09/2018.
RonJF – I would put some tape around one of the feeds.
Might be worth another cable swap test. Just to see if it again reports 2 feeds.
Graham, am I correct that Foxsat setup is just checking that both feeds can access the freesat transponder which is Horizonal polarised?
Not sure how the box checks for two cables, however it would make sense for both tuners to contact the home transponder and download the postcode database data. Guessing it wouldn’t then check for a vertical chhannel. Just got home and have booted Foxsat to determine what transponder it reports for (957 using opt +
957 BBC One NI is vertical 10817 V 22000 5/6 so should be available to second tuner when tuner 1 is using low band horizontal with two cables.
RobJF – 1 day ago »
I moved the box and managed to eliminate a pair of sat cable extensions then did another reset which found two cables. However, it still fails Graham’s test and a scheduled recording failed when the box was in standby but then started when I switched on, just as before.
I’ll try swapping the cables again now.
Edit: swapped and reset, back to one cable found. Does this make any sense at all?
Guessing – when you have two cables connected to two lnb outputs both of which works with horizontally polarised transponders the number of cables found is falsely identified as having two working lnb outputs. This would appear to confirm lnb itself is broken.
Try the following after a two cables found setup.
This uses tuner 1 to record two channels at the same time thus tuner 2 should be able to access any other transponder in any band and of any polarisation.
Using Transponder 11023 H
Move to Channel 200 BBC News HD and press record, move to 973 BBC One Scotland and press record.
As you are now recording two you can’t actually record anything else but all epg channels on your postcode generated epg should be viewable. (though on a G2 box you can live pause any other viewable channel, but not on a Foxsat-HDR, On a G2 box on any third channel viewed from the programme start it can actually be recorded (from the time shift buffer) one one of the two recordings completes by simply pressing the instant record button
The following channels should all be viewable if they are on your epg due to post code.
Low Band Horizontal – If they aren’t most likely a (£20.00 lnb from e-bay will fix it)
104 Channel 4
122 E4 + 1
125 More4 + 1
300 Film4
974 Channel 4
108 BBC Two Eng
110 BBC Four
608 Cbeebies
950 BBC One Lon
951 BBC One CI
954 BBC One East W
965 BBC One West
968 BBC Two Eng
981 BBC RB 1
109 BBC ALBA
700 BBC Radio 1
701 BBC Radio 1X
702 BBC Radio 2
705 BBC Radio 5L
706 BBC Radio 5SX
709 BBC Asian Net
735 BBC R Cymru 2
955 BBC One N West
956 BBC One NE&C
959 BBC One S East
960 BBC One Scot
966 BBC One Yorks
970 BBC Two Scot
112 ITV +1 West
112 ITV +1 Wales
112 ITV Anglia East +1
103 ITV Wales
103 ITV West
103 ITV West Country South
112 ITV +1
114 ITV2+1
119 ITVBe+1
112 ITV West Country + 1
112 ITV Central West + 1
112 ITV London + 1
103 ITV Meridian TV South
103 ITV Tyne Tees TV North
103 ITV Yorkshire West
103 ITV Border
105 Channel 5 HD
128 Channel 5 +1
129 5 USA
130 5 USA +1
131 5STAR
133 My5
141 5Spike
112 ITV Tyne Tees
103 ITV Central East
103 ITV Border Scotland
112 ITV Yorkshire TV East +1
103 ITV Mediian TV North
103 ITV Anglia TV West
103 ITV Yorkshire TV East
107 BBC Four HD
200 BBC NEWS HD
601 CBeebies HD
973 BBC One ScotHD
976 BBC One Wal HD
119 ITV HD (Tyne Tees)
162 BLAZE
203 Al Jazeera Eng
516 KEEPITCOUNTRY
690 Inspiration TV
807 JewelleryMaker
140 BET
304 Movies4Men
305 Movies4Men+1
724 Absolute
726 Absolute 80s
733 Heart
786 BFBS Radio
691 DAYSTAR TV
120 S4C HD
139 horror ch+1
999 freesat info
801 QVC Beauty
802 QVC Extra
803 QVC Style
211 CGTN
171 YANGA!
719 Capital
720 Capital XTRA
721 Classic FM
722 Gold
723 Radio X
730 PlanetRock
732 Smooth RadioUK
750 RTE Radio 1
751 RTE 2fm
752 RTE Lyric fm
753 RTE RnaG
805 Gems TV
814 Jumela UK
817 Hochanda
250 Front Runner
724 Absolute
726 Absolute 80’s
733 Heart
734 LBC
786 BFBS Radio
691 DAYSTAR TV HD
207 CNN
Low Band Vertical
123 E4 + 1
124 More4
301 Film4 + 1
975 Channel 4 + 1
103 ITV
113 ITV2
117 ITV4
118 ITVBe
154 ITV4+1
602 CITV
977 ITV London
103 ITV London
103 ITV Granada
103 ITV Anglia East
103 ITV Central West
101 BBC One W Mid
201 BBC Parliament
703 BBC Radio 3
704 BBC Radio 4 FM
707 BBC 6Music
708 BBC Radio 4 Ex
710 BBC Radio 4 LW
711 BBC World Sv
712 BBC R Scotland
713 BBC RnGaidheal
714 BBC R Wales
715 BBC R Cymru
716 BBC R Ulster
717 BBCRadioFoyle
952 BBC One E Mid
953 BBC One East E
963 BBC One W Mid
964 BBC One Wales
967 BBC One Yk&Li
971 BBC Two Wales
212 BBC NEWS
607 CBBC
957 BBC One NI
958 BBC One Oxford
961 BBC One South
962 BBC One S West
969 BBC Two NI
102 BBC Two HD
106 BBC One HD
600 CBBC HD
972 BBC One HD
978 BBC One NI HD
115 ITV3
116 ITV3+1
731 talkSPORT
112 STV East + 1
103 STV North
103 STV Central West
103 STV Central East
112 ITV Granada + 1
103 ITV Channel TV
111 STV HD
111 ITV HD
111 ITV London HD
111 ITV Granada HD
111 ITV Meridian South HD
111 ITV Central West HD
111 ITV HD Anglia East
111 ITV HD Yorkshire West
127 4seven
206 RT HD
209 NHKWORLD-JAPAN
214 Arirang TV
692 Revelation
142 True Ent
143 Sony Crime
152 True Ent+ 1
154 true ent
302 True Movies
303 True Movies +1
501 The Vault
603 POP
605 Tiny Pop
604 POP Max
606 POP +1
134 CBS Drama
136 CBS Reality +1
139 horror ch+1
135 CBS Reality
137 CBS Action
138 horror channel
156 YourTV
693 ISLAM CHANNEL
695 Sonlife TV
143 Sony Crime 2
148 Food Network
149 Food Network+1
155 PBS America
167 QUEST HD
205 FRANCE 24(ENG)
252 Freesports
210 CNBC
215 TRT World
306 TalkingPics TV
790 TWR
694 GOD Channel
806 JML Direct
151 Travel Ch +1
161 CLTV
171 YANGA!
213 CHANNELS24
695 Sonlife TV
809 TJC
812 Ideal World
813 Create & Craft
208 Bloomberg TV
691 DAYSTAR TV HD
High Band Horizontal
146 Challenge
147 Challenge +1
165 Forces TV
121 Channel 4 + 1
168 QUEST +1
169 QUEST RED +1
170 QUEST RED
172 QUEST
506 Heart TV
507 CAPITAL TV
High Band Vertical
157 Dave
158 Drama
159 Yesterday
160 Really
166 Home
144 PICK
145 PICK +1
202 Sky News
164 Together
Notice the small number of high band channels in total
grahamlthompson – 2 hours ago »
RobJF – 1 day ago »
I moved the box and managed to eliminate a pair of sat cable extensions then did another reset which found two cables. However, it still fails Graham’s test and a scheduled recording failed when the box was in standby but then started when I switched on, just as before.
I’ll try swapping the cables again now.
Edit: swapped and reset, back to one cable found. Does this make any sense at all?
Guessing – when you have two cables connected to two lnb outputs both of which works with horizontally polarised transponders the number of cables found is falsely identified as having two working lnb outputs. This would appear to confirm lnb itself is broken. …………………………….
My thoughts were similar – i.e. that at least one LNB port was defective. In view on the small replacement cost of a self fit, I would just buy one.
OK, I’ve now confirmed that with cables one way round only one is found, but swapping them gets two.
With two cables found and recording 973 and 200 I can watch channels from all four groups. (With one found I get “no or bad signal” on all but the first group.)
Sorry but I haven’t been able to follow all of the discussion above, does this mean I need a new LNB or not? (I understand they’re cheap but access is a real hassle.)
RobJF – 4 minutes ago »
OK, I’ve now confirmed that with cables one way round only one is found, but swapping them gets two.
With two cables found and recording 973 and 200 I can watch channels from all four groups. (With one found I get “no or bad signal” on all but the first group.)
Sorry but I haven’t been able to follow all of the discussion above, does this mean I need a new LNB or not? (I understand they’re cheap but access is a real hassle.)
On the face of it if you can watch all the suggested channels when recording two from the suggested transponder ( Bear in mind some will missing down to your post code – English ITV regions for instance)
pick the lowest channel number in each group and cycle up by using the up channel button. Only by checking each can the dish alignment be checked. It’s possible a dish alignment issue or an odd lnb fault could be failing some 2nd tuner recordings. If you get all then we can try out recording two from a vertical transponder rather than horizontal.
I take it you don’t have any other connected satellite kit connected like a Sky-HD box or generic FTA box, connected to the two spare outputs you are to likely have on a four output quad lnb ?
RobJF – Thanks for a most interesting problem to think about. My money is on one LNB port is unable to select V transponders.
I always keep a spare LNB in my garage as I need a different type for my distribution system and it is only possible to a universal here at over the top prices.
BTW – Do you use padding (Hopefully not)?
While recording 200 and 973 I can watch all other channels.
There’s nothing else connected to the LNB.
I don’t use padding.
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