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sceedy – 1 hour ago »
Thanks for the offer, the links at the start of this topic still work fine.
Going off topic, the firmware was not my problem. I looked on the status page and my origional version was 1.0.10. After using the flashing program linked to by this topic, I ended up with 1.0.23. The most difficult part was tracking down a null modem. I fitted an ATA to SATA hardware only adaptor and tried an 80GB, 160GB and 1T drive. The 80GB drive caused the 9200T to “hang” with —- on the lhs of the display. The other 2 asked if I wanted to format but ended up with 140GB of usable space. I recorded 48 hours of programs and managed to do both way xfer to a PC with both drives. I was hopeing that after the upgrade the 1T would show more usable space, but this did not happen! Such is life when you hack (in the ethical sense of the word i.e. modify tech).
My goal is to fit an SSD i.e. remove the only moving part so there is nothing to wear out any more. 1Ts did not exist when the unit was manufactured so I will try a second hand 500G from somewhere as they are only around £10 to see if it is the software not understanding the disk capacity of something far bigger than it was expecting. If it understands the 500G it will be worth spending the extra on a larger SSD (Solid State Drive) otherwise I am only looking for a 160G.
There might not be a moving part, but each and every memory location on a SSD has a finite number of write and read operations. It’s possible by clever manipulation to spread the read/write operations across the disk.
The time shift buffer on a PVR is constantly writing the current viewed programme content. That alone will eventually wear out a SSD long before a conventional sata HDD will have issues.
SSD’s are great for storing rapid access to Operating Systems like Windows, where changes compared to those associated with a pvr are small.
My 2008 Foxsat-HDR has it’s 1TB drive installed in 2008 and is still used everyday.
In a PVR application the extra speed adds nothing to the response time of the box. Even the lowest speed drives are more than fast enough to satisfy multiple HD stream recordings and playback multiple recordings at the same time.
Consider USB2.0 is fast enough to record two HD streams and playback a HD recording at the same time.
sceedy – 2 hours ago »
The other 2 asked if I wanted to format but ended up with 140GB of usable space.
There is a finite disk size limit for the 9200T and I think it is about 500GB so if you only ended up with 140GB from a 1TB drive something is wrong and my best guess would be the ATA to SATA adapter? What type is it please?
I certainly would not advise you to spend money on an SSD drive for a 9200T. You won’t get any speed benefit and the life will be finite. More importantly there are much better Humax boxes than the 9200T which these days struggles with insufficient RAM if tuned to a full set of multiplexes. Get a secondhand HDR-FOX T2 which is a much more competent PVR.
I have delayed replying because every time I do this discussion goes even more off topic. The responses are almost too helpfull.
To answer the questions :-
I do understand the SSD’s block write limitations, but they are silent, which is a big advantage for a bedroom. The hum from an overnight recording wakes me about 1 time in 5, hence people talking about a hummy hummy!
The advice about the HDR-FOX T2 being better for what I want is spot on. I have been reading the manual, posts etc. and will post a list of unanswered questions when I am happy that a rtfw response would be unjustified.
I got the usable space I expected when I borrowed a 320G and 500G drive.
The SATA to IDE adapter is the sort that plugs into the drive from ebay e.g. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pro-PATA-IDE-TO-SATA-Converter-Adapter-Plug-Play-7-15-Pin-3-5-2-5-SATA-DVD-VM/202071106873?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649. They have no manufacturer or part number markings on them and I have never had any problems with them even in a win 3.11 pc and a surveylance system.
Thanks for all your help and advice.
sceedy – 2 minutes ago »
I have delayed replying because every time I do this discussion goes even more off topic. The responses are almost too helpfull.
To answer the questions :-
I do understand the SSD’s block write limitations, but they are silent, which is a big advantage for a bedroom. The hum from an overnight recording wakes me about 1 time in 5, hence people talking about a hummy hummy!
The advice about the HDR-FOX T2 being better for what I want is spot on. I have been reading the manual, posts etc. and will post a list of unanswered questions when I am happy that a rtfw response would be unjustified.
I got the usable space I expected when I borrowed a 320G and 500G drive.
The SATA to IDE adapter is the sort that plugs into the drive from ebay e.g. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pro-PATA-IDE-TO-SATA-Converter-Adapter-Plug-Play-7-15-Pin-3-5-2-5-SATA-DVD-VM/202071106873?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649. They have no manufacturer or part number markings on them and I have never had any problems with them even in a win 3.11 pc and a surveylance system.
Thanks for all your help and advice.
Locate the HDR-FOX-T2 outside the bedroom. Install the CF and use a silent android box with a DLNA client to stream it’s recordings to a bedroom TV. Alternatively locate the box at any point with a aerial and connect to a bedroom TV with a cat single cat 6 cable and a pair of baluns with IR return built in.
If you want to install by the main TV use the model with the built in HDMI splitter and connect it to the main TV as well.
Thank you so much for the firmware and loader software. I found an old Humax 9200T in the loft and discovered its still on firmware from 2007. I tuned it in to an old analogue TV but there is no sound and some channels just will not diaplay probably due to the signal coding change.
I will attempt to upgrade the firmware and loader later. Cheers!
When downloading the firmware and laoder files I keep getting message “file incomplete” then the download restarts.
Anyone have the files available that can be downloaded please. Thanks.
An email I received in 2014. Files are mirrored here for 7 days – https://we.tl/t-8Vg1bsq7jH
(I am OP of this thread)
Quote:Dear Rob,Thank you for contacting Humax Support.
Please accept my apologies for the delay in response to your email query, unfortunately we have experienced a large number of contacts which has concluded with a backlog and increased response times.
To update your unit using a serial connection you will need a Serial Cable (RS232 Female to Female), A Computer with a Serial Connection and the Humax you wish to update, also the software found attached.
Please Note:Updating with a USB adapter is possible, please see information towards the end of the email BEFORE following the instructions bellow;
To install the software onto the Humax unit you will need the download the transfer tool; WDN4OAK+ this can be found at the link below.
http://beta.humaxonline.co.uk/freeview-sd
Once you have the zipped file downloaded you will need to extract its contents to your computer, do this by right clicking the file and choosing to extract;
Once the file has been extracted open the folder and run the Setup.exe by double clicking the file shown;
You should be presented with the installation just follow the on screen steps to complete this and install the programme to your PC (Please make sure your administrator to avoid any restrictions)
Once the software has been installed please open your start menu, find the programme and run it,
Once you have the software running please press the Folder icon to locate the software;
You then need to find the software and open the file that you would have downloaded earlier from the website;
Once you have opened the file you need to have the Computer connected to your Humax with the RS232 cable, your Humax should be powered OFF at this point, the unit will need to be plugged in but an aerial or scart cable isn’t needed, when you have the unit connected up fully press the DOWNLOAD button on the computer software;
When you have done this you need to power on the Humax and you should begin to see the update progress on the PC and the front of the unit (if it has a LCD display)
Once the software update is complete your unit will display END and the downloader will disappear from the PC leaving the WDN4OAK tool, just power off the Humax, disconnect the RS232 cable and reconnect the unit back to your TV,
You should now have an updated unit; your software version can be checked by going into the Humax;
Menu > System > Status
Please Note:Only follow these instructions if you wish to update using USB, These steps must be followed before those above;
If you want to update using a USB cable then you will need an RS232 cable and an adapter;
Once you have an adapter plug it into your PC and you should get an installation wizard appear;
Follow the on screen steps to install this software, if you are provided with a disk for this adapter you should install the drivers from here,
Once you have all the drivers installed you will need to check the port and bit rate, firstly go into the start menu and right click on my computer choosing properties;
Once in the properties menu choose the hardware tab at the top of the menu and click on the Device Manager option;
Once you have opened the device manager you will need to expand the PORTS option and right click on the USB-to-Serial Port and choose properties;
Once you have the properties open you will need to choose the port settings tab at the top of the menu, then choose the “Bits per second” option and change it to “115200”;
After doing this choose the ADVANCED option on the menu;
When you have the advanced menu in front of you change the port setting to PORT1;
Once you have done this OK all the settings and this will have the USB adapter ready, plug in the Serial cable and follow the instructions above.
Best Regards,
John B
Humax Customer Support
Edit: removed duplicate post
Hi Rob, Many thanks for the info and links to the downloads.
I have downloaded the files, have resurrected an old laptop with a serial port I used for cisco configurations and a USB to serial adapter. I will make an attempt at the upgrade later this week.
Much appreciated, cheers.
No problem at all. I am glad you were able to snag the wetransfer files before they expired. This forum rejected the files when I tried to upload them here. All the best.
Erich – 14 mins ago »
I have downloaded the files, have resurrected an old laptop with a serial port I used for cisco configurations and a USB to serial adapter. I will make an attempt at the upgrade later this week.
Can I politely suggest you use flash900 to do the upgrade rather than the dire WDN4OAK+ , I write Flash9200 as so many people were struggling. It is freeware and can be downloaded from https://tynecomp.co.uk/flash9200.html
Ah yes sorry about that Martin, as I was quoting the email from Humax verbatim I felt it made sense to include the software that they referred to a well. No offense intended or taken.
robgsr – 13 mins ago »
Ah yes sorry about that Martin, as I was quoting the email from Humax verbatim I felt it made sense to include the software that they referred to a well. No offense intended or taken.
I don’t take any offence; just offering an alternative that has helped a fair number of people.
Hi Rob,
finally managed to upgrade the firmware on my 9200T. Had to purchase a replacement female to female serial crossover cable as couldn’t locate my old one. The XP laptop I have doesn’t have a serial port so had to use a U232-P9 USB to serial converter. Tried on Win10 but it doesn’t like serial port converters so back to XP, Putty and COM1. Got a connection, ran flash 9200 software, updated the firmware. BINGO! All sorted. Rebooted, set Humax for Pal G rescanned channels, video and sound perfect. Thanks very much for your help.
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