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uk1 – 52 minutes ago »
I’m sorry Graham, I don’t understand your question.
What don’t you understand. It seems pretty simple to me.
If you have a pvr in a bedroom and you use it to record overnight then clearly it needs to be very quiet.
If you have a pvr in a lounge, kitchen whatever and you need to listen to the audio, then under normal conditions there is no way you will hear the low level sound from a AV hard disk. These are low speed devices designed to minimise power consumption and noise at the expense of slower data transfer speeds. The data transfer speed is way above what is required for any current pvr.
Because most of my kit is in a rack remote from my TV I sit very close to 3 out of the 4 pvrs (about 1.5M). My Foxsat-HDR is under TV, TV front left and right and centre and subwoofer are around 3M away).
Even listening at low volume the 3 pvrs in my rack cannot be heard even when they are all in use.
Even muting the sound I have to get within a foot or so to hear the disk drives.
If you listen to the audio using a flat screen TV with minute speakers with less bass output than a transistor radio then not surprised you have an issue. The sound you get from a flat screen TV is horrendous.
Try a decent pair of headphones.
Currently watching Blu-Planet II in glorious 5.1 sound. It’s not loud but you feel like you should be wearing breathing kit.
Surrounded by bubbles at the moment, not exactly the loudest sounds.
Graham, perhaps you have missed the point that your generalisation isn’t true for everyone. The thread is from a person complaining about a noisy drive. Just because you cannot hear the HD, it doesn’t mean that Peter doesn’t.
I no longer have a 5000T. Just a gap where the cash use to be.
Not me I have 5 current Humax boxes in current use 4 of them in the same room. Currently I have paused the curent one I am viewing. All i can hear is a ticking clock and the slight hum from my subwoofer.
That indicates to me that Peter has a much noisier than normal hard drive nothing else. I have a noise meter used to set up 5.1 systems, i wouldn’t even register anything.
I take it you are the same poster that posts on AVForum as Visionman ?
uk1 – 4 minutes ago »
Graham, perhaps you have missed the point that your generalisation isn’t true for everyone. The thread is from a person complaining about a noisy drive. Just because you cannot hear the HD, it doesn’t mean others don’t.
I no longer have a 5000T. Just a gap where the cash use to be.
As usual, you need to look at the audio output figures in dB from a hard drive spec compared to the normal levels experienced. I happen to have a audio meter used to set up 5.1 systems. I could use it to prove you haven’t a clue what you are talking about. Suggest you give up before you look any more biassed than you already do. I take it you post on other forums as VisionMan.
Graham, your two posts are just weird.
How can I “not have a clue”” if I have made no complaint at all about a noisy drive on the 500Ot I just returned? I have no bias at all with respect to noisy drives and you clearly are confusing me with some other poster you clearly disagree with on some other forum. I have no idea who Visionman is and post on no other related forums. I have more than five Humax boxes in two homes and have no problems with noisy drives. I consider myself to be a Humax enthusiast but simply didn’t rate the 5000t is much as the other boxes I have. I did have a noisy Huwy but that was a freeby from Youview and was binned after the beta test.
I registered here solely to gain access to 5000t experience prior to and during my purchase and i have reported factually on my experience. All I did on this thread was innocently offer the opinion that SSDs might in time be a better future solution in PVRs. I’m sorry you found the opinion sufficiently offensive to indulge yourself in this personal and totally unjustified attack.
Following mymprevious post, I’ve just googled your name and visionman and see you both argue on AVforum.
As I told you previously I remember your name and I use to post on AVforum using exactly the same name as here. ie uk1. I registered in March 2006 and I can see that I haven’t posted there since 2013. You can easily check my posts there. Presumably visionman posted under that name whilst I posted as uk1?
I have always treated you with courtsey and respect both previously on AVforum and here.
Graham,
I have just read your latest exchanges with visionman on AVForum where you discuss the main large thread on the 5000t here. You have accused me of being visionman and accused visionman of being the poster of post 304 here ie Marius. Perhaps you think I’m Marius as well as visionman and uk1?
The 5000t was my first Freeview pvr experience since the 9150/9200.
Yes come on guys no need for any animosity here
I am not saying Humax generally make bad products. On the contrary they have a good reputation which is why my noise issue shocked me.
I know mine was the 2000T and I probably shouldnt hone in on the 5000 but noise topic titles interest me. I believe its a real issue and people arent making it up when they cant live with it
When a noise issue arises it didnt matter if the TV was on at reasonable volumes because the chuntering noise still disturbs viewing especially in the quiet scenes. Reading a book with it recording was out of the question. I sorted it with case soundproofing material, metal and rubber washers and a plastic shield over the hard drive. Point is Humax removed the plastic cowl shielding and had no damping in the MK2 version I bought. I wasnt the only one complaining.
Im very happy for all Humax owners that have never experienced noise like this and hope its the vast majority of customers.
Best wishes
Thanks Minstrel,
I found it totally bewildering.
I hadn’t realised that by simply suggesting that an eventual move to SSDs from HDs would solve the problem you had identified with your 5000t, which I hadn’t found on my box would result in trench warfare. Graham seems to have convinced himself that I am someone else that he argues with on another forum, and it seems that whatever I posted seemed to prove to him that he was right, and was worth arguing about and whilst I think I know how to prove who I am, I have yet to work out how to prove to someone like Graham that I am not someone else. It is regrettable that anyone is allowed to post personal attacks on others.
Anyway, I had clearly under-estimated the degree of intolerance there is to posting ones experiences and impressions. I remain a Hummy and Youview enthusiast but not currently an enthusiast of the 5000t
The FVP-5000T is the 4th PVR we’ve owned and it has by far the quietest hard disk drive. The noisiest one is a Sony machine whose whirrs and ‘scratches’ can be heard over the audio from 3m away. It’s always been like that and it crashes about once a week, too. It seems odd that a machine that records or plays back continuous data streams should need to move the read/write heads so much. It’s not like it needs to flick between folders like a PC.
Have just found this post after posting about the noise on another post.
I have just bought a 5000T & also use a Panasonic & a Humax Fox-sat which are both quiet.
I too am finding the chatering noise annoying Why does this 5000T make a noise when others dont? I have a CCTV which records constantly & doesnt make a noise.
Is Humax using the right Hard drives IE a purple one?
Humax usually use Seagate Pipeline drives these are described as “Cool – Quiet – Low Power”.
Purple drives are a WD description others describe the drive as CE/AV/DVR.
It is possible your unit has been mishandled in transit.
Well this one isnt quiet & it gets hot, you can feel it with your hand.
The only time I can hear my FVP-5000T 2TB drive is when the unit boots for a second or so as the drive spins up. After that it’s inaudible unless you get within a foot or so of the unit.
andysue – 20 hours ago »
Have just found this post after posting about the noise on another post.
I have just bought a 5000T & also use a Panasonic & a Humax Fox-sat which are both quiet.
I too am finding the chatering noise annoying Why does this 5000T make a noise when others dont? I have a CCTV which records constantly & doesnt make a noise.
Is Humax using the right Hard drives IE a purple one?
Hmm interesting because there is definately something about the noise issue. Consider taking it back because if you cant live with it now, it wont get any easier.
I have the seagate drive in a 2000T and a combination of no damping and the casing amplifying the noise made it impossible to relax to. I sorted it with a diy project but voided my two year warranty in the process.
Im not over sensitive and could hear the thing chattering away from in the kitchen.
I proved I could reduce the noise significantly which means its a lack of careful design issue. Those hard drives do a lot of work and they need damping and shielding.
From my point of view Im interested what Humax have done with later models like the 5000T which will record more channels.
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