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March 17, 2016 at 6:18 pm #69500
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Inactivebrian – 9 hours ago »
Chris…K – 2 hours ago »
They don’t need to recruit a panel
They just need to use it
I’ve had one for less than a week and I have a list
I don’t think the software designer has ever used a pvr
Does this mean that you are going to register your interest in the trial?
I don’t think that the trial is going to resolve the poor interfaces which are simply shocking. As if designed by a 3 year old.
March 18, 2016 at 8:09 am #69501Anonymous
InactiveQuote:I don’t think that the trial is going to resolve the poor interfaces which are simply shocking. As if designed by a 3 year old.Can I suggest you re-read Barry’s post which says
Quote:Humax are preparing new features on our Freeview Play FVP-4000T 500GB and 1TB models and prior to public release, we would like to run a trial offer including an updated interface and new services!Just what do you want?
To wallow in your pit of self pity that the box does not do what you want?
Or do you want to help Humax to fix it by testing it and telling them what you do not like about it?
How many other manufacturers are so willing to seek customer opinion?
I heard a presentation from the IBM person who lead the team which wrote the on-board software for the shuttle. IBM delivered it error free. There were 300 people on the team – 100 wrote the technical specification in accordance with the contractual requirements. 100 wrote the software. 100 wrote the test harness. The project cost millions.
The software in the Humax probably has more lines of code than the shuttle software. The software has to cope with equipment – TVs – which may not even have on the market when the software was specified. If Humax did what IBM did each PVR would cost tens of thousands of pounds.
Perfect indeed – but I doubt you or anyone else would buy it. Humax would go bust.
Sign up for the trial and give your opinions to Humax. Don’t moan “I don’t like …”. Say “I would prefer it if you did …”
Rant over.
March 19, 2016 at 5:37 pm #69502Anonymous
InactiveIf I were Humax I don’t think I would find it all obvious what to include in the next functional release.
[list]NETFLIX – Already in public focus, so yes
MENU reformats?
MENU work flow improvements?
Not losing schedule on retune (to compete with post March 2016 rival Freeview PVRs)?
Intelligent retunes (to compete with post March 2016 rival Freeview PVRs)?
Identification of broadcast changes (if not already included in preparation for the new metadata)?
Optional use of alternative remote that has an i button ?[/list]
to name a few which Humax may have considered.
There are also bug fixes to consider. Only those where the root cause has been located could proceed to being scheduled for being fixed or its publicly perceived impact being reduced. Any changes for fixes to the same code or/and functional area as the improvements can have knock one effects on delivery of those fixes and improvements.
I can’t confidentially predict what will be included in the next significant release but I am certain that due to different priorities not every PVR-4000T owner, or potential purchaser, will have their desired prime update included.
March 19, 2016 at 11:19 pm #69503Anonymous
InactiveQuote:To wallow in your pit of self pity that the box does not do what you want?We just want it to work. As for innovation. Sometimes there’s no need to innovate. After all listing TV programmes in a sensible layout is hardly difficult. Perhaps it’s all designed on 60″ screens.
March 20, 2016 at 8:29 pm #69504grahamlthompson
ParticipantThrugelmir – 21 hours ago »
Quote:To wallow in your pit of self pity that the box does not do what you want?We just want it to work. As for innovation. Sometimes there’s no need to innovate. After all listing TV programmes in a sensible layout is hardly difficult. Perhaps it’s all designed on 60″ screens.
A tad confused. A 60″ screen would just make the epg view larger, it would have the same information, just larger. The opposite must be true, the large epg is easier to read on small screens.
March 21, 2016 at 7:56 am #69505Anonymous
InactiveThrugelmir – 1 day ago »
Quote:To wallow in your pit of self pity that the box does not do what you want?We just want it to work. As for innovation. Sometimes there’s no need to innovate. After all listing TV programmes in a sensible layout is hardly difficult. Perhaps it’s all designed on 60″ screens.
It’s not difficult for the software to read start size screen you’re using, or even get the user to type it in the settings and scale the menu to suit the user
It’s not rocket science and the sort of stuff I used to programme for fun back in 1985
I have 42 screen soon to be 50 and the menu s are HUUUUUUUUGE and only show 1/2 programmes per screen in the guide
I am brilliant at algorithm and analogy, only had the box 10 minutes and could already make huge improvements to the user interface. so if Humax ever want make their otherwise excellent PVR beyond peers get in touch and I’ll do it for free
It begs why a company would produce a first class price of hardware then let a chimpanzee develop the user interface
They’re are some flaws that only someone that has never ever used it could possibly overlook
I would love to know which PVR they do user
March 21, 2016 at 9:50 am #69506Anonymous
InactiveThere was a post at First impressions glitches vs pros which listed quite a few things people wanted improved.
March 21, 2016 at 6:18 pm #69507Anonymous
Inactivegrahamlthompson – 21 hours ago »
Thrugelmir – 21 hours ago »
Quote:To wallow in your pit of self pity that the box does not do what you want?We just want it to work. As for innovation. Sometimes there’s no need to innovate. After all listing TV programmes in a sensible layout is hardly difficult. Perhaps it’s all designed on 60″ screens.
A tad confused. A 60″ screen would just make the epg view larger, it would have the same information, just larger. The opposite must be true, the large epg is easier to read on small screens.
My comment was purely an observation. The EPG is a negative feature on this model. Not least if that you set up to tape a single programme it doesn’t indicate this on the EPG. Does for a series though.
March 21, 2016 at 7:12 pm #69508Barry
ModeratorOne off timers show a rec icon in the EPG for me.
HD/SD confusion?
March 22, 2016 at 6:39 pm #69509Anonymous
InactiveI’ve had the email about the trial, which I appear to have been accepted on!
Rick.
March 22, 2016 at 6:47 pm #69510Anonymous
Inactivericke17 – 7 minutes ago »
I’ve had the email about the trial, which I appear to have been accepted on!
Rick.
I guess from your comment that those on the trial are permitted to say that they are on the trial!
March 22, 2016 at 6:49 pm #69511Anonymous
InactiveThere was nothing in the email to say I cannot mention it – if I shouldn’t have said so, Mod, please delete my comment.
Ooops!
March 22, 2016 at 8:28 pm #69512Barry
ModeratorIf member(s) want to divulge that they have been accepted so be it, however there is to be no discussion of the trial software in open forum.
March 23, 2016 at 8:54 am #69513Anonymous
InactiveHi Barry,
Do we need to restrict trial software discussions to P.M’s ?
March 23, 2016 at 10:06 am #69514Anonymous
InactiveBarry – 13 hours ago »
If member(s) want to divulge that they have been accepted so be it, however there is to be no discussion of the trial software in open forum.
Presumably that is a decision of the Forum alone?
I can’t see any such restriction in the trial details emailed to me by Humax yesterday.
Richard
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