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March 1, 2021 at 11:44 am #103541
Anonymous
InactiveEast Kent
Yes I can get at it but not today, my son has my ladder until tomorrow pm!
March 1, 2021 at 11:58 am #103542grahamlthompson
ParticipantCantata – 3 mins ago »
East Kent
Yes I can get at it but not today, my son has my ladder until tomorrow pm!
The further South you are the stronger the signal so should be easy to fix.
Here is what you do.
First check azimuth (direction dish is pointing. With someone watching the diagnostics
Press on the dish back centre to flex the dish to point slightly more easterly. Wait for the tuner to respond to the change. If the quality goes up. Slacken the azimuth and nudge the dish slightly more easterly. If it goes down you need to nudge the dish slightly more westerly. Repeat till you find a point where pressing right and left causes the quality to go down. lock down the adjuster.
Repeat the procedure top and bottom the get the correct elevation.
Lastly slacken the lnb clamp. move it forward and back to get the best quality (focus),
Then rotate the lnb slightly. Check a vertical and horizontal channel signal.
I will post a recording test for you.
March 1, 2021 at 12:06 pm #103543grahamlthompson
ParticipantAll the channels will be Low Band Horizontal
enter 174 to tune BBC Scotland-HD. Press the record button
enter 112 to tune ITV+1 Press the record button.
All the following should be viewable – assuming you are choosing ITV regional channels your postcode has made visible
109 BBC ALBA 10802 H
174 BBC Scotland HD 10802 H
700 BBC Radio 1 10802 H
701 BBC Radio 1X 10802 H
702 BBC Radio 2 10802 H
705 BBC Radio 5L 10802 H
706 BBC Radio 5SX 10802 H
709 BBC Asian Net 10802 H
735 BBC R Cymru 2 10802 H
955 BBC One N West 10802 H
956 BBC One NE&C 10802 H
959 BBC One S East 10802 H
960 BBC One Scot 10802 H
966 BBC One Yorks 10802 H
970 BBC Two Scot 10802 H
112 ITV +1 West 10832 H
112 ITV +1 Wales 10832 H
112 ITV Anglia East +1 10832 H
103 ITV Wales 10832 H
103 ITV West 10832 H
103 ITV West Country South 10832 H
112 ITV +1 10891 H
114 ITV2+1 10891 H
119 ITVBe+1 10891 H
112 ITV West Country + 1 10891 H
112 ITV Central West + 1 10891 H
112 ITV London + 1 10891 H
103 ITV Meridian TV South 10891 H
103 ITV Tyne Tees TV North 10891 H
103 ITV Yorkshire West 10891 H
103 ITV Border 10891 H
105 Channel 5 HD 10964 H
128 Channel 5 +1 10964 H
129 5 USA 10964 H
130 5 USA +1 10964 H
132 Paramount 10964 H
131 5STAR 10964 H
133 My5 10964 H
141 5Spike 10964 H
112 ITV Tyne Tees 10994 H
103 ITV Central East 10994 H
103 ITV Border Scotland 10994 H
112 ITV Yorkshire TV East +1 10994 H
103 ITV Mediian TV North 10994 H
103 ITV Anglia TV West 10994 H
103 ITV Yorkshire TV East 10994 H
107 BBC Four HD 11023 H
108 BBC Scotland HD 11023 H
200 BBC NEWS HD 11023 H
601 CBeebies HD 11023 H
973 BBC One ScotHD 11023 H
976 BBC One Wal HD 11023 H
119 ITV HD (Tyne Tees) 11053 H
162 BLAZE 11082 H
203 Al Jazeera Eng 11082 H
207 CNN 11082 H
516 Spotlight TV 11082 H
690 Inspiration TV 11082 H
807 JewelleryMaker 11082 H
140 BET 11141 H
724 Absolute 11223 H
726 Absolute 80s 11223 H
733 Heart 11223 H
786 BFBS Radio 11223 H
691 DAYSTAR TV 11263 H
155 PBS America 11344 H
731 TalkSPORT 11582 H
160 Really 12129 V
166 HGTV 12129 V
139 horror ch+1 11389 H
999 freesat info 11427 H
801 QVC Beauty 11493 H
802 QVC Extra 11493 H
803 QVC Style 11493 H
800 QVC 11493 H
171 YANGA! 11552 H
176 Live 360 11552 H
719 Capital 11552 H
720 Capital XTRA 11552 H
721 Classic FM 11552 H
722 Gold 11552 H
723 Radio X 11552 H
730 PlanetRock 11552 H
732 Smooth RadioUK 11552 H
736 Virgin Radio 11552 H
750 RTE Radio 1 11552 H
751 RTE 2fm 11552 H
752 RTE Lyric fm 11552 H
753 RTE RnaG 11552 H
790 TWR 11552 H
805 Gems TV 11552 H
817 HOCHANDA CRAFT 11552 H
724 Absolute 11582 H
726 Absolute 80’s 11582 H
733 Heart 11582 H
734 LBC 11582 H
786 BFBS Radio 11582 H
691 DAYSTAR TV HD 11612 H
812 IDEAL WORLD 11667 H
813 CREAT&CRAFT 11667 H
March 1, 2021 at 12:24 pm #103544Anonymous
InactiveBrilliant, thanks so much for your help so far.
I will retrieve my ladder tomorrow and report back on here in a day or two.
March 1, 2021 at 3:45 pm #103545Anonymous
InactiveThis perhaps should be a new post but I am puzzled. After installing a new dish and (eventually) getting the alignment OK I was able to enter my postcode be and scan for channels. Curiously, despite being in Cornwall it gives me local (Southwest) ones but also various Scottish ones. Is this a faulty database from the satellite ?
March 1, 2021 at 3:48 pm #103546grahamlthompson
Participanthairless – 2 mins ago »
This perhaps should be a new post but I am puzzled. After installing a new dish and (eventually) getting the alignment OK I was able to enter my postcode be and scan for channels. Curiously, despite being in Cornwall it gives me local (Southwest) ones but also various Scottish ones. Is this a faulty database from the satellite ?
Whatever postcode you use everyone gets these.
949 BBC Two HD
950 BBC 1 London
951 BBC 1 CI
952 BBC 1 E Mids
953 BBC 1 East (E)
954 BBC 1 East (W)
955 BBC 1 N West
956 BBC 1 NE & C
957 BBC 1 NI
958 BBC 1 Oxford
959 BBC 1 S East
960 BBC 1 Scotland
961 BBC 1 South
962 BBC 1 S West
963 BBC 1 W Mids
964 BBC 1 Wales
965 BBC 1 West
966 BBC 1 Yorks
967 BBC 1 EYrks&L
968 BBC 2 England
969 BBC 2 NI
970 BBC 2 Scotland
971 BBC 2 Wales HD
972 BBC ONE HD (England)
973 BBC 1 Scot HD
974 Channel 4
975 Channel 4 + 1
976 BBC 1 Wales HD
977 ITV
978 BBC 1 NI HD
979 BBC Two Wales
999 Freesat Info
977 is ITV-London –
March 1, 2021 at 4:00 pm #103547Anonymous
InactiveYes I get those but also 108 BBC Sco HD, 109 BBC Alba, 174 BBC Scotland. Not a problem, but why ?
March 1, 2021 at 4:13 pm #103548grahamlthompson
Participanthairless – 9 mins ago »
Yes I get those but also 108 BBC Sco HD, 109 BBC Alba, 174 BBC Scotland. Not a problem, but why ?
Unlike ITV who want you to watch local adverts, The BBC don’t mind you having all the nations HD channels and regional channels in the epg.
977 is there because it’s the only one that has audio description for visually impaired users.
The box has an edit channels option that means you can replace the lower number postcode allocations with any from this block of channels.
If you install the custom firmware for the box (AV forums) you can unhide the hidden ITV channels and get full epg details. You can also add Channel-4-HD to the freesat epg by tuning it in non freesat mode. You can then set manual recording timers from freesat mode,
March 1, 2021 at 4:22 pm #103549Anonymous
InactiveSounds like it’s all working correctly then. After a lifetime in electronics as a graduate engineer with my own company, and an occasional radio amateur since the 1960s, I find a lot this stuff both amazing and incredibly complex. Thanks for your help.
March 1, 2021 at 4:31 pm #103550grahamlthompson
Participanthairless – 9 mins ago »
Sounds like it’s all working correctly then. After a lifetime in electronics as a graduate engineer with my own company, and an occasional radio amateur since the 1960s, I find a lot this stuff both amazing and incredibly complex. Thanks for your help.
Did you check the signal levels as detailed above ?
March 1, 2021 at 8:59 pm #103551Anonymous
InactiveSorry, I missed anything about signal levels ?
March 1, 2021 at 9:22 pm #103552grahamlthompson
ParticipantIf you tune to any channel and press menu- system diagnostics.
It will show the signal level and the more important quality percentages.
Most Freesat channels are on the UK spot transponders that have a focussed beam on the UK. Any of these should easily get 100/100 on a Foxsat-HDR which has excellent tuner sensitivity. A few are on the wide beam europe beam transponders. Because the beam covers a much larger area the field strength is lower. So you will likely get a lower signal strength but if your dish alignment is spot on you should still get 100% quality.
Think of a torch you can focus. tiny footprint is bright large is dim. Light and microwave energy are very similar. A dish is reflecting telescope for microwave frequncies. The LNB is the mirror used to collect photons in a optical telescope
The red larger area is the Europe beam coverage.
Look for the Europe beam transponders here.
https://en.kingofsat.net/freqs.php?&pos=28.2E&standard=All&ordre=freq&filtre=Clear
Example NHK World-HD is on a Europe beam transponder
209 NHKWORLD-JAPAN 11225 V
Tune to 209 and post the signal level and quality.
If you can get a solid stable signal on 209. Your dish alignment is good. If not follow the fine tune adjustment instructions posted above.
If not spot on heavy rain will likely lose your signal. It does not have to be local, anywhere in the path from satellite to dish can cause issues as can wet snow on dish face or lnb.
Just like as in a microwave oven water absorbs microwave energy very well.
My dish is only about 6ft from the ground. MK1 broom solves the snow issue.
March 2, 2021 at 6:51 pm #103553Anonymous
InactiveSignal is good. 100/100 on both inputs. It was difficult to achieve that, but very careful alignment did it. The new dish is deliberately lower than the original since I am too old to work off a big ladder now.
March 2, 2021 at 6:58 pm #103554grahamlthompson
Participanthairless – 3 mins ago »
Signal is good. 100/100 on both inputs. It was difficult to achieve that, but very careful alignment did it. The new dish is deliberately lower than the original since I am too old to work off a big ladder now.
Good job

No need to have dishes high. Many can ground mount them provided you have a clear view to 28.2E. I have seen sky mini dishes under an upturned plastic dustbin or in a plastic glazed greenhouse.
You will find it a lot easier if you have to do it again.
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