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Many thanks gents. I have the latest Humax update as recomended.
I think the problem may be with my home network, it is very secure as it is set up for my cad sessions.
I will try to find the latest patch as suggested, and will try to connect to an old laptop outside the home network. Perhaps direct
peer to peer might work.
Unfortunately the humax is not easily moveable, being wired into a media centre.
Will post an update when I have tried the above.
Bill
Well I have now tried everything.
samba has installed, and most of the other paks.
Have a problem with webif 2.7 which wont install.
Need to find 2.4 apptly.
I used a laptop, networked thru the switch, changed the IPs to avoid conflicts.
No contact with HUmax, can’t even ping it now.
Looks Like I will just have to give up for now.
Thanks for your help.
Bill
Bill,
This should work – something is going awry along the line, but it sounds like the effort is exceeding the expected benefit.
Not being able to ping the PVR is fundamental. I assume you were able to do this before you changed the IPs. If so, then recheck the addresses and masks on the two machines you are using.
On a single LAN, (the most common set up) the two machines must have unique host addresses on the subnet in use on the LAN. If properly setup and connected, both machine’s ARP cache will acquire the other machine MAC (after a ping by number (or any other contact)), even if the target hasn’t appeared to respond to ping.
Dino
Bill,
there are clearly network problems and most likely routing problems on the laptop.
It would help if you could describe exactly how the hdr and laptop are connected together, also OS version, i.e. are you using a dongle or wifi on your laptop for internet and using the network socket to connect via the switch/hub.
Regardless, it makes sense to manually give the hdr and laptop sensible ip adresses:
hdr ip 192.168.1.3
subnet 255.255.255.0
dns/gateway 192.168.1.1
laptop ip 192.168.1.2
subnet 255.255.255.0
dns/gateway 192.168.1.1
connect both using one of: cross-over cable, old modem/router or similar, hub, or switch however if managed check settings for ports.
You should now be able to ping the hdr from the laptop
If you can’t then from a dos window on your laptop run the following:
ipconfig /all
ping 192.168.1.3
arp -a
Hi gents,
again thanks, Having left it alone for a few days, I can face having a new crack at it.
So:
The laptop is connected with a network cable to a std 100mps switch.
As is the HDR. I Run XP64 on all my systems.
I will assign the IP’s as suggested and get back to you when I can with the Ping results.
regards
Bill.
There is no internet connection to the laptop.
HI Gents.
Tried all the advice and had my network Wiz round to help.
Was unable to ping the HDR on any setup.
Had a look round various forums, there seems to be an opinion that the early HDR’s didn’t have all the hardware actually on board.
If this is the case it would probably apply to mine, as I was a very early user.
Any way, It looks Like I will have to give up on this, Maybe wait till I need an upgraded box.
Thanx for your help regardless
Billy
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It might be worth taking it somewhere with a full internet connection and DHCP server – to see if you get the network connection to DHCP if it gets an IP. Use their network cable rather than yours to make sure.
Hi Bill,
one of your first posts shows clearly from the screenshot that you were pinging your own laptop.
Did you ever get around to setting up the 192.x.x.x network and running the:
ipconfig /all
ping 192.168.1.3
arp -a
commands from the laptop?
The newer boxes don’t have the really useful custom firmware, they are a locked black box, the custom firmware does turn the older boxes into a fantastic product.
Hi All,
Finally success, A new router,and adding incoming connections in the network settings. Also ensure that the network addresss is teh same down to the last 3 digits, which should be different, for me the last digit only is changed, to suit the computers, network no.
I now have access to the humax from the computer, Hurrah, using the cut down browser. I can see some of the other progs, in the etc folder, and can see the files to transfer in/out.
I still can’t install the full interface. I copied the web page for the download to stick, and ran from an outside source. (3 months on BT still haven’t connected me) but the file is not found on the server.
I think this is connected to the file load errors i listed previously, in the original setup on the humax.
Any advice on the location of a working base package file would be helpful to upload onto the box.
Any guidance on where to find data on the next step in managing the files, setup, of prog lists, and loading files onto the box for viewing would be greatly appreciated.
REgards
BH
A bit confused by your last post, though it sounds like progress, I can’t work out what stage you are at.
Assuming you’ve re-flashed with 4.1.2, and are still without Internet access to the HDR, it sounds like you need to go back to the link provided in post #5 and manually download the opk packages you require using a working Internet machine.
Transfer them to a working USB stick, then follow the USB package install instructions. I’m not sure if the install instructions are part of the basic CFW re-flash so I’ll paste them below. You need to look at the USB section at the end. This method is untried by me as I have the HDR on the Internet, but given the solid production values of the custom firmware I can’t see there being a problem. Good luck.
Quote from CFW documentation.
Software Package Installation
Install from Web Interface
This is the simplest way to manage your custom applications on the Foxsat-HDR. Once you have installed the full web interface it’s simply the matter of a few mouse clicks to install/upgrade or uninstall your custom applications directly from your favourite web browser.
The firmware comes with Mongoose 3.0 web server pre-installed. In order to access this server you must first determine the IP address of your Foxsat-HDR from the Foxsat-HDR’s Menu/System/Network screen. (It will look something like 192.168.0.
. Enter this IP address into the address bar of your browser and you should be greeted by the Foxsat-HDR’s initial web page.From there you have the option to install the full web interface from which you can complete your application software installs. A reboot of the Foxsat-HDR will be required to initialise the full web interface once it has installed.
IMPORTANT: Refresh your browser when connecting to the full web interface for the first time, and ensure the address is set to the Foxsat-HDR’s IP address (without any page name appended)
Install from command line
As an alternative, you can install packages from the command line via a telnet session. To do this you must first install the telnet application included in the .rar archive using the USB install method outlined below. Once telnet is installed, ensure you are connected to the internet, then from the command line enter:
‘opkg update’ – This will download the latest list of available packages from the repository.
‘opkg list’ – This will list all available packages.
‘opkg install vsftpd’ – This will install the ‘Very-Secure-FTP-Daemon’ package.
‘opkg remove vsftpd’ – This will remove it again.
Install from USB
The USB port is hot pluggable, so you initiate an install while the Foxsat-HDR is powered up simply by plugging in a USB stick containing one or more .opk package files in the root directory. Once installed, the application will be available for use immediately. No reboot will be initiated, or is necessary. Just wait for the USB stick activity LED to stop (providing it has one). Otherwise just wait a few minutes before unplugging the stick. When the install has completed the *.opk file will have been renamed to *.opk.done and a log file named *.opk.install.log created, for each package on the USB stick.
Just used the USB method to install a couple of packages I hadn’t previously had (dropbear and servermon) to prove it to myself.
Works as expected.
To install the full web interface without a direct internet connection to your HDR you must use some other indirect means to download the nine required packages from the online repository and place these in the folder /opt/tmp.
You can access the repository by pointing a browser at http://www.hummypkg.org.uk/foxsat/
Download packages by clicking on the [Package] link alongside the package name.
Then telnet into the box and execute the following commands in the exact order given.
cd /opt/tmp
opkg install busybox_1.18.4-1_mips.opk
opkg install jim-tcl_0.7.1-1_mips.opk
opkg install hmt_2.3_mips.opk
opkg install sysclock_1.1_mips.opk
opkg install service-manager_2.0_mips.opk
opkg install epg_1.5_mips.opk
opkg install webif_2.75_mips.opk –force-depends
opkg install webif-docs_1.03_mips.opk
opkg install channel-icons_1.07_mips.opk
reboot
Ignore the dependency errors generated when installing webif_2.75_mips.opk as it will install anyway because of the –force-depends option.
You should then be able to access the full web interface.
Don’t forget to refresh your browser cache (Ctrl/F5).
Thanks gents, will try these instructions. The force note is interesting, that seems to cover teh issues I had with the earlier packages. will download fresh anyway.
To be clear, I can now access the box thru the computer, with the cut down browser. I am running 4.12. The change of router alone didn’t do the job, but adding an incoming connection from the box in internet connections solved that.
Well Gents,
Success ####
Many thanks all round. Raydon was (of course correct)using the force command allowed the webif 2.75 pack to install.
This was indeed what had caused the problem all along.
I now have the full interface available.
I can see many of the packs previously loaded by the usb stick method were indeed loaded succesfully.
I have played with the file functions. all seem to work well.
My next challenge will be to try to change the tv listings to my prefered order, then maybe even to try to add the non std sat channel listings. I hope that this will be possible and not totaly beyond my abilities.
Again thanks for all your help. I will try to make some time over the next few weeks to write up the full procedure, for future reference, and add it to this post.
Dib dib dib BH
To set up a network conection with the foxsat HD without an internet connection:
First set up your windows network between your computers.
Use the wizard and choose this computer does not connect to the internet option.
(Frankly if you don’t know how to do this, you will not be able to set up this link)
Once all the computers are linked up, go into the TCP/IP Properties for each, & adjust the IP addresses for each:
Set the first 9 digits as common for all the computers connections 192.154.135.* or similiar
use the last 3 digits to identify your connections, replace * with 1 for the server, 2 for your next most used, 3 for your laptop etc.
Set the subnet mask to be common for all computers: 152.152.152.0 or similiar
If you intend to stream from the HD box ensure all the following protocols are installed:
file & print sharing, reliable multicast protocol,network monitor driver, nwlink(netbios & ipx/spx), & TCP/IP (on some systems you may also need V6)
Once your network is up and running and you have stable connections throughout you can begin hooking up the Foxsat HD.
The first thing you need to do is setup an incoming connection on your server.
Go to the new connection wizard:
Set up an advanced connection:
Accept incoming connection:
com cable between 2 computers:
Allow virtual private connection:
Allow Admins, ASPNET, and yourself access rights:
Click on the TCP properties and set the IP address to the next number:
check allow callers access:
Ensure all the available protocols are checked and install.
http://hummypkg.org.uk/foxsat/base/Packages.gz.
Now download raydon’s Media and File Server Bundle for the Humax FoxsatHDR – Release v4.0.9 (or latest) and follow the instructions included to begin the install to the HDR. You will get a number of errors. As long as the firmware update is applied you can continue to add any updates.
‘Humax Foxsat-HDR Software Details & Release Notes
Application version: HPRSFCI 1.00.21
Loader version: U7.54
Micom version: 7.36
System id: 3768 0000
Update Date: 27 Jul 2012
Release Notes
– Fix for 24 Olympic HD channels recording issue.
Download instructions:
1. Extact the ZIP file downloaded
2. Check the file name is “FOXSAT-HDR_upgrade.hdf” (you will not need to rename the file or change the extension)
3. Connect the USB memory stick to the PC and copy the file to a root folder of the USB.
4. Place the product into standby mode (using the STANDBY button on the remote control or the STANDBY button on the front of the product)
Note: The update will not download correctly if you are currently recording
5. Pull out the USB memory stick and connect the USB to the front panel of FOXSAT-HDR.
6. Press and hold the STANDBY button on the front of the product. The product will now start up and the download process should start, please keep the STANDBY button held in for 30 seconds and then release.
7. When the download is completed the Download progress will display “Success Downloading!”
8. To complete the download:
a. Power off the product using the power switch at the rear.
b. Remove the USB memory stick
c. Power on the product using the power switch at the rear.
d. Switch the product on using the Standby button on the remote or the Standby button
on the front of the product.
Note: If the download does not start then there may be a compatibility issue with the USB memory stick you are using. We recommend using memory sticks of under 1Gb in size.
Please do not power off the product or remove the USB memory stick while the update is in progress.
http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/support/downloadcenter_model_tool.aspx?category_seq=65
Once this has been done clear your usb stick and add the telnet application.
plug the usb into the front socket of the HDR and install the telnet app. check the logfile to ensure it is done.
Now go into your HDR settings and set the Ip address to suit the last number on the network.
Connect your HDr to the network then go to your server and open a telnet session to the HDR.
Ensure that a copy of the OPK(pakages is available on your server)
To install the full web interface without a direct internet connection to your HDR you must use some other indirect means to download the nine required packages from the online repository and place these in the folder /opt/tmp.
You can access the repository by pointing a browser at http://www.hummypkg.org.uk/foxsat/
Download packages by clicking on the [Package] link alongside the package name.
Then telnet into the box and execute the following commands in the exact order given.
cd /opt/tmp
opkg install busybox_1.18.4-1_mips.opk
opkg install jim-tcl_0.7.1-1_mips.opk
opkg install hmt_2.3_mips.opk
opkg install sysclock_1.1_mips.opk
opkg install service-manager_2.0_mips.opk
opkg install epg_1.5_mips.opk
opkg install webif_2.75_mips.opk –force-depends
opkg install webif-docs_1.03_mips.opk
opkg install channel-icons_1.07_mips.opk
reboot
Ignore the dependency errors generated when installing webif_2.75_mips.opk as it will install anyway because of the –force-depends option.
You should then be able to access the full web interface.
Don’t forget to refresh your browser cache (Ctrl/F5).
If you cannot load the web interface now, go back to the TCP/IP configuration and set the incoming connection set up earlier, as an alternate DNS server. This should allow teh connection to work.
Thanks to everyone on this thread for teh inputs
Sorry it took so long to complete the overview.
BH
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