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grahamlthompson – 2 hours ago »
Reffub – 1 hour ago »
“It seems that on my model, you can pre-set the volume level for each individual tv channel, and this is what the Humax remote does.”
Really a new (but slightly useless) feature ! I can see how that would get confusing and cause problems.
The humax remote sets the volume of all SD channels (those that use MP2 audio). In most cases (depending on the capability of whatever is decoding the ac3 audio (the default for HD channels) it has no effect on HD channel audio. If you are using a TV for audio you should turn off surround sound in the box TV setup menu. Turn down your TV volume and now turn up the Humax box volume to near max (this matches the level output by boxes without any way of controlling the audio output level).
Now turn up the TV volume to a reasonable level. Check volume is similar on a HD channel. Lastly select a channel on your TV tuner and compare to the Humax. You can then adjust the box output to be similar.
Thereafter adjust the TV volume only.
This is much easier to handle if you use a remote control like the Harmony ones that allow you to assign the volume to other kit. EG the remote control controls the box for all but the volume functions.
I don’t suppose there is any reason why you felt the need to explain what you get up to with your 1000S volume to me ?
(I’m presuming you thought I needed to know as you chose to quote my post). My post was in reference to the possible new multi channel volume setting feature that the OP mentioned he had found on his 1100s, the “REALLY” and the “!” in my post we’re to signify that I was slightly sceptical. The “slightly useless feature” was for the above and not for the basic Humax volume control feature.
Anyway you’ll be pleased to know I already have a Hamony remote, a Harmony One in fact, rather old now but still in good working order.
Reffub – 24 minutes ago »
grahamlthompson – 2 hours ago »
Reffub – 1 hour ago »
“It seems that on my model, you can pre-set the volume level for each individual tv channel, and this is what the Humax remote does.”
Really a new (but slightly useless) feature ! I can see how that would get confusing and cause problems.
The humax remote sets the volume of all SD channels (those that use MP2 audio). In most cases (depending on the capability of whatever is decoding the ac3 audio (the default for HD channels) it has no effect on HD channel audio. If you are using a TV for audio you should turn off surround sound in the box TV setup menu. Turn down your TV volume and now turn up the Humax box volume to near max (this matches the level output by boxes without any way of controlling the audio output level).
Now turn up the TV volume to a reasonable level. Check volume is similar on a HD channel. Lastly select a channel on your TV tuner and compare to the Humax. You can then adjust the box output to be similar.
Thereafter adjust the TV volume only.
This is much easier to handle if you use a remote control like the Harmony ones that allow you to assign the volume to other kit. EG the remote control controls the box for all but the volume functions.
I don’t suppose there is any reason why you felt the need to explain what you get up to with your 1000S volume to me ?
(I’m presuming you thought I needed to know as you chose to quote my post).My post was in reference to the possible new multi channel volume setting feature that the OP mentioned he had found on his 1100s, the “REALLY” and the “!” in my post we’re to signify that I was slightly sceptical. The “slightly useless feature” was for the above and not for the basic Humax volume control feature.
Anyway you’ll be pleased to know I already have a Hamony remote, a Harmony One in fact, rather old now but still in good working order.
The 1000S, 1010s and 1100S have identical User Interfaces and software.
My post is relevant to any of them. There is no channel specific volume setting on any of them, just a difference in how external kit handles the two possible digital audio output formats.
1 LPCM stereo derived from SD channels broadcast mpeg 1 layer 2 audio. lpcm is universally supported.
2 Dolby Digital (aka AC3) in stereo (2.0) or in 5.1 surround. To properly work with this the kit decoding it needs a proper ac3 decoder. This is the reason that HD channels have a fixed volume in most cases (The volume control works on HD channels using my Yamaha AV reciever).
Changing the digital audio out in Settings – Picture and Sound to Stereo forces the box to recode ac3 to 2.0 lpcm to match SD channel output.
If this is understood it should be clear why we get all the posts about different volume levels.
Seems you aren’t interested in how it all works.
grahamlthompson – 44 minutes ago »
Seems you aren’t interested in how it all works.
I know how it works, but feel free to share you’re vast knowledge by directly typing it into the reply box below. Or better still quote one of the OP’s posts and inform him that he is incorrect in his assumptions of what caused his volume problem and what fixed it.
Reffub – 23 minutes ago »
grahamlthompson – 44 minutes ago »
Seems you aren’t interested in how it all works.
I know how it works, but feel free to share you’re vast knowledge by directly typing it into the reply box below. Or better still quote one of the OP’s posts and inform him that he is incorrect in his assumptions of what caused his volume problem and what fixed it.
Simple question, if you know how it works why didn’t YOU post the information. I was pointing out that the 1100S is no different to the other boxes.
The root of this Graham is you “quoted” the wrong poster.
grahamlthompson – 27 minutes ago »
Reffub – 23 minutes ago »
grahamlthompson – 44 minutes ago »
Seems you aren’t interested in how it all works.
I know how it works, but feel free to share you’re vast knowledge by directly typing it into the reply box below. Or better still quote one of the OP’s posts and inform him that he is incorrect in his assumptions of what caused his volume problem and what fixed it.
Simple question, if you know how it works why didn’t YOU post the information. I was pointing out that the 1100S is no different to the other boxes.
But they are different, the 1000s has a annoying scrolling display, I think the 1100s possibly has some sort of programming to light up a rudimentary LED colour code. (Explain that in greater detail if you so wish)
I was referring to the HD and SD channel sound difference, yes I know the difference, there wasn’t any need to explain that to the OP as his box audio was set to ‘Stereo’ (see the first post). And I’m not a 1100s owner so I was sceptical of the volume control being different but I wasn’t about to tell the OP he was incorrect and it seems neither were you !
Pollensa1946 – 18 minutes ago »
The root of this Graham is you “quoted” the wrong poster.
I think Graham just choices to quote at random if it gives him an excuse for one of his trademark posts.
Pollensa1946 – 1 hour ago »
The root of this Graham is you “quoted” the wrong poster.
That’s arguable, on reflection I should have explained to the OP how the audio setup on all Humax modern pvrs work (including the freeview HD ones) and seperately responded to the very unhelpful post to a clearly new and slightly confused owner, especially as he professes to completely understand the issue. I have to ask again if he knew why did he not explain to the OP ?
Reffub – 1 hour ago »
grahamlthompson – 27 minutes ago »
Reffub – 23 minutes ago »
grahamlthompson – 44 minutes ago »
Seems you aren’t interested in how it all works.
I know how it works, but feel free to share you’re vast knowledge by directly typing it into the reply box below. Or better still quote one of the OP’s posts and inform him that he is incorrect in his assumptions of what caused his volume problem and what fixed it.
Simple question, if you know how it works why didn’t YOU post the information. I was pointing out that the 1100S is no different to the other boxes.
But they are different, the 1000s has a annoying scrolling display, I think the 1100s possibly has some sort of programming to light up a rudimentary LED colour code. (Explain that in greater detail if you so wish)
I was referring to the HD and SD channel sound difference, yes I know the difference, there wasn’t any need to explain that to the OP as his box audio was set to ‘Stereo’ (see the first post). And I’m not a 1100s owner so I was sceptical of the volume control being different but I wasn’t about to tell the OP he was incorrect and it seems neither were you !
They are minor hardware differences, the software is the same as is the user interface. Clearly the standard software knows which box it is installed on and runs different code subroutines to cater for the lack of a display and a scart output on the newer box. The fact is that the software and menus and the user interface is identical.
grahamlthompson – 13 hours ago »
Pollensa1946 – 1 hour ago »
The root of this Graham is you “quoted” the wrong poster.
That’s arguable, on reflection I should have explained to the OP how the audio setup on all Humax modern pvrs work (including the freeview HD ones) and seperately responded to the very unhelpful post to a clearly new and slightly confused owner, especially as he professes to completely understand the issue. I have to ask again if he knew why did he not explain to the OP ?
From reading Ian’s post #9 I personally didn’t think that he sounded confused and as he had solved his issue, there wasn’t any need to be helpful. Pollensa questioned the software/UI difference and his ‘fix’ etc which was fair enough.
If anyone seemed confused I’d say it was you Graham, quoting my one short sentence (@#10) and going on about HD/SD channel volume levels and programmable remotes.
And you obviously missed the fact that the OP stated they had made sure the box audio was set to stereo in his very first post which should answer your last question above.
To save you any further confusion I’ve had HUMAX Freesat PVR since late 2008, I bought a 1000s when the were launched too, both have upgrade HDD’s. Universal Octo lnb on standard dish installed by myself, 100% quality and strength on pretty much all the channels available. Both boxes have audio set to multichannel and linked to my AV receiver by optical, I could have the 1000s linked by HDMI but then I’d have to enable pass through and leave it in standby wasting power if just using the TV speakers. The TV also has a Freesat tuner and that is also linked to my amp by optical cable as I’ve found ARC and the Amps HDMI control rather hit and miss. All this and my other AV kit is controlled by a programmed Harmony One, everything turns on or off switches AV/audio and mutes or un-mutes when necessary depending on what I’m watching. I also like my films and LFE so I have a solid oak twin 15″ subwoofer powered by a 6000 watt peak amplifier with DSP control. (The DSP is manually set to the room using a high quality microphone and a computer program)
If I need your extensive AV or NG knowledge in the future I will of course ask for it and I look forward to reading all your replies to unhelpful posts in the future.
I have just upgraded to a HDR 1100S. Everything is fine EXCEPT, sound levels.
I have noticed that in the TV programme list It runs, BBC1 BBC2 HD ITV3 CH4 CH5 HD. when you change from say BBC1 down to BBC2 HD, the sound on the latter is deafening, as it is also on the CH5 HD.
My question is, can I delete BBC2 HD and CH5 HD then replace them with the standard channels. I can’t work out how to do it!
I look forward to your advice.
Jonty51
You don’t need to. Just change the digital audio out in the Humax TV setup menu to stereo. Turn down the TV volume, turn up the box volume using it’s remote to near max, turn up the TV volume to a level approx the same as the TV tuner gives you. In future use TV volume to control levels. Now when you switch from HD to SD the volume should be pretty well the same.
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