rmwd – 29 minutes ago  » 

grahamlthompson – 2 hours ago  » 

While not designed for this purpose the linked adaptors here use the cec control connectors to transmit ir control signals. They thus effectively when set to ir transmit disable cec control signals. A pair of these and your original el cheapo hdmi cable may well fix the problem.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cablesson-Injector-Remote-Control-Extender/dp/B005KLROCG

Graham,

thank you, though I must admit I don’t really understand what these do in spite of reading the info on the amazon link. The CEC(Regza link) on my tobisha can be and is off already. Though off or on the humax isn’t seen when turning on the TV while the hmax is on.

I read that the June update changed the CEC link from one that uses hard addresses for peripherals to virtual addresses. Has this caused the problem? I don’t understand why when the humax is recognised and a live picture is being received the TV still puts up a No signal dialogue.

The gizmos I linked to solved a similar problem to yours for a poster. If the connections in a hdmi cable normally used for cec control are interrupted then there can’t be any interaction. To the TV and the PVR it appears neither has cec support.

CEC on paper sounds good but it’s not clever enough.

I recently set up a system for my daughter using a Yamaha Home Cinema system and a Panasonic TV. One of the inputs to the AV amplifier is a HDR FOX T2. Like all such Freeview units to listen to radio you only need the TV on to select the desired radio channel as the audio comes through the speakers not the poor quality TV speakers. Choose the radio channel and then turn off the TV, result the amp powers off as well

Turned of CEC on Amp and TV, no problem. How hard is it to press a source button on the TV ?

rmwd – 1 hour ago  » 

-gonzo- – 5 hours ago  » 

rmwd – 3 minutes ago  » 

I am loathe to buy one having spent £70 on a cable which made no difference! Might try and borrow one.

£70 😯 someone saw you coming, there’s never ever a need to spend that much on a HDMI cable.

Granted you never want to go too cheap as build quality may be questionable, but £70 is an insane amount to spend.

I agree a ridiculous amount of money for a cable, but I was in no position to know whether or not it was the cable. I know now it wasn’t, but Currys don’t do refunds.

That can’t be right surely? Is the packaging damaged in any way?

You have changed your mind?

If you change your mind and would like to return your product, we’re happy to exchange or refund it as long as:

The product is in its original unopened and sealed packaging

You return it within 21 days of date of purchase

You have proof of purchase (Original receipt, delivery note, bank statement)

rmwd – 3 minutes ago  » 

Gonzo thanks,

I have all the packaging and receipt. I will take it back tomorrow.

Cheers

As long as its intact, just deny you’ve ever opened it. Just tell em the wife went mental or something

rmwd – 2 hours ago  » 

-gonzo- – 21 hours ago  » 

rmwd – 3 minutes ago  » 

Gonzo thanks,

I have all the packaging and receipt. I will take it back tomorrow.

Cheers

As long as its intact, just deny you’ve ever opened it. Just tell em the wife went mental or something

Gonzo,

thanks again. Currys took the hdmi lead back no problem.

And I found another solution to my problem.

A friend gave me a cheap 2to 1 splitter lead to put between the humax and the TV.

Now the humax behaves just as it used to before the upgrade.

Cheers

Bugger missed my chance – I would have paid good money for a list of people who have made similar purchases from them.

groovyoldwoman – 3 hours ago  » 

Hello folks – first time poster here. I found you because suddenly my tv remote was working the humax box and vice versa and I was having problems getting the box to work. I was having to switch it off at the wall and start again. This thread has been quite useful, as I’m not going to investigate my sony bravia programmes to see if I can switch off the linked hdmi.

I called freesat and they told me that the last update had linked all my hdmi things together but I would have to unlink it through my tv. Not hugely helpful, and the guy did try to blind me with science about it. Probably because he could tell I was a bit of a technophobe – I just want to watch the telly and record a few programmes!

Anyway like I said to read things on here has helped because now I know it’s not a ‘fault’ with the box and I can either put up with it and hope they put it right next time, or try and unhook the hdmi link thing with the TV.

So thanks everyone!

Welcome to the forum. Here’s the procedure for my Sony Bravia TV

HOME, scroll left to Settings, Scroll Down to Set-Up and press centre button (OK)

Scroll down to HDMI set-up and press right

Set Control for HDMI to off

<<Thanks Faust but you loose HD. I have solved the problem by using a cheap hdmi splitter between the humax and the tv. It makes the tv think that it has a non CeC device so the humax behaves like it did pre update.>>

Thanks for this, very helpful! I have been frustrated by being unable to use the HDMI connection if I go to turn on the box while it is recording. It wasn’t happening until recently but now it seems to happen every time. Having read the above I tried some careful testing. I have a Sony TV from 2008. If I turn the Sony TV completely off and turn on the Humax Freesat box first, then turn on the Sony TV, EVERY TIME the HDMI fails to work. Nothing can be done without turning off the Humax box.

So my conclusion is that the HDCP HDMI handshake, or at least something detecting whether a live TV is plugged in, happens when the box is turned on, and not when the TV is turned on. This includes when the box comes on to start recording something. When recording something even turning off the box does not help – I need to power down the box by unplugging it, which of course stops the recording.

I seem to have fixed the problem by inserting an HDMI switch between the TV and the Humax box, together with a second HDMI cable.

– testing this when I turn off the TV, then turn on the Humax box, then turn on the TV, it seems to work OK.

Thanks to all in this thread for the hints. I will now report this to Humax.