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  • #32798
    Martin Liddle
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    NickRich – 5 minutes ago  » 

    If accurate recording will adjust for any re-scheduling of a programme (eg previous prog over-runs), I don’t need padding at all do I?

    With the box mistuned as it is currently then padding will be more reliable than accurate recording. If you choose to sort out the tuning issues then you should find that accurate recordings works well; not completely infallible but significantly better than padding.

    #32799
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    ‘Accurate’ recording was one of the reasons for my purchase as it uses an event controller based on the programme playout. It’s also what a box needs to get the Freeview + tag.

    Some of the commercial channels implement this poorly, but I’ve had no BBC recording errors since I bought the box in February.

    #32800
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Martin / Martyn: Seems best to sort out the tuning and go with accurate recording then.

    But, for instance, recently the BBC chose to stay with a late running Wimbledon match, but then switched it to a different channel and delayed the programme I wanted to record by an hour. Could accurate recording cope with this? The Guide did not show any of these changes, so I abandoned my scheduled recording and recorded non-existent programmes per the Guide. It worked, sort of!

    Thanks to you both for the advice.

    #32801
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Accurate Recording is rarely resistant to the stupidity of the programme schedulers when they choose to do this. I was in a similar position last weekend except it was the F1 and MotoGP coverage I wanted to catch. My way of dealing with this was to set hammock timers for BBC1 HD, BBC HD, BBC2, Freeview 301 and the Freesat Red Button streams 3 and 4 (using all three of my PVRs).

    #32802
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I have watched the EPG change with events at times I knew to be fraught, and your recording should have worked with ‘accurate’ recording as a Freeview+ recorder goes for the event – not the published times. This does however assume the broadcaster is using the system correctly – the BBC usually do, but Wimbledon is probably the toughest test.

    I don’t know how often the Humax box refreshes the displayed guide – there is a possibility the guide is frozen when you are looking at it. So you wouldn’t have seen a change, even if one was transmitted.

    #32803
    grahamlthompson
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    I don’t know how often the Humax box refreshes the displayed guide – there is a possibility the guide is frozen when you are looking at it. So you wouldn’t have seen a change, even if one was transmitted.

    The guide is constantly updated by data transmitted along with the channel you are watching (Freesat does the same). The entire epg is in effect a round robin of data so it may take a little time for a schedule change to hit your epg. Programme overruns where recording is already in progress shouldn’t need the epg to change, all it needs is the broadcaster to delay the change of running status to the appropriate time. If your box isn’t set to AR then of course it won’t be looking for this data. Do a factory reset and immediately call up the epg. You can see the process in action.

    #32804
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    grahamlthompson – 1 hour ago  » Programme overruns where recording is already in progress shouldn’t need the epg to change, all it needs is the broadcaster to delay the change of running status to the appropriate time

    But as we all know this can be very hit and miss. Which is why for live sports coverage I prefer to make a backup recording on my Topfield PVR which is able to take advantage of both the Accurate Recording mechanism and of extensive post-padding.

    With the ubiquity of on-line catch up services this is not as essential for non-live programmes as the start or end of these can be watched that way.

    #32805
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I’ve now followed the instructions to do manual tuning, set up the power on / off timer and set padding to off. Thanks for all the guidance on how to do this.

    A couple more questions if I may:

    1. I take it switching padding off automatically switches accurate recording on? I can’t see how to do this otherwise.

    2. On my previous box I was frequently prompted to do a re-tune because new channels had been found. This hasn’t happened since I’ve had the Humax. Does it? If so, presumably an auto-tune should be avoided? Do you have to repeat the manual tuning procedure?

    #32806
    Martin Liddle
    Participant

    NickRich – 6 minutes ago  » 

    1. I take it switching padding off automatically switches accurate recording on?

    Correct.

    2. On my previous box I was frequently prompted to do a re-tune because new channels had been found. This hasn’t happened since I’ve had the Humax. Does it? If so, presumably an auto-tune should be avoided? Do you have to repeat the manual tuning procedure?

    It will prompt from time to time, but in my experience not as frequently as the TV. Irritatingly with the latest software versions if you are not around when it prompts it will go ahead and do the auto tune. You will then need to repeat the manual tune but having done it once it is pretty quick subsequently. Another irritation is that any sort of retuning will delete the schedule of future recordings; this can be worked around by installing the custom firmware.

    #32807
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    Martin omitted your other query.

    Yes turning off Auto Padding turns on AR.

    Set a test recording for say 30 minutes ahead. Put the box in sby. About 15 mins before the recording is due the box will come to life. It’s fully booted just no video/audio output. If you press the on button in this condition you get an instant boot.

    #32808
    Martin Liddle
    Participant

    grahamlthompson – 55 minutes ago  » 

    Martin omitted your other query.

    ?????

    #32809
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    Martin Liddle – 7 minutes ago  » 

    grahamlthompson – 55 minutes ago  » 

    Martin omitted your other query.

    ?????

    Sorry missed the correct :-)

    #32810
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    Quote:
    this can be worked around by installing the custom firmware.

    Could you explain? What custom firmware?

    #32811
    Martin Liddle
    Participant

    NickRich – 3 minutes ago  » 

    Quote:
    this can be worked around by installing the custom firmware.

    What custom firmware?

    You might care to have a look at the hummy.tv forum and wiki.

    #32812
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Wow, another wealth of information. Thanks. Never realised life with a PVR could be so complicated!

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