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Faust – 12 hours ago »
Sounds like this modern tech is a bit beyond you. Get rid and go back to VHS.
Faust I’m surprised the ‘unhelpful post’ police haven’t paid you a visit
The Foxsat HDR certainly does have its faults but unlike the 1000s it does have a file manager so users can sort their recordings, make new folders, rename, move, delete etc. Also it has many other features that I personally have found quite useful. Bookmarking, slow motion, easily extend the length of an instant recording (I hate it when you press record and don’t get the end of the program, (as under those circumstances accurate record doesn’t work). Genre search for films etc. (Not just a basic useless channel genre search like the 1000s has) Pause button also resumes playback like it does on all the other quality AV kit I’ve ever had.
If nothing else Freesat could of easily improved on the Foxsats HDR’s Last Channel button but no they decided “modern tech” doesn’t need that feature either. Actually I think our new washing machine has more interesting features than the 1000s.
I was focused on the satellite based PVR features rather than the online stuff, if online TV, etc is more important then I’m sure there are other and possibly better alternatives to Freesat.
Freesat were obviously more concerned with getting all the On Demand stuff working well with their G2 boxes made by ‘different’ box manufacturers !!
Well said Reffub. The only reason the Humax Freesat boxes are the only game in town is …hmmm… they are the only game in town. Freesat clearly believed that they could program a PVR and Humax stumbled into that business model. Interesting that every other mfg-er backed off. The Digital TV Consortium were I believe given the opportunity to pick up the Freesat/Freetime s/w for use on FVP (it had after all been 2 years in debug and was in use on various TVs) but no, they also believed they could program a PVR (how hard can it be, as our ex-PM said). Look how well that turned out.
Reffub, at the end of the day the G2 boxes are what they are and you yourself said “it sucks” and if you could you would get rid.
Therefore further discussion clearly isn’t going to change your mind or the minds of Humax/Freesat. I have a 2000T which still uses the folder methods and whilst okay, on balance I prefer the G2 box. I also love the ‘clicky’ remotes which are are used with both the G2 and the 2000T boxes.
Sometimes going forward isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.
Faust – 20 minutes ago »
Reffub, at the end of the day the G2 boxes are what they are and you yourself said “it sucks” and if you could you would get rid.
Therefore further discussion clearly isn’t going to change your mind or the minds of Humax/Freesat. I have a 2000T which still uses the folder methods and whilst okay, on balance I prefer the G2 box. I also love the ‘clicky’ remotes which are are used with both the G2 and the 2000T boxes.
Sometimes going forward isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.
Actually I didn’t say “it sucks” or anything even close to that and I didn’t say I would get rid of my box if I could. I think you’ve got confused with mj11london where he mentioned selling it to some sucker. Lots of confusion on this site lately !
Just for the record I didn’t mention the ‘clicky’ remote either. 😉
To paraphrase myself I was very disappointed with G2 when I got it but I’ve got used to it after a few years. I’m still disappointed with G2 and their current “business model” (as Pollensa put it) and I don’t mind agreeing with others that are also unimpressed with G2.
I can of course agree with your last comment.
I can only apologise for getting my quotes mixed up. Serves me right for using a smartphone when replying.
Just got an email from Humax ref the new H3…
http://www.humaxdirect.co.uk/smart-home/humax-h3.html
Looks OK, but since it can stream recordings from the FVP4000 and still no such facility on the Freesat boxes it places those even more into the backwoods of the distributed home. No sale here. Freesat need to seriously up their game rather than simply acting as a backstop for those viewers that cannot get the full spectrum of Freeview TV or unhappy Sky customers.
Pollensa1946 – 1 hour ago »
Just got an email from Humax ref the new H3…
http://www.humaxdirect.co.uk/smart-home/humax-h3.html
Looks OK, but since it can stream recordings from the FVP4000 and still no such facility on the Freesat boxes it places those even more into the backwoods of the distributed home. No sale here. Freesat need to seriously up their game rather than simply acting as a backstop for those viewers that cannot get the full spectrum of Freeview TV or unhappy Sky customers.
Is Freesat the issue or those broadcasters that are behind Freesat? Perceived wisdom has always maintained that the Freesat platform has by far the best potential and yet appears to have been ‘hobbled’ for reasons of politics I would suggest.
Faust – 1 hour ago »
I can only apologise for getting my quotes mixed up. Serves me right for using a smartphone when replying.
No problemo
Faust – 5 minutes ago »
Is Freesat the issue or those broadcasters that are behind Freesat? Perceived wisdom has always maintained that the Freesat platform has by far the best potential and yet appears to have been ‘hobbled’ for reasons of politics I would suggest.
I always thought Humax were the issue regarding the streaming of recordings.
When the box was first launched in Oct 2012 the Humax website said that a client/server function would be added later. The server never happened for reasons that Humax chose never to reveal. Whether it was ruled out by Freesat or Humax weren’t up to it who knows.
Reffub – 3 hours ago »
Faust – 5 minutes ago »
Is Freesat the issue or those broadcasters that are behind Freesat? Perceived wisdom has always maintained that the Freesat platform has by far the best potential and yet appears to have been ‘hobbled’ for reasons of politics I would suggest.
I always thought Humax were the issue regarding the streaming of recordings.
It’s not Humax, they build the boxes the UI and DRM restrictions are down to Freesat.
The Freeview+ boxes are much less restricted especially the HDR-FOX-T2.
Take a look at the features that German users can enjoy using the icord satellite pvr’s.
grahamlthompson – 17 hours ago »
It’s not Humax, they build the boxes the UI and DRM restrictions are down to Freesat.
The Freeview+ boxes are much less restricted especially the HDR-FOX-T2.
Take a look at the features that German users can enjoy using the icord satellite pvr’s.
Can we really blame it on DRM ?
Apparently Humax built the 1000s with media server hardware and said server functionality would be coming later. Now obviously they knew all about Freesats copyright protection DRM encryption requirements as it put a spanner in the works four years earlier with the Foxsat HDR Buffer recording ! So had they completely forgotten about DRM or had they developed a cunning plan to work around it on a Humax streaming to Humax basis. Whatever the problem was they couldn’t just suddenly blame Freesats DRM restrictions, it not like it was a new thing !
Couldn’t possibly be Humax’s fault so let’s blame Freesat
So Humax/Freesat are almost ready to enable this server but Freesat suddenly decide they can’t be bothered to develop the software UI anymore or maybe they changed their minds and decided that they didn’t want customers being able the stream their HDD content through out their homes. That doesn’t make any sense either, of course Freesat would want their brand new G2 box to stream and be up-to-date and desirable as possible.
My guess is Humax and Freesat had enough problems trying to get the basic Freesat software working with the 1000s hardware and decided it was best to permanently shelve the server function.
Reffub – 1 hour ago » …My guess is Humax and Freesat had enough problems trying to get the basic Freesat software working with the 1000s hardware and decided it was best to permanently shelve the server function.
Probably close to the reality. In 2014 I checked out the published accounts of Freesat which I recall had a 49 Million Pounds deficit. Now these numbers rarely tell the complete picture, they could have for example paid large fees to their owners BBC and ITV in that particular year. Shortly after the MD departed to be replaced by an Accountant. From that point on the focus changed from technology leadership to bringing on board new (rubbish) channels and (largely rubbish) paid-for services. This might have cleared up the accounts in the short term but will not pull in viewers in the longer term with new developments in the connected/distributed home happening every day (Sky Q for example).
49 million pounds deficit, that’s taking non-profit to the extreme.
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