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November 15, 2017 at 12:28 pm #81491
grahamlthompson
ParticipantBlackGhost – 2 hours ago »
grahamlthompson – 4 days ago »
Norrette – 13 hours ago »
A new potential bug perhaps…
I tried to set record on a program for 1 am-ish tonight on Beeb4 – I was offered the HD option which I took, as it was an art program. It just kept coming back to ‘set record or remind’ option rather than confirm the recording as set. After about 5 mins I gave up and went back to the EPG and hey presto it is now showing set to record.
I switched on this evening at about 5:40 After a few minutes I tried to switch to BBC1 (the box was still on beeb4 from last night)via the EPG. It refused to show the current program as ‘live’ (Pointless) and eventually I had to change programs via the channel up and down arrows on the handset. I thought it might be a warming up issue.
However, it’s just now happened again with a program on at 8pm. The thing in common with all of theses issues is that they were each part of a series.
Is there a place where we should be tracking potential bugs to allow Humax to consider for their next release? Clearly those experience beta testers can attempt to replicate before confirming the bug status? And a wish list? It’s all in support of an improved system.
You can change the channel epg viewed data when in the epg by simply tapping in the channel number. eg 101 jumps to BBC1-HD at the currently viewed time and date.
This works on every Humax pvr I have ever used.
When you switched on was this the first time the box was booted on that day. If so the epg takes about 5 mins or so before it gets fully populated. If you are quick you can see it happening. Subsequent boots don’t have the issue.
I have a power on timer set to populate the epg.
Time 07:00
Channel 101 BBC One HD
Volume 10
Repeat Daily
and a matching power off at 07:15
I’m surprised this works – it’s not how my 4000 populates the epg. I can have it on for hours and the epg is still only partially populated. I’ve also seen a programme shown in the epg, come out of the guide and gone back in a few minutes later and it’s lost it, showing ‘no programme information’. This is normally when someone says to try a manual tune, which makes no difference.
That suggests you have multiple transmitters stored on your box.
Do you have epg entries with channel numbers over 800 ?
You need to identify your local transmitter, make a note of the UHF channels it uses for it’s MUX. Check that you haven’t got channels in your epg that use a different UHF channel to the ones you have listed.
November 15, 2017 at 2:21 pm #81492Anonymous
InactiveBlackGhost – 3 hours ago »
This is normally when someone says to try a manual tune, which makes no difference.
May be because your symptoms described here and on some of your previous posts are exactly what being tuned to more than 1 transmitter can produce.
There are a number of ways for using manual tuning to tune and some can make the situation worse.
Also while having channels in the 800 range does indicate that manual tuning did not work, not having channels in the 800 range does NOT indicate that it did work.
You’ve previously stated that you cleared the channels and actioned a manual retune for just 1 transmitter, which presumably was Wenvoe, which even with an attenuator you still receive at 100% strength and quality.
What I can’t see is the detail for how you went about your manual retuning.
For instance, how did you clear the channels that were already tuned?
When you manually tuned what was the Network option set to on the screen? (Having the Network option set incorrectly can slow down the process but for many if the option is set inappropriately the manual tuning will not achieve the desired result.)
Did you try anything else between clearing the channels and manual tuning? (Some have reported trying something else in between.)
What do you personally mean by manually tuning and selecting just 1 transmitter? (Some have reported doing something that was very different to what others mean by manual tuning.)
After retuning have you checked that your manual tuning was as expected by checking a channel from each multiplex to verify that its UHF channel matches one from Wenvoe? Because of change to the d-book for teh FVP-5000T you may also have to check a local and non-local channel for BBC A, BBC B and D3&4.
November 15, 2017 at 4:47 pm #81493Anonymous
InactiveLuke – 2 hours ago »
BlackGhost – 3 hours ago »
This is normally when someone says to try a manual tune, which makes no difference.
May be because your symptoms described here and on some of your previous posts are exactly what being tuned to more than 1 transmitter can produce.
There are a number of ways for using manual tuning to tune and some can make the situation worse.
Also while having channels in the 800 range does indicate that manual tuning did not work, not having channels in the 800 range does NOT indicate that it did work.
You’ve previously stated that you cleared the channels and actioned a manual retune for just 1 transmitter, which presumably was Wenvoe, which even with an attenuator you still receive at 100% strength and quality.
What I can’t see is the detail for how you went about your manual retuning.
For instance, how did you clear the channels that were already tuned?
When you manually tuned what was the Network option set to on the screen? (Having the Network option set incorrectly can slow down the process but for many if the option is set inappropriately the manual tuning will not achieve the desired result.)
Did you try anything else between clearing the channels and manual tuning? (Some have reported trying something else in between.)
What do you personally mean by manually tuning and selecting just 1 transmitter? (Some have reported doing something that was very different to what others mean by manual tuning.)
After retuning have you checked that your manual tuning was as expected by checking a channel from each multiplex to verify that its UHF channel matches one from Wenvoe? Because of change to the d-book for teh FVP-5000T you may also have to check a local and non-local channel for BBC A, BBC B and D3&4.
Hi, yes I cleared the channels and did it with instructions I found somewhere on here. I could try again but I’m not sure it’s going to be worth it – doing all the deleting, manual tuning etc and adding in all the schedules takes a fair bit of time each time a rescan is needed and it’s a real hassle. I would have thought using the new autotune which at least keeps the schedule in place and having the EPG issues may be the easier of the two options (and I did try the manual tune at least a couple of times but still had the same issue). Cheers.
November 15, 2017 at 6:16 pm #81494Anonymous
InactiveBlackGhost – 1 hour ago »
I did try the manual tune at least a couple of times but still had the same issue …
What did you have the Network Search option set to? Was it set to ‘Yes’ or ‘No’?
And which channel numbers did you use?
November 15, 2017 at 8:48 pm #81495Anonymous
InactiveI’m not sure I remember all the details now as it was a while ago but I followed the suggested steps after asking on here – delete all tv channels, delete all radio channels, start & immediately stop autotune then manual tune etc, not sure about the nw search but I used sd 41,44,42,45,39,51; 47, 31, 37 hd.
Even if it was to work, if it means doing that manual tune and inputting all the schedules again each time a retune is needed it’s just too much hassle and it will be easier to keep using the autotune. Humax support had no knowledge of this issue by the way – they said the unit must be faulty.
November 16, 2017 at 7:34 pm #81496Anonymous
InactiveFaust – 1 month ago »
cobson – 3 hours ago »
I’m confused, if the internal hardware on the FVP5000t and FVP4000t is the same then isn’t the former just a software update for the latter ? Or are there internal hardware changes ?
I was thinking that. This surely is a 4000T in new Sunday clothes. Why couldn’t the 4000T receive the same software update. Call my cynical but this sounds like another way to generate ‘new sales’.
I agree, I have the newer version of the 4000T -dual led and the exact same remote control with the dedicated “Netflix” button and the same colour. Other than some “tweeks” and the 5GHz wifi it is essentially the same model. One feature I’ve always wanted is the ability to set a “series reminder”. There is daily progs that I would like to change automatically- instead I have to manually go over them adding “remind” over 5 days to fill in the full week. It’s D-pad left select day, D-pad right then down to the bottom select “remind” and do that 5 times on the same page. The pop-up mini menu at the bottom of the screen in the 5000T is the same menu on my Humax Freesat HB-1000S. It’s my Fav Freesat model along with my Manhattan Plaza HDR-S with twin tuner.
I honestly wish there was a substantial jump in specs.. ????
November 16, 2017 at 7:55 pm #81497Anonymous
InactiveThe tech specs on Humxdirect gives no hint of any specs that are different.
November 16, 2017 at 8:04 pm #81498Anonymous
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November 16, 2017 at 9:19 pm #81499Anonymous
InactiveWell, my box seems to be switching itself on. It’s difficult to keep track of because when it is switched off and recording and on, the light is identical to when it is switched off and recording.
November 16, 2017 at 9:35 pm #81500grahamlthompson
Participantuk1 – 14 minutes ago »
Well, my box seems to be switching itself on. It’s difficult to keep track of because when it is switched off and recording and on, the light is identical to when it is switched off and recording.
Only way to tell is select the right HDMI input on your TV/AV receiver and see if you get a picture and sound.
We already know that the 5000T has a motherboard identical to the 4000T.
Barru posted a photograph of the internals and a sharp eyed member noticed the motherboard is labelled FVP-4000T. Admitted Barry has a pre-production 5000T but I wouldn’t expect production models to be any different.
There’s another post that confirms both the 4000T and 5000T have dual band WiFi.
As Repassac observes perhaps Humax want to ensure that there are no major issues with new software.
November 16, 2017 at 9:41 pm #81501Anonymous
InactiveThanks Graham, but I’m not understanding your comment. I am finding that I’m switching the box off, selecting a different HDMI input and then finding subsequently that the box has switched itself on. The handset is put somewhere where it can’t be touched.
November 16, 2017 at 9:48 pm #81502grahamlthompson
ParticipantI take it the box has displayed the blue led after recording has finished despite being in sby when recording starts.
You observed correctly there is no way to tell from the purple led if the box is recording in sby or is fully booted.
However if you select the box HDMI input on the TV or AV receiver you can tell. because if it’s recording in sby you see and hear nothing. If fully booted you see the last viewed channel audio and video.
One possibility is the box is booted by another remote, possibly another Humax remote set to use a different code set.
Can you help to test a pet theory.
Try the power on/off timer in this post.
https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/unplug-to-switch-on#post-62066
November 16, 2017 at 10:39 pm #81503Anonymous
InactiveThanks Graham, I have many Hummy’s and they are (mostly) set to dofferent RC channels. The 5000t is switching itself on and off when no remote is being used. I wondered whether they might be cross chatting and have purposefully moved them all off the sofa!
I’ll keep my eye on it for a day or so.
Does your note imply that others have reported this …… I haven’t read all 200 posts!
November 16, 2017 at 10:53 pm #81504grahamlthompson
ParticipantYes seen a post that says a 5000T has booted around 10 mins or so after a recording completed and the box went into sby.
I have observed my 5000T booting when using a Harmony remote controlling totally different kit, but seems now for some reason now not to be affected.
Can you try the power on/off timer as I posted.
November 16, 2017 at 11:06 pm #81505Anonymous
InactiveThanks, I will, but I’m unclear why I’m doing it ie what I’m looking for. Is the suggestion that this might clear it?
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