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Quote:KenDoubleU writes the following………I agree it is a risky strategy: it has very occasionally resulted in a problem where an episode has been partly lost and occasionally completely.
But nevertheless it suits us as being in late 70s it is easier to follow the plot of some convoluted story and remember what it is all about! It is also nice the have a ‘fest’ where you can watch a couple of episodes per day and feel more involved.
I don’t think it’s an issue exclusively because you are both in your 70s. I often wonder what we did before PVRs as the wife and I (a bit younger than you and yours) sometimes watch a programme and both chime up ‘what on earth is going on I’m lost’.
It’s at this point I reach for the rewind button and we have a second and sometimes a third try at understanding the plot.
There are other times when we both say ‘what a bl – – – y waste of electric and give up altogether.
Graham
Thanks for your info. I can relate, as I was CEGB Authorised for switching for some years but left the Electricity Supply Industry in the late 60s and joined BBC Engineering until retirement some 20+ years back.
Frequency monitoring was always used to determine system stability to initiate auto-load shedding
So just have to organise a dual 400kV feed for my 1100S PVR!
regards
Ken
Faust
Well that is refreshing to hear. We also rewind two three time on occasions to follow the plot and to try to follow the dialog.
Too many dramas and documentaries are ruined by indistinct and poor enunciation, or competing music or sound effects.
Ken
KenDoubleU – 38 minutes ago »
Faust
Well that is refreshing to hear. We also rewind two three time on occasions to follow the plot and to try to follow the dialog.
Too many dramas and documentaries are ruined by indistinct and poor enunciation, or competing music or sound effects.
Ken
Hallelujah for subtitles which we tend to use with increasing frequency these days.
Faust – 7 hours ago »
KenDoubleU – 38 minutes ago »
Faust
Well that is refreshing to hear. We also rewind two three time on occasions to follow the plot and to try to follow the dialog.
Too many dramas and documentaries are ruined by indistinct and poor enunciation, or competing music or sound effects.
Ken
Hallelujah for subtitles which we tend to use with increasing frequency these days.
Well I hadn’t thought about subtitles. I assume my old Foxsat records them: will investigate.
Ken
KenDoubleU – 9 hours ago »
Faust – 7 hours ago »
KenDoubleU – 38 minutes ago »
Faust
Well that is refreshing to hear. We also rewind two three time on occasions to follow the plot and to try to follow the dialog.
Too many dramas and documentaries are ruined by indistinct and poor enunciation, or competing music or sound effects.
Ken
Hallelujah for subtitles which we tend to use with increasing frequency these days.
Well I hadn’t thought about subtitles. I assume my old Foxsat records them: will investigate.
Ken
The 1000s is particularly good with subtitles, in fact it’s the best PVR I have ever owned at displaying subtitles, either recorded or live. Our 2000T comes a close second but not as slick as it’s Freesat sibling.
Faust
I will try out the Foxsat this evening and see how it performs with subtitles
Ken
KenDoubleU – 3 hours ago »
Faust
I will try out the Foxsat this evening and see how it performs with subtitles
Ken
I think the Foxsat HDR is pretty good too, it displays the subtitles even if you don’t want it too.
Reffub – 3 minutes ago »
KenDoubleU – 3 hours ago »
Faust
I will try out the Foxsat this evening and see how it performs with subtitles
Ken
I think the Foxsat HDR is pretty good too, it displays the subtitles even if you don’t want it too.
Mine doesn’t. Try turning them on and off again on the channel you have issues with. Pressing Exit twice gets rid as well.
grahamlthompson – 50 minutes ago »
Mine doesn’t. Try turning them on and off again on the channel you have issues with. Pressing Exit twice gets rid as well.
I was just trying to be funny, I guess I failed, but thanks for the advice anyway.
I have found they my Foxsat works fine with the subtitles on the playback of recordings but had never though to use them until Faust suggested it. Certainly useful when you haven’t been able to hear the dialog properly. However it is a bit of a performance to engage and later stop them as I only want subtitles to read a section of dialog I cannot hear properly.
And yes, if you pause live TV you always get subtitles. I just hit the ‘exit’. I can live with that.
Ken
Faust – 1 day ago » I often wonder what we did before PVRs as the wife and I (a bit younger than you and yours) sometimes watch a programme and both chime up ‘what on earth is going on I’m lost’.
It’s at this point I reach for the rewind button and we have a second and sometimes a third try at understanding the plot.
There are other times when we both say ‘what a bl – – – y waste of electric and give up altogether.
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Faust – 22 hours ago »
KenDoubleU – 38 minutes ago »
Faust
Well that is refreshing to hear. We also rewind two three time on occasions to follow the plot and to try to follow the dialog.
Too many dramas and documentaries are ruined by indistinct and poor enunciation, or competing music or sound effects.
Ken
Hallelujah for subtitles which we tend to use with increasing frequency these days.
An additional resource for plot following is the Audio Description sound track.
From something like “Sarah spies on her brother from an upstairs window”, you get to know
(1) her name when it has not been mentioned yet. Good for when her name comes up and you would otherwise wonder who they are referring to;
(2) that she is not just looking out of the window but ‘spying’;
(3) that she knows and is related to the person she is looking at;
none of which may be obvious just by watching the drama.
KenDoubleU – 47 minutes ago »
I have found they my Foxsat works fine with the subtitles on the playback of recordings but had never though to use them until Faust suggested it. Certainly useful when you haven’t been able to hear the dialog properly. However it is a bit of a performance to engage and later stop them as I only want subtitles to read a section of dialog I cannot hear properly.
And yes, if you pause live TV you always get subtitles. I just hit the ‘exit’. I can live with that.
Ken
The solution I posted normally fixes this issue. That is why I posted it. As there is two ways of enabling the subtitles, one auto enabled for all channels, and the other per channel by pressing the SUB button on the remote.
The hypothesis is that the two settings can get out of sync. Toggling the on demand option on/off has always fixed it for me except for one situation.
If you have moved a BBC channel using edit channels, only the exit solution works.
As it’s hardly a real problem. I guess Humax never bothered to find the reason for such an old box.
Interested to know if you try the above on a channel you have timeshifted and get the subtitles you still get subtitles. Also if toggling the overall setting on/off does not fix the issue.
Luke – 9 minutes ago »
Faust – 1 day ago » I often wonder what we did before PVRs as the wife and I (a bit younger than you and yours) sometimes watch a programme and both chime up ‘what on earth is going on I’m lost’.
It’s at this point I reach for the rewind button and we have a second and sometimes a third try at understanding the plot.
There are other times when we both say ‘what a bl – – – y waste of electric and give up altogether.
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Faust – 22 hours ago »
KenDoubleU – 38 minutes ago »
Faust
Well that is refreshing to hear. We also rewind two three time on occasions to follow the plot and to try to follow the dialog.
Too many dramas and documentaries are ruined by indistinct and poor enunciation, or competing music or sound effects.
Ken
Hallelujah for subtitles which we tend to use with increasing frequency these days.
An additional resource for plot following is the Audio Description sound track.
From something like “Sarah spies on her brother from an upstairs window”, you get to know
(1) her name when it has not been mentioned yet. Good for when her name comes up and you would otherwise wonder who they are referring to;
(2) that she is not just looking out of the window but ‘spying’;
(3) that she knows and is related to the person she is looking at;
none of which may be obvious just by watching the drama.
Ha! when I first got my 1000s I must have accidentally pressed the audio description button. The wife and I couldn’t understand why this voice kept piping up telling us what we had just seen. 😯
I kept saying to the wife, this is a dammed funny programme, why do they keep giving us all this information. 🙄
grahamlthompson – 9 hours ago »
I guess Humax never bothered to find the reason for such an old box.
Old 😯
The Foxsat HDR might be old now but it wasn’t when the subtitle bug first appeared or possible it was there from launch, I really can’t remember.
But way back in Aug 2009 you said “It’s on the long list off annoying bugs so hopefully it will be fixed in the next firmware”, you’ve been giving advice on it for over 6 years now.
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