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February 27, 2013 at 5:00 pm #14395
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InactiveHi – Apologies if I am missing something blindingly obvious. I have just bought a digital TV and continue to use my HDR-Fox T2 for recordings. After attaching my aerial connection to the HDR and then on from there to the Digital TV with a scart extension going the same way, I can only get a picture if the HDR box is turned on and I use the HDR handset. If I am just watching the TV and not recording at all can I set it up so that I don’t need the HDR box on so that I can use the features on the new TV and it’s handset? The only way I can get that to work is to take the aerial connection out of the HDR box and put it directly in the back of the digital TV which I wouldn’t want to do regularly.
Thank you in anticipation. Blueboy
February 27, 2013 at 5:05 pm #42532Barry
ModeratorWelcome to the Forum

You need to turn power saving in standby, this will then enable the rf loop thru’ when HDR in standby.
Menu
Settings
System
Power Management
February 27, 2013 at 9:28 pm #42533Martin Liddle
ParticipantBlueboys45 – 4 hours ago »
I have just bought a digital TV and continue to use my HDR-Fox T2 for recordings. After attaching my aerial connection to the HDR and then on from there to the Digital TV with a scart extension going the same way,
In addition to what Barry said, if you have a new TV you should consider using HDMI rather than SCART for the connection from the Humax to the TV; this should give better picture quality.
February 28, 2013 at 6:14 pm #42534Anonymous
InactiveThank you Barry and Martin. I will certainly get and use a HDMI lead for use instead of the scart lead. I’m afraid that that the “Power Management option in standby” change does not work for me. It was originally on “on” and didn’t work. I have changed it to “off” and it doesn’t seem to have any effect. I would be grateful for any other ideas or indeed a gentle push if I have not carried out the change correctly. Regards, Blueboy
February 28, 2013 at 10:57 pm #42535Anonymous
InactiveBlueboys45 – 1 day ago »
Hi – Apologies if I am missing something blindingly obvious. I have just bought a digital TV and continue to use my HDR-Fox T2 for recordings. After attaching my aerial connection to the HDR and then on from there to the Digital TV with a scart extension going the same way, I can only get a picture if the HDR box is turned on and I use the HDR handset.
Do you just have a scart cable connectingthe HDR-Fox T2 to the TV?
You will also need an aerial cable from the HDR-Fox T2’s Antenna Out socket to the TV.
March 12, 2013 at 12:19 am #42536Anonymous
InactiveHmm…. I seem to be having the same problem too I’m using a hdmi cable and it makes no difference if the power saving is on or off I cannot get a picture unless the box is on, it would be nice to be able to help save the life of the box by only using it when I need to record somthing and like Blueboy it’s to much of a pain to keep disconnecting the the box and plugging the antenna lead directly into the tv so any help would be appreciated 😆
March 12, 2013 at 8:46 am #42537Anonymous
InactiveI think I have the same problem/situation.
I have the RF cable connected to RF in of the Humax & a HDMI lead from the Humax to the TV connection.
Can’t get TV picture unless Humax is on, it has no effect if I turn the “Power Saving” to of or on.
March 12, 2013 at 9:00 am #42538Barry
ModeratorJust checked this to ensure nothing has changed in software.
Definitely with cable from rf out to TV with power saving off I get a picture using tv in built tuner, power saving on and it vanishes as expected.
March 12, 2013 at 9:10 am #42539Anonymous
InactiveHave yet to try fixing a RF cable from Humax RF out to the TV.
But if this works there needs to be a change to the User Manual as this connection is not stated as being required, see pages 9/10 of User Manual.
Will try out Barrys suggestion later.
March 12, 2013 at 9:52 am #42540grahamlthompson
ParticipantWithout a coax connection from your aerial to the TV tuners how would you expect to get a unaided picture on your TV ? The tuners need a rf source from your aerial. If you don’t want to turn off power saving fitting a uhf splitter to give the box and TV independent feeds. This will work for pretty well anyone unless your TV signal is just on the margin of being acceptable.
March 12, 2013 at 10:39 am #42541Anonymous
InactiveGraham,
You totally miss the point.
The User Manual, which I & many others refer to, just states a RF lead from the aerial to RF In on the Humax & a HDMI lead from the Humax to the TV.
This is in the “Quick start Guide” written I assume for non Technical persons.
Clearly this is an error in the User Manual
March 12, 2013 at 12:17 pm #42542grahamlthompson
Participantjohnooooo – 1 hour ago  »Â
Graham,
You totally miss the point.
The User Manual, which I & many others refer to, just states a RF lead from the aerial to RF In on the Humax & a HDMI lead from the Humax to the TV.
This is in the “Quick start Guide” written I assume for non Technical persons.
Clearly this is an error in the User Manual
As I explained, the need for a RF connection from the RF out socket to youyr TV depends entirely on the arrangement of your aerial connections to all your kit, something Humax have no knowledge of.
The rf connections could easily be part of a chain including many items of kit. Someone may have a Sky box in the system and say a HDR FOX T2. There are many different ways to connect up different kit.
A Sky box would have to be the last in the chain before the TV as it contains two rf outputs, one for the TV and another to send the Sky box pictures to remote TV’s (and use magic eyes to control the box).
Non technical or not, there can’t be many that don’t realise that to make a TV work as a TV rather than a monitor for other kit, then you have to connect an aerial to it. It doesn’t have to be routed by the HDR FOX T2 at all, hence the power saving option.
I don’t have one from my HDR FOX T2 to my TV, I don’t need one as the aerial to the TV follows a different route. Did you never have a vcr ?
March 12, 2013 at 12:29 pm #42543Anonymous
InactiveGraham,
I will not continue to press the point as it is obvious that you have a blind spot to the design of User Manuals, so I believe have Humax if the Manual for this model is anything to go by.
The “Quick start Guide” should be just that, aiding the many customers who are unaware of connection methods.
By reviewing/correcting the Manual Humax/Dealers/Customers would save a great deal of problems & money.
I rest my case, no more Posts!
March 12, 2013 at 12:55 pm #42544grahamlthompson
Participantjohnooooo – 22 minutes ago  »Â
Graham,
I will not continue to press the point as it is obvious that you have a blind spot to the design of User Manuals, so I believe have Humax if the Manual for this model is anything to go by.
The “Quick start Guide” should be just that, aiding the many customers who are unaware of connection methods.
By reviewing/correcting the Manual Humax/Dealers/Customers would save a great deal of problems & money.
I rest my case, no more Posts!
There are hundreds of posts about lack of rf throughput giving no TV picture. It’s a requirement of EEC law that to reduce sby consumption that a low power sby mode is required (now stands at 0.5W), to do this the rf loop amp is turned off. Not a single post in all these hundreds ever failed to recognise you actually need to connect an aerial to the TV. I rather think that puts you in a very tiny minority.
March 12, 2013 at 6:34 pm #42545aldaweb
ParticipantThe HDR is designed to be ON whilst you are watching TV to allow the use of its time-shifting features hence the need for the RF IN and HDMI leads. In this mode it does not need the RF loop-through so it is not required to be in the manual.
The manual for your TV should state that in order to receive programmes on it’s internal tuner you would need an aerial connection. Therefore if you wish to watch TV from the TV’s internal tuner and lose the benefit of time-shifting you need the RF loop cable.
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